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    In the coming weeks, I plan on gathering more information, and learning from as many valid sources as possible, about this phenomena on the Pakistan side of the durand line. We can also then seguey into a discussion into links to the PDPA, Khalq, Parcham and by extension, Najib (i.e. he of the KHAD)

    In the discussion, I think that is proper to drop the term nationalist from our idiom on PF. The ownership of the term nationalist implies a monoply on the respect for Pashtun autonomy, when in fact, marxist ideologies are an anathema to Pashtunwali in many respects. For the more fitting term shall be the Awami Marxist Party. Though the stability of this term is in question, due to the opportunistic bon voyage given to marxism in the setting of now hanging of the coat tails of a successfull capitalistic super power.

    http://www.pajhwok.com/ps/node/53506

    I plan on posting articles for discussion.

    In general, a quick perusal through the leadership list of the supposed nationalists, from Ajmal Khattak to Afzal Bangash to Kishr Achekzai to Wali Khan himself reveals overt links to two failed ideologies:

    1) Oligarchy
    2) Marxism

    The irony is that these two concepts, theoretically, are antithetical to one another. This feat, of combining two failing ideologies at loggerheads, into one platform is truley fascinating to say the least. Elevating these concepts to the level of near theology is very likely the reason why this party has met with repeated failures and has had to modify its platform. After all, the only utility of designing a bicycle with wheels moving in opposing directions is as an exercise bike... but dont expect the bike to get you anywhere.

    An informative article from someone defended very recently by ANP, after he was likely eliminated by the ISI, is the first in a series of what will be weekly releases:

    A few interesting things I learned from reading Shahzad's article:

    1) Ghaffar Khan did not appear to comment on loy Afghanistan, but instead, agitated for a united India.
    2) Wali Khan sought to invite Russia into the dispute to extend or at least release a sort of Saur revolution in KP.
    3) The other fascinating thing is their opportunism, or in the moment negotiation on key principled demands: "But after the collapse of the USSR and the communist government in Afghanistan, nationalist factions dropped the issue and joined hands with rightwing parties like the Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) for the first time in the history of Pakistan, if only to show that the demand for a Pashtun land had never been indigenous, but always instigated by foreigners."



    'Pashtunistan' issue back to haunt Pakistan
    By Syed Saleem Shahzad

    KARACHI - Faced with the uphill task of curtailing extremist elements in South and Central Asia, such as al-Qaeda and the Taliban, the United States appears to be leaning towards a policy of promoting instability in the region, with the biggest loser in such a game likely to be Pakistan, even though it is Washington's stated premier ally in the "war on terror".

    Reports emerging from Pakistan's North-West Frontier Province (NWFP)and Balochistan suggest a revival of Pashtun nationalist activity over the sensitive issue of the Durand Line, which demarcates the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan, at a time when military operations continue in the Pakistani tribal belt, much to the annoyance of the local tribals towards the Pakistan army and the establishment.

    A coalition of six fundamentalist, pro-Taliban and pro-Osama bin Laden parties under the umbrella of the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) came to power in NWFP in last October's general elections, and the MMA is a part of the ruling coalition in Balochistan.

    Many in the present Afghan government believe that the agreement reached between Afghan king Abdur Rahman Khan and British colonial official Sir Henry Mortimer Durand in 1893 that defined the Durand Line was for 100 years only, and expired in 1993. The Afghans are now asking the US to renegotiate the border, and some Afghan officials have already issued a new map that shows such major Pakistani cities as Peshawar and Quetta in Afghanistan.

    Asia Times Online sources close to Pakistan strategic circles report that there has been recent contact between Afghan leader Hamid Karzai and Pashtun leader Khan Abdul Wali Khan, much to the alarm of the Pakistani hierarchy, which is convinced that the meeting took place at the instigation of the US.

    Khan's Awami National Party, which is traditionally anti-establishment, was wiped out in the last elections. His father, Khan Abdul Ghafar Khan, opposed the partition of British India in 1947, and because of his close association with Mahatma Gandhi he was called Sarhadi Gandhi (NWFP is called Sarhad in Urdu and Hindi). Like his father, Wali Khan has close ties with India and Afghanistan. After the former USSR invaded Afghanistan in the 1980s, Wali Khan coined the concept of "Pashtunistan" and called for a "red revolution" in Pakistan to welcome Soviet forces to help in the unification of Pashtun lands on both sides of the Durand Line.

    The meeting between Wali Khan and Hamid took place against the backdrop of an organized campaign in the shape of seminars and public gatherings in NWFP and Balochistan designed ignite debate over the issue of "Pashtunistan", and with clear US patronage. Afghan delegations from Europe and America have visited Peshawar and Quetta, where they spoke openly of the Durand Line issue, and urged Pashtuns to unite and claim their rights.

    They said that the Durand Line had not only affected the history of Pashtuns, but had also changed their social and economic conditions. Germany-based Afghan Makhan Shinwari said that the Durand Line was the result of a conspiracy aimed at breaking Pashtun power. Such talk has not been heard in the volatile region for many years.

    The Soviets last played this card during their occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s in an attempt to destabilize the country. But after the collapse of the USSR and the communist government in Afghanistan, nationalist factions dropped the issue and joined hands with rightwing parties like the Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) for the first time in the history of Pakistan, if only to show that the demand for a Pashtun land had never been indigenous, but always instigated by foreigners.

    But now, with the Pakistani military intervention in the tribal belt, and the complete silence of the MMA, nationalist elements are furthering their move for a greater Pashtun territory from Kabul to Peshawar and Quetta.

    This development has broader implications. An immediate one could be a revival in the movement for a greater Balochistan. Ethnically, Baloch areas exist in Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan. Pakistani Balochistan is known as the "Third International" as it is the most important segment of the Baloch regions and could play an important role as a catalyst for revolution in Afghanistan and Iran.

    For this reason, the former USSR invested a lot of resources in making Balochistan a breeding point of nationalism and socialism. These anti-establishment trends were then exported to Iranian Balochistan.

    Inflammatory issues such as Pashtunistan and "Greater Balochistan" have the potential to slice the existing power bases in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran. Iranian Balochis, for example, are culturally and religiously (being Sunnis) as well as politically (liberal) totally different from the majority of Shi'ite Iran.

    A Pashtun nationalist revival could also stir a counter revival movement in northern Afghanistan in the ethnically Tajik and Uzbek areas, leading to the country's Balkanization.

    And further afield, who knows what other indigenous movements could be awoken - from a "Greater" Kashmir - which is already simmering - to a "Greater" Punjab.

    This is long term though. The immediate result of raising the Pashtunistan issue is instability in Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan, which is already in deep turmoil, and help for the US in enhancing its influence in the region.
    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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    Rahmat Shah Sayel: Remembering Nek Amal Khan - YouTube

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    Last edited by Toramana; 10-21-2011, 06:13 PM.

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    • #3
      ANP is a bunch of secularists and munafiqeen. Toramana is a big fan of this party.

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      • #4
        Thank you for proving my point for me. Now the evidence accumulates for a discussion regarding the ANP agenda, an agenda that not even the likes of Karzai is willing to endorse.... Sardar Daud shyed away from it, knowing that this foreign metastasis of the Leninist Cancer was not in harmony with the nature of Ahmad Shah Abdali's people.

        The following is an article, originally from AIRRA that discusses a certain comrade of Mr. Sial, a Dr. Sahib Sabir. He extols his many virtues, and other colleagues of his go on to note.:

        "Dr. Khaliq Ziar mentioned his personal and literary friendship with Dr. Sabir and focused on his ideological orientation. According to him Dr. Sabir was a Marxist who was vehemently against the economic, political and cultural exploitation and would never stop resisting and raising voice against it. He said that he was a pragmatist but would not indulge in opportunism."

        Birds of a feather, flock together.


        Reference on Dr. Sahib Shah Sabir
        Reference on Dr. Sahib Shah Sabir

        Peshawar, April 7 2009

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        Aryana Institute for Regional Research & Advocacy (AIRRA), Cultural Desk, organized a gathering in memory of the late Pashto poet and intellectual Dr. Sahib Shah Sabir Peshawar. The gathering was attended by prominent Pashtun intellectuals, poets, writers, media men and professionals from Pakistan and Afghanistan.

        The participants presented their dissertations on the life and works of Dr. Sahib Shah Sabir. Prominent Pashtun literary figures paid tributes to Dr. Sabir for his unwearied contributions to Pashto language and literature. Friends and contemporaries acknowledged his greatness by critically analyzing his works and chanted their own poems in his appraisal. The environment was ambivalently emotional with a sense of loss as well as gaining something from the very loss of a “literary genius.”

        In the beginning Gulzar Khan, member of AIRRA, heartily welcomed the participants and introduced the Cultural Desk of AIRRA. The aims and objectives of the Cultural Desk were highlighted with special reference to the on-going reference on Dr. Sabir and pledges were made for the promotion of Pashto language, culture and literature.

        He also talked about the future vision of the Desk. He said that in future the Cultural Desk will organize grand Mushaira once in a year. In order to encourage and appreciate the contribution to Pashto language and culture, AIRRA’s Culture Desk would announce the poet/prose writer/singer/musician/ of the year and he/ she will be honored with a shield and cash Prize. He thanked Rahmat Shah Sayel, Amjad Shehzad and all the staff of the Baacha Khan Trust for their help and support in organizing this reference.

        Meanwhile, great Pashto poets and writers and friends of Dr. Sahib Shah Sabir, Rahmat Shah Sayel and Dr. Khaliq Ziar were garlanded.

        Akbar Sial lamented the death of Dr. Sabir by terming it a great loss for the region and for Pashto. He expressed his view about the knowledge and creativity which Dr. Sabir possessed. He called him a brave person. According to him, he (Dr. Sabir) was the poet of the people and he was always committed to his nation. He thanked Khadim Hussain for organizing the gathering.

        In his paper, Mong ao Dr. Sabir (We and Dr. Sabir), great Pashto poet Rahmat Shah Sail reflected upon the literary and multidimensional personality of Dr. Sabir. He vehemently portrayed Dr. Sabir’s life since his first meeting and then to the many literary councils and organization they had either collectively organized or participated in the past. According to him Dr. Sabir Shah was so overwhelmed with reading that people would call him Kitab Shah (replacing his first name with kitab which means a book). He said that Dr. Sabir was a man of critical thinking, imagination and ideology. He would never lose ground—though a romancer and a critic in one person. He specifically mentioned his three books namely Takal (Search), Khoboona (dreams), Qamatoona Qiamatoona (fatal tallness/hight) and his fiction Waore ao Guloona (snow and flowers). Sail expressed his mind about the publication of Dr. Saibr PhD thesis. Concluding his thesis Rahmat Shah Sail urged the need for book culture. Later on he presented his favorite collection of Sabir’s poetry.

        In the second dissertations Dr. Khadim Hussain, Coordinator AIRRA, elaborated three main characteristics of Dr. Saibir as a poet. He said the poetry of Sabir contains augmented love, spirited imagination and resistance. According to him Sabir’s imagination is an inexhaustible fountain of love. There are two kinds of resistance i.e. Takhayolaati (imaginative) and Amali,(pragmatic)he added, and Dr. Sabir was the combination of the two. He gave reference to one of Dr. Sabir’s great poem “Na” (No). The poem embodies Sabir’s intellectual resistance to the conservative and right wing ideals.



        Dr. Khadim spotlighted cultural annihilation with specific reference to Wahabi Jehadist Ideology and extended his arguments to support every bit of Pashtun culture through the platform of AIRRA’s Cultural Desk. He said that the desk would translate books and research material into Pashto. He also said that AIRRA would translate Dr. Sabir’s books and this way the voice of the people would resonate across the world.

        While addressing the gathering, Dr. Fazal Rahim Marwat emphasized the need for peace and the role of Qalam (pen) in bringing peace to the region. He said that 21st century is the century of peace while 20th century was the century of inventions and wars. He said that 60 millions people are killed in the 20th century and the need for peace must be overemphasized. He valued Dr. Sabir for his contributions to Baacha Research Center in their efforts to bring peace to the region.

        Dr. Khaliq Ziar mentioned his personal and literary friendship with Dr. Sabir and focused on his ideological orientation. According to him Dr. Sabir was a Marxist who was vehemently against the economic, political and cultural exploitation and would never stop resisting and raising voice against it. He said that he was a pragmatist but would not indulge in opportunism.

        Abaseen Yousafzai talked about the academic excellence of Dr. Sabir by calling him a committed and progressive personality. According to him, his (Sabir’s) criticism, research and poetry are everlasting. Dr. Sabir would add to the liveliness of gatherings, he said and called him an honest man,. He lamented his death by saying that the death of a scholar is the death of the entire nation.

        Yar Muhammad Maghmoom said that Dr. Sabir was a young writer who had contributed much for the Pashto literature. He called him a truthful and courageous person. He appreciated his sense of vigilant critique and witticism. He called him a great poet.

        Saadullah Jan Barq also talked about the academic excellence of Dr. Saibr and mourned his death as a great loss to the nation.

        Muhib Ullah Shauq expressed his views on the different aspects of Dr. Sabir’s works and personality. He has named one of his poetry books from a line of Sabir’s famous couplet “Sparlia Zan Sara Janaan Rawala (O Spring, bring my beloved when you come to me).

        Dr. Raj Wali Shah Khattak urged the need for research on the academic, research, literary and political aspects of Dr. Sabir’s life and preservation of his ideas in order to bring his work and contribution to light. He said that Dr. Saibir had the capability to digest all that he read and he had attained the maturity of thought and art and termed him a mature poet and a practical man. “In him the intellectual honesty abounds”, he said. He lamented his loss by terming it a “big void in literary circles”. He thanked AIRRA for all its efforts.

        Hashmat Sahar chanted one of Sabir’s poems and the audience responded with a big applause.

        Ali Akbar Malakand presented his own verses in memory of Dr. Sabir.

        Tufail Zaryab Also presented his poetry.

        A resolution was passed demanding the removal of all obstacles in operation of Abaseen TV Channel.

        Amjad Shehzad and Israr Atal performed the duty of stage-secretaries.

        Dr. Raj Wali Shah Khattak presided over the gathering.



        The following participated in the gathering:

        Amjad Shehzad, Israr Atal, Rahmat Shah Sayel, Ms Jamila, Hashmat Sahar, Mass Khan Wisal, Amir Saleem, Tufail Ahmed Zaryab, Akbar Sial, Deedar Tahir, Aseer Mingal, Numan Abdullah, Khadim Hussain, Fazli Maula, Muazam Jan Muazam, Anwer Jalal Khattak, Dr. Fazal Rahim Marwat, Mohammad Yar, Abaseen Yoursafzai, Asad Danish, Rizwan Ullah Wazir, Habib Ullah Jan, Roohul Amin, Rooh Ullah, Mushtaq Ahmed, Mian Jave ur Rahman, Ali Jan Barq, Gulzar Khan, Shahid Khan, Javed, Nasrullah (Khan Ji), Farman Ullah, Rahman Ullah, Shaukat Khattak, Shaukat Sharar, Abdul Hai Kakar, Khurshid Baacha Kharkiwal, Zardad Khan, Ameer Raziq Khan, Dr. Muhammad Ghani, Fazl-e-Subhan Abid, Noor Rahman Noor, Bakht-i-Rawan, Zalan Momand, Dr. Muhamamd Zubair Hasrat, Zar Muhamamd Momand, Syed Noor Ali Shah, Abdul Salam, Haji Daim Khan, Nazir Gulab, Muhammad Nazeef, Dr. Khaliq Ziar, Dr. Yar Muhammad Maghmoom, Saadullah Jan Barq, Muhib Ullah Shauq, Ali Akbar Malakand, Dr. Raj Wali Shah Khattak and others.



        "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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        • #5
          the party is made up of posers. i don't see them as uber secularists who wish to see the day where pashtuns drink wine and have babies out of wedlock, but they are a misguided bunch, indeed. for a party based purely out of pride, they sure as hell have done nothing to advance the nationalist cause. besides lobbying for a provincial name change which is purely superficial, they have done nothing to help the average pashtun. now i wouldn't blame them if they were some rinky dink party on the outskirts of legitimacy, but they are an elected party that is a player in paki politics. this gives them the legitimacy to lobby for some change, but with that power they haven't done a thing. they are as useless as the mma, except these guys have mustaches instead of beards.
          There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

          Sayyid Qutb

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          • #6
            Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
            the party is made up of posers. i don't see them as uber secularists who wish to see the day where pashtuns drink wine and have babies out of wedlock, but they are a misguided bunch, indeed. for a party based purely out of pride, they sure as hell have done nothing to advance the nationalist cause. besides lobbying for a provincial name change which is purely superficial, they have done nothing to help the average pashtun. now i wouldn't blame them if they were some rinky dink party on the outskirts of legitimacy, but they are an elected party that is a player in paki politics. this gives them the legitimacy to lobby for some change, but with that power they haven't done a thing. they are as useless as the mma, except these guys have mustaches instead of beards.
            Thank you for your insightful commentary Randolph, its always a pleasure though we do not see eye to eye on all things. The coming weeks should make for interesting discussions. Eventually, this discussions forces a seguey into the issue of whether the mujahideen were a response or an instigation. To really get to the root answer of this we have to understand the history, one that I am working on familiarizing myself with.

            What is all the more fascinating is how land owning families in Pakistan, such as the Arababs as I think they are called, the Achekzais, the descendents of Bach Khan, all spear headed this movement that somehow preserves their land ownership, yet espouses an endorsement from the peasant class.

            The key for Afghans will be to understand how to avoid oligarchial ambitions and avoiding creating a Pakistan right next door to Pakistan, devoid of meritocracy to empower the few.

            The linch pin, or the deep throat, or the courier in all of this is an interesting figure named Mr. Bangash, whose involvement in the development of this party allows for folks to openly discuss its Marxist link and how these links were actually a large part of what would lead to Soviet innoculation, by extension support for Najib, and the subsequent opportunism.
            "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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            • #7
              ANP is a moderate party ...and you can find all kind of folks there...from very religious to liberal secular ...when you go to Bacha Khan Markaz in Pekhawar and when there is azan you find every body rushing towars the mosque on the ground floor...and that is the beauty of ANP.

              It has sustained the oppression of British Imperialists and their Pakistani lackeys...Akhwani and religious extremists associated with terrorist groups or potential terror sleeping cells cannot harm it...Islamic terrorism is on the backfoot...It is now time for moderate and progressive Islamic politics to lead Muslim societies...

              ISI wallas being representatives of Punjab's interests and so enemy of ANP for its stance on Pashtun identity are trying hard to malign it but they have failed...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                the party is made up of posers. i don't see them as uber secularists who wish to see the day where pashtuns drink wine and have babies out of wedlock, but they are a misguided bunch, indeed. for a party based purely out of pride, they sure as hell have done nothing to advance the nationalist cause. besides lobbying for a provincial name change which is purely superficial, they have done nothing to help the average pashtun. now i wouldn't blame them if they were some rinky dink party on the outskirts of legitimacy, but they are an elected party that is a player in paki politics. this gives them the legitimacy to lobby for some change, but with that power they haven't done a thing. they are as useless as the mma, except these guys have mustaches instead of beards.
                They will do everything if they get a chance to do. These are only these cultural norms that have stopped them from doing so. Their leaders are 24/7 drunk guys. They all love dance parties and love to promote it in the society and they are doing it in the name of culture.
                Then they are not an elected party but a selected party. There is no election thing in Pakistan but all is done is pre selection in a very sacred place and demonstration of voting is done lol. This all is just a drama. If you want proof so I can provide proof as well.
                these guys have moustaches hahahaha... Do you know these secular munafiqeen have started using the name "Jihad" in their speeches. Like the information minister Iftikhar Hussain uses the term "jihad" in his speeches every time. This was the term that they used to say the religious people use it for their motives. Now the same term is used by these munafiqeen.
                Shame for these secularists and their followers...

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                • #9
                  really though, what has the anp accomplished since its founding? i don't mean building some schools here and there or whatever, i mean something substantive which has benefited the people they claim to represent?
                  There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                  Sayyid Qutb

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                    really though, what has the anp accomplished since its founding? i don't mean building some schools here and there or whatever, i mean something substantive which has benefited the people they claim to represent?
                    The answer to this very question is "nothing"

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                    • #11
                      Hahaha, actually, emkhan has had association with Swat Taleban movement....
                      Last edited by Toramana; 10-21-2011, 07:44 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                        ANP is a moderate party ...and you can find all kind of folks there...from very religious to liberal secular ...when you go to Bacha Khan Markaz in Pekhawar and when there is azan you find every body rushing towars the mosque on the ground floor...and that is the beauty of ANP.

                        It has sustained the oppression of British Imperialists and their Pakistani lackeys...Akhwani and religious extremists associated with terrorist groups or potential terror sleeping cells cannot harm it...Islamic terrorism is on the backfoot...It is now time for moderate and progressive Islamic politics to lead Muslim societies...

                        ISI wallas being representatives of Punjab's interests and so enemy of ANP for its stance on Pashtun identity are trying hard to malign it but they have failed...

                        Thank you for your opinion. I am sure you will be actively involved with a discussion of the historical sources. The goal will not be to malign these folks, but rather to investigate what their root beliefs are, what the beliefs of the party precursors were, and to understand what the platform of the party means in terms of harmony of dissonance with Pashtun norms. Of course, the Taliban, Afghan Mellat, and the rest of the groups will be discussed in due time.

                        However, in the words of a famous Warrior General: "He who is everywhere is nowhere."

                        Therefore, I will invest my time into a diligent historical investigation of this group and then we can subsequently talk about the others.

                        The goal will be invest in facts, whether we like them or not.
                        "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                          Thank you for your opinion. I am sure you will be actively involved with a discussion of the historical sources. The goal will not be to malign these folks, but rather to investigate what their root beliefs are, what the beliefs of the party precursors were, and to understand what the platform of the party means in terms of harmony of dissonance with Pashtun norms. Of course, the Taliban, Afghan Mellat, and the rest of the groups will be discussed in due time.

                          However, in the words of a famous Warrior General: "He who is everywhere is nowhere."

                          Therefore, I will invest my time into a diligent historical investigation of this group and then we can subsequently talk about the others.

                          The goal will be invest in facts, whether we like them or not.
                          Go ahead...But one can expect little objectivity from someone driven by the fanatic Ikhwani Ideology...What about your in-laws? Are they still associated with Zial-ul-Haq's legacy ?

                          A lot of people have written about ANP---You could be another one.

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                          • #14
                            I don't have association with anyone but I know the ANP from very close. I know their ideologies, their goals that they are pursuing, their hate for Islam, their love for freedom of women even pashtun women, their love for dance and drink, their love for many other things which have no association with Pashtoons or Pashtoon society. But one I like about them, they have started using the term "jihad" in their speeches which a good move. It means they have realized how much "jihad" is important in life.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                              really though, what has the anp accomplished since its founding? i don't mean building some schools here and there or whatever, i mean something substantive which has benefited the people they claim to represent?
                              I think what you are getting at, and where we see eye to eye Randolph, is that party politics is rather foolish.

                              What has it accomplished for America really? In the last election, the voices of Dr. Paul and others were drowned out purposefully... as is being done so again in this election:

                              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_927964.html

                              To the point where Jon Stewart has had to discuss it.

                              The issue with party politics is that it allows for the elites to continue and control the tempo and control the policy irrespective of what the people may actually want. In the last election, it was a choice between escalation and permanent bases in Iraq (something Americans are opposed to) and escalation and permanent bases in Afghanistan (something that they are opposed to).

                              By this same token, when capitalism is infused into the process, this is what occurs:

                              http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...0fa_fact_mayer

                              The general reply is simply an aw shucks and a "gee well this PROVES that a balance is struck with party politics in that for every Koch brother there is a George Soros..." completely and blithely ignoring the fact that perhaps, Americans want neither of these viewpoints hoisted on them.

                              In this same way, and perhaps in a worse way, in the middle east, south asia, and central asia, the farcical implementation of democracy ends up taking a Khan and just attaching him to a party to ensure that the oligarchial control and lack of meritocracy proceeds uninterrupted.

                              In the US, the population burden is still low enough, and wealth is still extensive enough to ensure that while Jon Kerry's daughter can land a medical school spot... there are enough spots and enough of a need so that Randolph85 can do so as well.

                              By this same token, the champions of hoisting this mentality onto Pashtuns is gauranteeing servitude for generations.

                              Nonetheless, we have to be informed about the history, platform, and evolution of the AMP, Awami Marxist Party.
                              "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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