Pashtoon/Arab Discussion

[Al Hanif]

As-Salam ‘ala man Taba’ al-Huda

First of all, I would like to tell that Muslims and Non-Muslims should not be mixed. This is the first step to avoid fitnah. This forum is breaking this rule and you see the result.

Secondly, many of the muslims here are following the path of Shirk. For example, Al-arab and Bengali_Tiger.

Dear al-arab, It looks like you only care about your your race/your country. An Arab is not superior to a non-Arab, except by piety. Do I have to remind you that there was a time when Meccan Arabs were the greatest islamophobes and killed many muslims ? So Arabs are not better than Non-Arabs. Stop fueling the hatred against arabs with such a behaviour.

Dear Bengali_Tiger, the only reason why you don't like Talibans is because they threatened your country and killed Bangladeshis ? If they did this to another counrty, you wouldn't care ? You think Bangladesh is better than Islam ? The reason why Bangladesh was threatened is because Talibans don't wan't to have another ennemy to fight against (especially if it's a muslim country, imagine the psychological impact). As for Bangladeshis killed, Talibans urged all foreigners to leave Afghanistan. If the Bangladeshis were muslims, they should have taken part in Jihad. If they weren't, then they were invaders and deserve to be killed.

Soldat_Amir, Pashtuns are muslims, no matter what they were before. You better understand it well. The same way Arabs are muslims, no matter if they were Pagans, moon-worshippers, Jews, Sabians or Christians during pre-Islamic times. Let's say that Islam will disappear from this planet (which will never happen) then Afghanistan will be the last country to leave Islam and you know it better than me. So, don't waste your time.

I kindly also ask the moderators to ban the people who are making racist remarks about Arabs. I am not Arab but this is extremely offensive. Don't force me to ban myself.

[graveyardofempires]

The best thing we can do is ,avoid these atheists who use the name of Pashtun.
they are non existing on the ground,all they can do is have wild dreams.

[tor_khan]

Al Hanif. I'm not going to quote your last line. It doesn't deserve the honour. You know in making that example, but then distancing yourself from it, you reveal something about the way you think.

Graveyard, this thread came about when Bengal Tiger requested that some comments in another thread on Bangladesh and India that were off topic be moved.

[graveyardofempires]

tor jana
maybe the thread title should have been "atheist non exiting Pashtuns hate arabs" that way we wouldnt have been used for anti muslim agenda.

btw i cant stand alot of arabs for example the house of saud,those filthy rich kuwaitis,and many more,having said that ,any arab who considered pashtuns as their brother is my brother.
these arabs such as house of saud also abuse and discriminate other arabs.

for example : the saudi princes go to morroco on a ship and load in virgin girls from there to be used as their sexslaves(heard this from a morrocan himself).

but offcourse peopel such as this thread starter doesnt have a problem with these types of arabs ,he uses the word arab to express his disgust towards Islam.

[muslim]

Why are you not able to answer quesitons? Because I tell you the truth.

If Pashtuns hated Arabs they would not embrace them with open hands, nor Mujahedeens during the Soviet war. Nor would they move to Arab countries as thousands of them do. So please, keep quite if you don't how the knowledge to comment. This is a Arab saying.

Most Muslism love Arabs and our ancient culture that have influenced Islam greatly. The language of the Quran is Arabic and only Arabic. Do the rest of the math.

I bet that most Muslims don't even know the difference between Tajisk/Hazaras and Pashtuns but this don't stop you from being racist towards Arabs that are highly respected among 99 of muslims and from claiming to know Arab history.

we did let the muslims mujahdeen in afg becuase they were muslim's NOT ARAB.
you still dont get it ?

to be HONEST no one like arabs that much now adays.
you arabs showing the hate and look down open other's but still some are good.
dont compare the arabs in the past to now days arabs, its like comparing REAL MEN to bitch's.
again there are lots of good arab as the bad ones.
Iam just telling you, you are an idiot.
its the same way the isrealy say about them self's the choosen one's.LOL

[MohannaD]

muslim
kindly refrain from using such language.

[MohannaD]

tor jana
maybe the thread title should have been "atheist non exiting Pashtuns hate arabs" that way we wouldnt have been used for anti muslim agenda.

btw i cant stand alot of arabs for example .....
,any arab who considered pashtuns as their brother is my brother.
these arabs such as......... also abuse and discriminate other arabs.

for example : the princes go to ....on a ship ...

Brother don't believe everything you hear .

Being rich doesn't make you filthy , and being poor doesn't make you pure .

Brother , please try to avoid generalizing when talking about others , whether Arabs or not .

[al-arab]

I reacted in a bad manner because I was being called a camel and insulted without any reason. I don't hate Jews and has made that clear. It is also un-islamic as I myself have said 1000 times. I don't like Zionism but that's a political ideology not a race.

What I don't understand is posters who call us al that Tonamora did. He thinks al Arabs are the same and that Arabs = Osama Bin Laden. I find that offensive and I don't understand why he hates us so much. I have not done anything to him.

You think that the so-called "Royal Families" are real Arabs? Nobody has said that Arabs is perfect but I just told the critics that they have contributed greatly to Islam, the world, scientisct, matematics, philosophy etc. I don't think the criticism is deserved.

I don't and wan't take responsibility for what a few hundred brainwashed fanatics do in Afghanistan/Pakistan/Waziristan.

I also don't expect Pashtuns to culture because of Taliban.

And no, I have never said Arabs are superior than other Muslims (would be wrong) but I will defend Arabs and what they have contributed to the world. This is my right when racist people call fellow brothers for camels, uneducated, uncivilized etc. and other lies.

If you don't believe that Jews and Arabs lived peacefully before Balfour agreement (the real jews that lived in the Middle East for centuries not people that came after teh agreement from East Europe) then I can't help you.

But maybe it would be good idea for you to open your mind and be a bit more tolerant. You always seem to criticise everything that has do do with Islam believing that only Al Qaeda and Taliban exist. There is more to it.

I think you should come and visit the Arab world and see how we really are. From Morocco to Oman. I am sure you will change your view.

[muslim]

tormana is not pashtun. even if he's claiming he's pashtun you should know he's not muslim.
dont let the non muslims bring hate btw us muslims.
most who hate the taliban here ethier dont know nothing like you or non muslims like tormana.

we love osama bin laden and we love the taliban.

Taliban are the one who gived the world the best islamic country than the rest. and now they are proving it better and better.

why you dont like the taliban mujahdeens ?

[al-arab]

tormana is not pashtun. even if he's claiming he's pashtun you should know he's not muslim.
dont let the non muslims bring hate btw us muslims.
most who hate the taliban here ethier dont know nothing like you or non muslims like tormana.

we love osama bin laden and we love the taliban.

Taliban are the one who gived the world the best islamic country than the rest. and now they are proving it better and better.

why you dont like the taliban mujahdeens ?

Than you brother.

Don misunderstod me wrong I don't hate anybody here I see no reason. I just wanted to say that no Arabs are perfect and that not all Arabs wanted the best for Afghanistan. This is also the same in Taliban. Not all Talibans want the best for Afghans.

As I wrote yesterday I prefer Taliban rather than fake Afghan government because most Afghans prefer Taliban from what I can see. I wan't Afghans to decide themselves not America.

I don't like Al-Qaeda but I have respect for their fight against Zionism and USA and other imperialist that want to harm Muslims and Arabs and others. But belive me, Al-Qaeda has also done some wrong things especially in Iraq. But I don't know this forum well.

I was called a extremists yesterday and now I maybe will be called the opposite.

But to say the same as I did yesterday. Afghanistan should be ruled by Afghans, they should decide about themselves and Islam should be the key in society.

[Shayesta]

Looks like Arab-mania going on here, aye? Language, please.

[graveyardofempires]

Shayest you again with your threating red font.
am happy you are nto my grandma.

[Shayesta]

^ Ditto.

[graveyardofempires]

^
ditto?

whatto is ditto?

[AFG21]

Oke the stuff peopel say here are not really nice. We must not act so imature.
Arabs on the general are not that bad only some, but you have rotten appels every where. And toramona you must not hate a whole group of peopel, even if you had bad excpirience whith them, not evreone is the same. Sometimes I also get really angry and say bad things about them but when I am calmed down I realise, that what I say was not right. We should never let our emotions speak for ourself.

And for the peopel who don't know what Afghanistan was before Islam go to Bamiyan where you can see the remains of the giant budha, Pashtuns were Budhists and some zaroastrian later they become muslim. Denieng this is denieng your own culture and herritage. And actually from Afghanistan budhism was spread to other countrys. And also the folk tailes that my granmother used to tell me are similare to the zoroastrian mythologie.

Once my grandmother told me about that when we die we have to walk on bridge to paradise the ones who were good for them the bridge was strong and firm and they would walk savely to paradise and the ones who were bad the bridge was weak and braked half way so they would fall in tho hell. This story has nothing to do whith islam but is an zoraostrian story. That is enoughf proof for me that we were not muslim in the begining.