Pashtoon/Arab Discussion

[emkhan]

many of the sahaba were arab before they became muslim... Pashtuns where Zoroastrian most likely before they adopted Islam

Dear, your knowledge about Islam is very limited I think. Islam has not come 1400 years ago... Islam is long before hazrat Adam a.s

[Dreamer]

what if Pashtuns were muslims before Islam?

They where not

[Dreamer]

Dear, your knowledge about Islam is very limited I think. Islam has not come 1400 years ago... Islam is long before hazrat Adam a.s

hardly.. Pastuns where not monothiests... and if they where they where probably Zoroastrian..

[graveyardofempires]

They where not

how do you know that for sure?

[Dreamer]

how do you know that for sure?

simple... TOTAL LACK OF HISTORICAL PROOF

[emkhan]

hardly.. Pastuns where not monothiests... and if they where they where probably Zoroastrian..

Allah showed them the right path and alhamdulillah we took birth in the Muslim families.

[graveyardofempires]

simple... TOTAL LACK OF HISTORICAL PROOF

how one can have historical proof for a people being muslims?

[Dreamer]

how one can have historical proof for a people being muslims?

are there any writtings which Show Pashtuns before the formal establishment of Islam ( the religion we have today) believed in one God? No

[Alchemist]

are there any writtings which Show Pashtuns before the formal establishment of Islam ( the religion we have today) believed in one God? No

What did pashtuns believe before the establishment of Islam?

[Dreamer]

What did pashtuns believe before the establishment of Islam?

some where Pagan.. some where Zoroastrian... there are many Buddhist and Fire temples in Afghanistan...

[Bengal_Tiger]

There are some people on this forum who are secular, however they are educated, polite and can discuss like civilized people e.g. Levanaye Zalmaye.

There are however other secularists on this forum (they know who they are) that if you merely object to Islam being attacked they label you "Taliban" and "ISI supporter", their hatred of Islam is such that without saying it directly if you respect Islam or a Muslim you are their enemy, as if Pashtun nationalism and Islam are mutually opposed to each other, which they certainly are not.

I for example hate the ISI.

I don't like the Taliban (who have threatened Bangladesh and killed Bangladeshis).

However that is not enough for these people, I have to hate Islam, support NATO, support Farangay to kill and bomb Pakhtoon children in FATA and then, only then will they be happy.

These people need to wake up and realize Pashtuns are Muslims and will remain so and that does not make you a Taliban-supporter.

[Toramana]

There are some people on this forum who are secular, however they are educated, polite and can discuss like civilized people e.g. Levanaye Zalmaye.

There are however other secularists on this forum (they know who they are) that if you merely object to Islam being attacked they label you "Taliban" and "ISI supporter", their hatred of Islam is such that without saying it directly if you respect Islam or a Muslim you are their enemy, as if Pashtun nationalism and Islam are mutually opposed to each other, which they certainly are not.

I for example hate the ISI.

I don't like the Taliban (who have threatened Bangladesh and killed Bangladeshis).

However that is not enough for these people, I have to hate Islam, support NATO, support Farangay to kill and bomb Pakhtoon children in FATA and then, only then will they be happy.

These people need to wake up and realize Pashtuns are Muslims and will remain so and that does not make you a Taliban-supporter.

No...You have to explain to members here how the infidels and kafirs like Amrita Sen and Rabindar Nath Taigore who were/are also secularists are your daddies in Bangla ethnicity and nationalism in whom you take a pride but on the other hand preach that a liberal Pashtun should be dejected and excluded from the fold of Pashtuns---

How come you post here news and videos showing how pragmatically have Bangla Deshis established relations with other nations irrespective of whether they are infidels or Muslims and merely on the basis of the interests of Bangla people but promote here relgious exclusivism.

The other day a pretty religious Bangladeshi told me how an increasing number of couples in Dhaka are living togethor without marriage (and with pre-marriage conjugal relations) just like in India ---He also mentioned there is a good amount of interaction between the Hindu West Bangalis and Muslim East Bangalis and that inter-marriages are pretty frequent...When I asked him do you approve of it, he said he has no qualm about that...

The fact is, like other South Asians Muslims, you are using the Islam of Pashtuns for your "jehadi masterbation" (imaginary defeat of America by Pashtuns in which you lose nothing but extract the Islamist satisfaction)...

I still have respect for you and Bangladeshis and have a good image of Bangladesh, Malayia, Indonesia, ...and argue that these countires should be examples for Pashtuns not the "camel countries" but you should be principled, upright, and not a hypocrite and recommend for Pashtuns what you chose for your Bangladesh....

[al-arab]

No...You have to explain to members here how the infidels and kafirs like Amrita Sen and Rabindar Nath Taigore who were/are also secularists are your daddies in Bangla ethnicity and nationalism in whom you take a pride but on the other hand preach that a liberal Pashtun should be dejected and excluded from the fold of Pashtuns---

How come you post here news and videos showing how pragmatically have Bangla Deshis established relations with other nations irrespective of whether they are infidels or Muslims and merely on the basis of the interests of Bangla people but promote here relgious exclusivism.

The other day a pretty religious Bangladeshi told me how an increasing number of couples in Dhaka are living togethor without marriage (and with pre-marriage conjugal relations) just like in India ---He also mentioned there is a good amount of interaction between the Hindu West Bangalis and Muslim East Bangalis and that inter-marriages are pretty frequent...When I asked him do you approve of it, he said he has no qualm about that...

The fact is, like other South Asians Muslims, you are using the Islam of Pashtuns for your "jehadi masterbation" (imaginary defeat of America by Pashtuns in which you lose nothing but extract the Islamist satisfaction)...

I still have respect for you and Bangladeshis and have a good image of Bangladesh, Malayia, Indonesia, ...and argue that these countires should be examples for Pashtuns not the "camel countries" but you should be principled, upright, and not a hypocrite and recommend for Pashtuns what you chose for your Bangladesh....

Why is this Kafir calling the oldest civilization for camels, offending Prophet Muhammads race (S.A.W.) and being a ignorant?

I bet you don't even have been in one single Arab country but watch CNN/BBC all the time and think all Arabs are the new Osama Bin Laden. Or have you been bullied by Arabs in the Western country you probably live in?

What do you think the majority of Pashtuns in Afghanistan/Pakistan would think of your attitude towards Arabs, un-islamic behaviour and racism?

[Dreamer]

Why is this Kafir calling the oldest civilization for camels, offending Prophet Muhammads race (S.A.W.) and being a ignorant?

I bet you don't even have been in one single Arab country but watch CNN/BBC all the time and think all Arabs are the new Osama Bin Laden. Or have you been bullied by Arabs in the Western country you probably live in?

What do you think the majority of Pashtuns in Afghanistan/Pakistan would think of your attitude towards Arabs, un-islamic behaviour and racism?

you offended the race of many prophets... improve your view of Jews before you preach to others about their racisim

[Toramana]

Why is this Kafir calling the oldest civilization for camels, offending Prophet Muhammads race (S.A.W.) and being a ignorant?

I bet you don't even have been in one single Arab country but watch CNN/BBC all the time and think all Arabs are the new Osama Bin Laden. Or have you been bullied by Arabs in the Western country you probably live in?

What do you think the majority of Pashtuns in Afghanistan/Pakistan would think of your attitude towards Arabs, un-islamic behaviour and racism?

Now don't take refuge in Islamic sentamentalism...a lazy, louzy, uncouth, under-evolved, mentally-retarded Arab can be anything but a symbol of respect...Go to your shiekhdom, enjoy your harem, eat and drink superflously (as long as you have petro-dollars), and fill that commode---this what most Arabs do...Such cereberal discussions are not an Arab's cup of tea.