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  • #76
    Originally posted by AshrafGhaljay View Post
    they are too dense to understand that you are using their logic against them.

    and Scimitar is apparently a Masters/ PhD in Rocks student.
    I'm a Masters student in Applied Mathematics

    and I understood Khushal's agenda; but it fails because he commits a logical fallacy that Taliban purposely killing Muslims is the same as HAMAS purposely killing occupiers.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
      If that's the case why isnt he using him to protect his body; because if I were an IDF soldier I could easily shoot him without harming the child, snipers are trained to do that. When you're dragging a child that low that's clearly NOT using a human shield.


      they suicide bomb against people who occupy their land; much different than suicide bombing people who are APART of your land.

      It is Syria who should be on trial for their crimes NOT Hamas.....the fact you look for the most abstract thing to pin onto HAMAS shows how weak your case is

      where as I can find numerous examples of well known Taliban crimes which they boasted about gleefully all over.
      first every IDF soldier is not a sniper and every IDF soldier is not a excellent marksman. they are not super human. the guy didnt even pick him up right, he picked him up like a doll and why did he pick up that particular child and not the other ones. there are many children there. and why is he standing close to unarmed palistinians so IDF soldiers wont shoot at him.

      By your logic
      war crimes against their own people.
      Palestinian activists urge Hamas to probe own Gaza war crimes - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

      so this hamas member hiding behind a wall shooting at IDF soldiers while the children are at the front of the line so IDF soldiers wont shoot back is also him protecting the children or protecting himself.

      you have said suicide bombing is wrong and now you are saying its ok as long as its hamas using it. contradiction.
      hamas is silent on the issue because they are slaves. Why are they not speaking up and condemning the atrocities the syrians are committing.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
        The only Human shields are people who volunteer, HAMAS never force civilians as human shields. the Taliban do.
        children can volunteer?

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        • #79
          Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
          It does considering that they're NOT targeting their own civilians.

          ok HAMAS's brutality against Fatah....again targeting combatants. NOT civilians.
          They are targeting their own civilians if they use civilians as human shields to attack Israeli targets. They are forcing the Israelis to shoot back so civilians can die and make the IDF soldiers as war criminals.

          What are you saying here that it is OK for hamas to torture Fatah elders after they have been captured or surrendered.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by khushal View Post
            first every IDF soldier is not a sniper and every IDF soldier is not a excellent marksman. they are not super human. the guy didnt even pick him up right, he picked him up like a doll and why did he pick up that particular child and not the other ones. there are many children there. and why is he standing close to unarmed palistinians so IDF soldiers wont shoot at him.

            By your logic
            war crimes against their own people.
            Palestinian activists urge Hamas to probe own Gaza war crimes - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

            so this hamas member hiding behind a wall shooting at IDF soldiers while the children are at the front of the line so IDF soldiers wont shoot back is also him protecting the children or protecting himself.

            you have said suicide bombing is wrong and now you are saying its ok as long as its hamas using it. contradiction.
            hamas is silent on the issue because they are slaves. Why are they not speaking up and condemning the atrocities the syrians are committing.

            actually IDF soldiers are known for their accuracy., who said he was standing there, it ws a 30 second clip; your conclusions are nebulous; ll you have is video of a guy running with a kid No smoking gun.

            Not even an Authorative recap of the scenario.

            You're making a straw man suicide bombing is wrong when you use it AGAINST YOUR OWN MUSLIMS ....

            Taliban= kills other Muslims
            Hamas= kills invaders and their DIRECT collaborators only (and no this doesn't mean bombing weddings and mosques).


            everything you have posted so far is AT best an allegation no smoking gun yet. ......

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            • #81
              Originally posted by khushal View Post
              children can volunteer?
              No but children aren't being used as Human shields; only cowardly Talibs do that.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by khushal View Post
                They are targeting their own civilians if they use civilians as human shields to attack Israeli targets. They are forcing the Israelis to shoot back so civilians can die and make the IDF soldiers as war criminals.

                What are you saying here that it is OK for hamas to torture Fatah elders after they have been captured or surrendered.
                that's a loooooooooooooooooooooooong stetch, and one based on assuming that the first statement is true.

                Only a Muslim murdering Talib lover would conceive such a thing

                It's not "ok" but at least they dont target the innocent.

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                • #83
                  so what are kids doing in these pictures



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                  • #84
                    funny how he and Randoplh excuse all acts by Hamas. Scimitar contradicts his own self-righteousness

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                    • #85
                      All Khushal did was take pictures where the HAMAS are standing in front of people and draw circles around them.

                      there's nothing to defend because nothing is actually happening there. In one case all Khushal did was take a video still of a video I already debunked and drew in a red circle as if that proves something.

                      It's a weak case a circular argument.

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                      • #86
                        i say **** massud
                        Ka Makh De Rana Hear Sho No Jehan Ba Rana Hear She
                        Ka Nom De Rana Hear Sho No Khpal Zan Ba Rana Her She[

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                          All Khushal did was take pictures where the HAMAS are standing in front of people and draw circles around them.

                          there's nothing to defend because nothing is actually happening there. In one case all Khushal did was take a video still of a video I already debunked and drew in a red circle as if that proves something.

                          It's a weak case a circular argument.
                          they are standing in crowds with children firing at IDF soldiers using them as human shields to prevent IDF from firing back.
                          here is documented proof of the crime
                          New report says Hamas used kids as human shields | j. the Jewish news weekly of Northern California

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by khushal View Post
                            they are standing in crowds with children firing at IDF soldiers using them as human shields to prevent IDF from firing back.
                            here is documented proof of the crime
                            New report says Hamas used kids as human shields | j. the Jewish news weekly of Northern California


                            Yeah that might be convincing if they were BEHIND the children, but in front of the children, behind mounds of dirt ...and the children there are just standing and watching, not really convincing



                            this is a human shield


                            I think we can effectively say your case is void

                            J-news- Jewish News weekly? Nice

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                            • #89
                              No one is defending what the IDF does. I ran into much worse pictures than what you posted.

                              This is your logic.
                              But I presented you a document. It is your responsibility to prove the document is inaccurate. The Jewish reporters has no motive to lie. Those are your words.

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                              • #90
                                No you're committing a straw man, not my logic at all. for example I never said they're biased because they're jewish, the news source is deliberately for the favor of Jews.

                                and when you present things that you think refute me , you use the same rehashed ambiguous pictures ...or stuff from clearly deliberately motivated sources

                                seriously J-News? ok man.
                                Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 09-20-2011, 06:03 PM.

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