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  • #16
    Originally posted by khushal View Post
    logic


    in other words, you're bull****ting, point taken.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
      in other words, you're bull****ting, point taken.
      No, not bull****ting.

      Hamas targets Israeli civilians, to retaliate, Israel targets palistinians civilians hence hamas targets palistinian civilians becasue everytime they target israeli civilians, israels retaliation of targeting palistinian civilians is guaranteed.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
        ^
        wow you are fast at dancing aroudn the truth.
        Afghan civilians feed the taliban ,let me guess now that is a conspiracy right?


        Even Khushal admitted to Arab funded of the Taliban.....




        it's also documented

        US fears on Taliban cash revealed - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

        US fears on Taliban cash revealed
        Leaked US cables show Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states as key sources for funds for al-Qaeda and Taliban
        .

        Saudi Arabia is a key source of funds for armed groups, including al-Qaeda, the Afghan Taliban and Pakistan's Lashkar-e-Taiba, according to a leaked US state department assessment.

        In a series of diplomatic cables spanning several years, published by the WikiLeaks whistleblowing website on Sunday, the state department details how such groups continue to seek financing in Saudi Arabia, often posing as pilgrims visiting the Muslim holy sites.

        "Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaeda, the Taliban, LeT, and other terrorist groups, including Hamas, which probably raise millions of dollars annually from Saudi sources, often during Hajj and Ramadan," Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, said in one cable sent in December 2009.

        "In contrast to its increasingly aggressive efforts to disrupt al-Qaeda's access to funding from Saudi sources, Riyadh has taken only limited action to disrupt fundraising for the UN 1267-listed Taliban and LeT-groups that are also aligned with al-Qaeda and focused on undermining stability in Afghanistan and Pakistan."

        'Significant progress'

        The memo credited the Saudis with "significant progress" under US pressure to deal with the issue, especially disrupting al-Qaeda's finance channels.

        However, it said that "Riyadh has taken only limited action" to interrupt the flow of money to Taliban and LeT-associated groups which have launched attacks in Afghanistan, Pakistan and India.

        it seems like all your comrades admit to Arab support except you.


        So much for playing ethnicity card like a beghairat coward.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by khushal View Post
          No, not bull****ting.

          Hamas targets Israeli civilians, to retaliate, Israel targets palistinians civilians hence hamas targets palistinian civilians becasue everytime they target israeli civilians, israels retaliation of targeting palistinian civilians is guaranteed.

          YEs they target people colonizing them, NOT THEIR OWN CIVILIANS

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
            YEs they target people colonizing them, NOT THEIR OWN CIVILIANS
            They are if it guarantees palistinian civilians deaths.

            this is by your logic.

            Hamas terrorists kill innocent Palestinian in Gaza (Rare Video) (Must See) - YouTube

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            • #21
              Originally posted by khushal View Post
              They are if it guarantees palistinian civilians deaths.

              this is by your logic.

              Hamas terrorists kill innocent Palestinian in Gaza (Rare Video) (Must See) - YouTube
              there is no indication here that this is HAMAS except the guys commentary. That would be like me making a random video of inner city Philadelphia and saying "oh hey look that's the Taliban", this isn't an sort of official news source

              ...your rational is trying to Texas Sharp Shoot anything to fit your definition of killing civilians.

              just because you dont want to admit Taliban wilfully murder civilians.
              Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 09-12-2011, 02:13 AM.

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              • #22
                by your logic
                Well since Hamas claims to control gaza, therefore every armed person in gaza is hamas, therfore these armed inviduals has to be hamas. Any way you cut it, hamas killed these innocent palistinians.

                here is another video of hamas killing and torturing fata members which is also a palistinians group

                Shocking testimonials about HAMAS - YouTube

                its in arabic so you would understand it, let us know if the subtitles are wrong because it is shocking.
                Last edited by khushal; 09-12-2011, 03:08 AM.

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                • #23
                  this is showing a video of HAMAS against Fatah brigades, secularists.

                  weak

                  so basically no evidence of HAMAS targeting civilians.....ok case closed.....moving on

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                  • #24
                    but they are still killing palistinians, who are their own people and that was the argument

                    name a resistance group and I can show evidence that they have killed their own people.
                    go ahead give me a challenge.

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                    • #25
                      so even when you show me a video of FATAH brigade members ......you say "they're still killing civilians"

                      when your texas sharp shooter fails you just revert back to your premise as if it's automatically true; circular reasoning.

                      you're desperately grasping for something ...anything to exonerate Taliban..

                      you haven't even shown that HAMAS deliberately target their own civilians like the Taliban do. Now you're trying to stretch the argument elsewhere?

                      you've become AshrafGhaljay.

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                      • #26
                        I have presented these videos as official documents,
                        prove that these documents are false.
                        the burden of proof is on you.

                        here they are killing palistinians civilians again
                        Hamas Exploitation of Civilians as Human Shields - YouTube

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                        • #27
                          Hamas - Human Shield Confession - YouTube

                          yeah here ....they're taking the fact that civilians WILFULLY shield HAMAS, as meaning HAMAS are deliberately trying to get their people killed.


                          debunked

                          next

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                            Even Khushal admitted to Arab funded of the Taliban.....

                            http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...ates-us-20316/


                            it's also documented

                            US fears on Taliban cash revealed - Middle East - Al Jazeera English




                            it seems like all your comrades admit to Arab support except you.


                            So much for playing ethnicity card like a beghairat coward.
                            first of all i never said arabs dont help the taliban since they are fellow muslims.
                            but you seem to be dancing around like you are on a hot pan.
                            and for that i dont need your biased sources which you just googled.
                            ethnicity card? it seems to me you just love bashing Pashtuns calling them illiterate poor or turban wearing beard having pedophiles bu twhen you hear the word arab all up sudden you become extremely defensive.

                            and dont throuw the word beghairath if you dont know what it means.
                            dont attack personal .

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                            • #29
                              @ scimitarx


                              first of all you should change your words , calling people aids sick , and suggesting they are also some thing else is highly offensive , go to tajikam or pak defence forum there you can speak like a faisha ,but not here !!!
                              those people will welcome you .they use the same language .

                              2.

                              i have also my critics with the taliban , and some of their policies , but i prefer every one of them over an american,saudi,paki etc. , at least they are my blood ,my brothers , my people .

                              its true that some saudis support some groups , but ask your self , if those saudis were such barve they would first liberate their own country from kafir us presence , instead finance wars oversee. so the only logic answer is , those people do it for their financial interesst in a post u.s afghanistan to seek leverage and influence , of course that must watched closely and if its against our national interesst we should say thank you ,pay them out , and ask to leave .


                              3.
                              i dont care about hamas or hizballah ( what a stupid name ,as if allah needs a political party ? ) we have our own problems , where no one cares , palestine is occupied since 50 years , so what ?

                              we have continous war for 30 years , and most of our so "islamic " brothers took great advantage of those wars , and supported them to .

                              our children also dies , our villages are also polluted but no one cares so much as they do abou palestine .

                              look at the arabs what they are doing , they "fight " for their freedom so can nato bomb their homes and towns , and their resourcess can be stolen by elf agitel or Bp or shell .

                              and then they are proud that they ousted a bad kafir president , and ofcourse he was kafir because he didnt danced like the others around POTUS.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                                Hamas - Human Shield Confession - YouTube

                                yeah here ....they're taking the fact that civilians WILFULLY shield HAMAS, as meaning HAMAS are deliberately trying to get their people killed.


                                debunked

                                next
                                by your logic,
                                hamas intentionally targets israeli citizens from civilian institutions guaranteeing israel to shoot back at those civilian locations so palistinian civilians can die.
                                so by your logic
                                they intentionally want palistinian civilians to die so the international community can criticize israel. so it is they who kill palistian civilians.
                                why wont they be sincere and join the israeli government so palistinain civilian can stop dieing.
                                These hamas are egyptian and gulf arab slaves who use palistinians as cannon fodder for strategic depth in israel while at the same time they get American aid.

                                here is another video, the egyptian and saudi slaves use children as suicide bombers
                                Hamas indoctrination of Kids: Bombs more precious than children - YouTube

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