Message Of Felicitation Of The Esteemed Amir-Ul-Momineen On The Occasion Of Eid-Ul-F

[faye]

if the hazaras are living so peacefully with the taliban why are so many becoming refugees to australia, pakistan and other countries. they sell everything they own and risk their and their families lives, to come all the way to australia on leaky boats, to then spend, maybe years in horrid conditions in immigration centres. they claim abuse oppression and murder by taliban.
over many years there have been claims by afghan people about taliban abuses. is everyone from afghanistan liars, who state these things?

[graveyardofempires]

if the hazaras are living so peacefully with the taliban why are so many becoming refugees to australia, pakistan and other countries. they sell everything they own and risk their and their families lives, to come all the way to australia on leaky boats, to then spend, maybe years in horrid conditions in immigration centres. they claim abuse oppression and murder by taliban.
over many years there have been claims by afghan people about taliban abuses. is everyone from afghanistan liars, who state these things?

who says it i only hazars who are fleeing afghanistan,there are many more non hazaras who are fleeing.
matter of fact the hazara areas are some of the most peaceful,they get more jobs with foreign invaders and in the current governement they overly represented.
anyone can claim to be oppressed by the world famous taliban to stay in australia.

[ScimitarXEdge]

faye means during the Taliban era

[faye]

did anyone say hazaras are the only ones leaving afghanistan? i didn't notice that.
yes i understand goe, everyone who says something you can't incorporate into your bubble, is a liar.

[ScimitarXEdge]

isnt that like you those who deny the theory of evolution, i.e. creationists ct with evolution? just replace asylum with evolution.

[graveyardofempires]

did anyone say hazaras are the only ones leaving afghanistan? i didn't notice that.
yes i understand goe, everyone who says something you can't incorporate into your bubble, is a liar.

what is os hard for you ti understand that they are leaving due to other reasons and not the typical Taliban story?

[faye]

isnt that like you those who deny the theory of evolution, i.e. creationists ct with evolution? just replace asylum with evolution.

if you remember, i did state that i don't know that it is not true. i just don't believe it. so i don't flat out deny it. in fact it is a lovely myth, like many.

[ScimitarXEdge]

if you remember, i did state that i don't know that it is not true. i just don't believe it. so i don't flat out deny it. in fact it is a lovely myth, like many.

You're basically admitting you deny it .......blindly if I might add

[faye]

what is os hard for you ti understand that they are leaving due to other reasons and not the typical Taliban story?

what is so hard for you to understand that for people to just get up and leave the so called 'paradise' that you claim they live in, under taliban, that there is obviously some good/bad reason for them to do so. have you read or heard them tell of their experiences under taliban rule? have you read or heard what they endure to get to australia?

[faye]

You're basically admitting you deny it .......blindly if I might add

well i could say you blindly believe, as it is still only a theory, not an 'observable' fact, re; humans. the bones and sulls are fact and observable but not the 'evolving' as in, a to b to c, etc.

[ScimitarXEdge]

well i could say you blindly believe, as it is still only a theory, not an 'observable' fact, re; humans. the bones and sulls are fact and observable but not the 'evolving' as in, a to b to c, etc.

but I don't I believe it because they actually did work to demonstrate why it is real. I have explained to you time and time again that the scientific use of "Theory" is not the way it is used in common language. In Science theory means Principles , not guess. Like "Mathematical Theory" is not a "guess" of how mathematics works, it's a set of principles.

so no that wouldnt apply, it is observed, they actually have research where they demonstrate "look see this shows the species changed".

Blind belief is just believing something WITHOUT evidence.

[graveyardofempires]

what is so hard for you to understand that for people to just get up and leave the so called 'paradise' that you claim they live in, under taliban, that there is obviously some good/bad reason for them to do so. have you read or heard them tell of their experiences under taliban rule? have you read or heard what they endure to get to australia?

do you know any hazaras personally?
and what are you talking about taliban.
there is hardly taliban activity in hazara areas.
i never claimed they anyon is living under taliban or it is paradise like living "under taliban".

[faye]

the 'theory of evolution' is agreed upon by thousands of scientists and others who feed it to us commoners as fact.they still have lots of questions to answer, as i have read scientists saying and new discoveries keep turning up that change what they already have told us commoners is, the way it is. now just because you guys say 'it is fact' does that mean i just have to fall in line and bow at the feet of science, like yourself?

[ScimitarXEdge]

do you know any hazaras personally?
and what are you talking about taliban.
there is hardly taliban activity in hazara areas.
i never claimed they anyon is living under taliban or it is paradise like living "under taliban".

so are you saying that Taliban never ever delliberately targeted hazara civilians at all for whatever reason?

[graveyardofempires]

so are you saying that Taliban never ever delliberately targeted hazara civilians at all for whatever reason?

im saying thats he said she said and there is no proof but there is plenty of proof that masood and sayaf massacred hazaras in kabul in the early stages of civil war.By sayaf and masood i dont mean tajik and pashtun but shorayee nezar adn the sayaf group while hezbe wahdat i dont mean the hazars also done numerous crimes but you probably have never heard of it.

i dont know hazaras were deliberately targeted by taliban,there were even hazara taliban as we can SEE on that video.