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  • #31
    Well if the taliban are thanking wikilweaks it shows that the main body i.e. the head of the movement are not ISI agents. It shows that some amongst them that have infiltrated the group may be working with the ISI but like the video posted by one brother on here of a taliban interview, he clearly stated that involvement is related to 5%. so therefore you cant brand them all as ISI agents.

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    • #32
      No it shows they thought they could use Wikileaks as a useful tool until Wkileaks revealed stuff that exposed them

      remember the Wikileaks information about the Taliban--ISI connection came AFTER it released other U.S. cables

      but if the Taliban accept Wikileaks on one thing they released, how can they deny their credibility for other documents released by the same source?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
        actually we do know

        Wikileaks exposed that the Taliban are linked with the ISI

        WikiLeaks and the ISI-Taliban nexus | Peter Galbraith | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

        there is no conspiracy theory, it is verified fact now.

        No one is saying the Karzai is the proper alternative, but they are saying the Taliban probably do as much raping, looting, and murdering as any other warlord

        Just crap what comes out of you my beloved.
        High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
          actually we do know

          Wikileaks exposed that the Taliban are linked with the ISI

          WikiLeaks and the ISI-Taliban nexus | Peter Galbraith | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

          there is no conspiracy theory, it is verified fact now.

          No one is saying the Karzai is the proper alternative, but they are saying the Taliban probably do as much raping, looting, and murdering as any other warlord
          WHAT LIES? Are you not ashamed of yourself?

          Taliban arose to STOP women/girls getting raped you LIAR. Perverts like you were executed on a regular basis- it was an effective way of saying crimes will not be tolerated.

          If you disagree with their Sharia rule, thats one thing, but to outright LIE, that is what a filthy **** does. To LIE and blemish them when they in fact arose to stamp out crime and disorder by perverts like you- how low will you go?

          Afghans fight for Afghans. Do not insult them, and suggest they fight for Pakistan. Don't you dare do this while sitting and getting your rocks degree in the US OF A where you were born and raised. If you are going to support the US war against Afghanistan out of some fear of white vans, then just say it out loud rather then making a clown out of yourself, and LIE.


          You liar.
          Last edited by Guest; 09-04-2011, 08:00 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Niazi View Post
            Well if that happen it will be the end of Afghanistan as we know it. Afghanistan made of lots other ethnics group which most of them rather die fighting then live under them.
            Afghanistan is a Central Asian, Eurasiatic enity. Which is why it is important that Afghani Pukhtoons and Tajiks iron out their differences with Hazaras and Uzbeks.
            [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLflrGStfaY]Afghan Loghari dance- Homayoun Sakhi, Salar Nader & Mariam - YouTube[/url]

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            • #36
              The very few things which our dear friend from the land of camels, i.e., SE, is right about include the Taleban issue as well...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by AshrafGhaljay View Post
                WHAT LIES? Are you not ashamed of yourself?

                Taliban arose to STOP women/girls getting raped you LIAR. Perverts like you were executed on a regular basis- it was an effective way of saying crimes will not be tolerated.

                If you disagree with their Sharia rule, thats one thing, but to outright LIE, that is what a filthy **** does. To LIE and blemish them when they in fact arose to stamp out crime and disorder by perverts like you- how low will you go?

                Afghans fight for Afghans. Do not insult them, and suggest they fight for Pakistan. Don't you dare do this while sitting and getting your rocks degree in the US OF A where you were born and raised. If you are going to support the US war against Afghanistan out of some fear of white vans, then just say it out loud rather then making a clown out of yourself, and LIE.


                You liar.


                Actually calling their rule Shari'ah is actually an insult to Islam; their perverse corruption of Shariah is despicable.

                Lifting The Veil On Taliban Sex Slavery - TIME

                mud walls in a snowfield on the edge of Kabul. She wipes her tears with the edge of her grimy sweater as she recalls the day in August 1999 when the Taliban set fire to her home in the vineyards of the Shomali Plain and kidnapped her best friend, Nafiza. "The Taliban burst in with their guns and torches," says Shah Jan. "None of us even had time to put on our veils."
                With the women stripped of their burkas, it was a simple task for the Taliban invaders to cull the young beauties. Nafiza was one of them. Green-eyed, with raven-black hair that grazed her waist, Nafiza had rushed to help Shah Jan get her three kids out of the burning house. A Taliban fighter spotted the woman with the emerald eyes. She was his prize. With the butt of his AK-47 rifle, he slammed Nafiza into the dust and dragged her, crying and pleading, to the highway. There, Arabs and Pakistanis of al-Qaeda joined the Taliban to sort out the young women from the other villagers. One girl preferred suicide to slavery; she threw herself down a well. Nafiza and women from surrounding villages, numbering in the hundreds, were herded into trucks and buses. They were never seen again

                yeah it's all lies because it paints the Taliban negatively? Anything where the Taliban are moralless corrupt rapists like yourself (since you're a Pakistani slave and all), totally contradicting whatever they claimed to have stood for must be all lies right?

                These women were lying right?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                  Just crap what comes out of you my beloved.
                  go do a suicide bombing at Pakistani ISI headquarters and prove your cause.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                    The very few things which our dear friend from the land of camels, i.e., SE, is right about include the Taleban issue as well...
                    Just because am against the Taliban, doesn't mean I'm in favor of Sycophants of Wetern Imperialism where you offer yourself in service to white Imperialism Mister Tormakhamana

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                    • #40
                      TIMES magazine is well known to publish anti-Afghan/muslim propaganda

                      They also lied about Bibi Aisha, a proven lie when they attempted to tie her torture to the Taliban.
                      Last edited by Guest; 09-04-2011, 11:25 PM.

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                      • #41
                        oh stop using that excuse ......your credibility about sources is exposed today when you started using NYtimes, which is equally as hostile towards the Taliban

                        and stop saying people are Anti Afghan by being against Pakistani Slaves like the Taliban.

                        you're not going to distort the debate by making Taliban seem representative of Afghans, I already disproved that in the other thread.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                          go do a suicide bombing at Pakistani ISI headquarters and prove your cause.
                          It is already proven ...in karachi , lahore HQ (was filmed by phone video available on internet) , rawalpindhi.
                          High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                            It is already proven ...in karachi , lahore HQ (was filmed by phone video available on internet) , rawalpindhi.

                            I am saying YOU should do it, prove it to us you're a truly against the ISI and are a Taliban

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                            • #44

                              Lifting The Veil On Taliban Sex Slavery - TIME



                              These women were lying right?
                              Brother no Muslim would ever believe western propaganda. Even one of the great genius of western society Noam Chomsky has written many books in great detail exposing the media, press, magazines in relevance to the manipulation of information for their own evil purposes.

                              Another thing regarding that story that you have posted a link about.
                              What information did they have that they were the Taliban? The Taliban and the locals look the same, anyone can storm a house and claim they are the taliban. Rape, sexual assaults, murder, theft, fraud, corruption are all high in Afghanistan and that is why the Taliban emerged from this chaos.

                              Most kidnapping and rapes that take place are locals bandits and people connected to the warlords. The Taliban are concentrating on the western forces and therefore these bandits have taken advantage of this vacuum of law and order.

                              When the Taliban came to power they gave people the freedom of a new start except those who had committed great injustices i.e. murder, rape. so their days are numbered.

                              Most of the crime that took place in the past was at the hands of the northern alliance or do you disagree?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by AfghanResistance View Post
                                Brother no Muslim would ever believe western propaganda. Even one of the great genius of western society Noam Chomsky has written many books in great detail exposing the media, press, magazines in relevance to the manipulation of information for their own evil purposes.

                                a.) If that is true, why do the Taliban use wikileaks , a western source for information to kill Afghan civilians?

                                b.) You can't use that as a scapegoat; and just because the western media has lies; doesn't mean EVERYONE of them is lying

                                c.) Plus they're telling the stories of MUSLIM WOMEN. It's actually Muslim women who are telling this

                                are you saying Muslim women can't be trusted now too?

                                The Taliban and the locals look the same, anyone can storm a house and claim they are the taliban.
                                You can say that about everything, then Massoud didn't kill civilians, because the locals can't tell them apart.

                                The Locals know who are Taliban and who aren't; plus this happened in Shomali, the Taliban definitely look very distinct than the Shomalis.

                                Most kidnapping and rapes that take place are locals bandits and people connected to the warlords. The Taliban are concentrating on the western forces and therefore these bandits have taken advantage of this vacuum of law and order.
                                Didn't you read the article? This is what the Taliban were doing WHEN THEY were in power. Not recent .....how can you reject and comment on things when you don't even read what you're responding to?


                                Most of the crime that took place in the past was at the hands of the northern alliance or do you disagree?

                                Most of the crime was done by Northern Alliance and Taliban together.

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