They hate us

[ScimitarXEdge]

No, I do not promote enmity between anyone.

I promote self-consciousness of Pashtuns/Afghans and the ending to state of being exploited in proxy wars of others.

Regaining your dignitiy and freedom back is not "us vs. them".
It´s up-lifting yourself to the eye-level with others....not under them and not above them.

Being that Pashtuns used to rule Punjabis and dominate over them. The problem is really hurt ego than anything else. That our former under lyings now have somewhat of an upperhand.

If things were still in Pashtuns favor, Pashtuns today would be claiming it is God's Providence.

Please dont fool me with the hoaky "self conscuousness" argument.

We're not being thrown into proxy wars...there is a very legitimate civilizzational war going on, and it happens on legitimate premises.

America didnt attack because it was lured by Bin Laden, even if Bin Laden hypothetically "planned" the attack (ignoring alQaeda being CIA Black Ops for a moment). It attacked because it has a massively inflated ego and believes it can intrude with impunity for its own hegemonic conquest. The problem with America is the same as the Pashtun one; our hugely inflated arrogance, America coudn't bear with the fact that people they deemed their subordinate or inferiors, were able to get the upperhand on them or would dare attempt to slough their shackles; and such a thing is seen as a threat to its power structure.



It is ideological but at the same time it's based on real time foundations of their hegemonic seat trampling our planet. With or without Bin Laden, the battle had to be fought, This is a global war being fought; just some can't comprehend it because they're short sighted by their feigned pomp of identity

remember Mostafa ...us vs. them

[MostafaM]

You dont need to hate others to see the world as Dar Al Islam or Dar Al Kufr either

but you prove my point ...the "us and them" criticism is just a smokescreen to try to emotionally black mail others from taking legitimate action.

Pashtun identity isnt expansive in nature??? Tell that to Pashtun rulers who wanted non-Pashtuns to speak Pashto....doh

You mean like Ahmad Shah´s sons who made Kabul their capital, Farsi their language of court and were Farsi poets?

I see.....

By dividing the world into ideological blocks we create hatred towards those who are not part of our block. That´s obvious.

You can promote diversity without hating others.

Islamic ideology gets implemented to expand and to make us all Muslims.
It´s not promoting diversity and pluralism in it´s essence.

No one can deny that!

[MostafaM]

It is ideological but at the same time it's based on real time foundations of their hegemonic seat trampling our planet. With or without Bin Laden, the battle had to be fought, This is a global war being fought.

This is absolutly true!

This war can not be avoided.

Two ideas that claim to be omnipotent cannot coexist!

The question remains how much the Afghan people wanted that war to be fought on their expense. I am sure they weren´t that keen to be subject of another proxy war again....

[MostafaM]

here once again mr mostafa1919(only by name) has shown that he can never be a Pashtun.
why?
because he talks about ghairath as if he knows what that is,he should know it is not a ghairathi thing to call someone a pimp,unless...........

he thinks he is ghairathi for promoting invasion of Afghanistan and being a mouth piece of people who threaten Afghan independence.

he thinks he is so modern with his weird taste for music,while infact he is backward and barbaric supporting killing of Afghans just cuz they dont agree with his master.

Listen, Kunwaaz!

I discuss with people who have knowledge and stand for something.
Scimitar has something he can promote, he has a clear cut world view and it is productive to talk to him.

Bazengaraan like you and Ashraf can discuss with each other.
That´s not my business.

[Daruish]

I don't blame them, have you been to Bradford aka mini-Pakistan? It’s a Jungle. The Anglo-Pakistani are involved in running drug gangs, to prostitution gang.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/ju...rugsandalcohol

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-young-13.html




"'Asian' Men Raping British Girls and 'Grooming' Them for Sex Trade

You know right away when they use the term "Asian" in the headline that they're talking about Muslims. It's so obvious. If they were Chinese, Japanese or Filipino they'd be identified as such. But the politically-correct cowards in Britain can't even brings themselves to identify these ****bags for what they are.

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At a pristine house on the *outskirts of Derby, life is slowly getting back to some semblance of normality. The teenage girl living here is a college student who’s put photos of herself dancing and laughing with her friends on several social *networking websites.

A few miles away, another teenager, only a *little older at 18, won a prize last month for being an ‘inspirational’ student at her college. A third girl, a child of 14, has a loving mother who waves her off to a Derby school each morning from a terrace home with a manicured front garden and picket fence.

The three girls from decent families have, almost certainly, never met. Yet each has become caught up in what’s believed to be the biggest case of serial sex abuse ever uncovered in Britain. This week, nine men from Derby were jailed for a string of offences against these girls and 24 others whom they groomed for sex.

The gang — all but one of whom were Asian — roamed the streets in a BMW with blacked-out windows looking for girls. They plied them with vodka from bottles and plastic cups *hidden under the seats, before raping or *abusing them. They were not the only victims in Derby. Up to 100 girls may have been ensnared in this horror after being lured by the smartly-dressed gang into the car outside school gates, shops, *coffee bars near the city’s railway station and a local park.

Over weeks and months, the girls were taken to houses in Derby and other towns before being raped by the gang and their friends, some of whom paid the men in cash.

In rundown flats with mattresses on the floor, the girls were locked into rooms and turned into sex slaves. If they protested or refused, they were threatened with being beaten with a *hammer and even told they would be shot. The depraved sex acts were filmed on mobile phones and may have now been sold on through internet pornography sites.

As one of the girls, a 16-year old raped by the gang, said through tears this week: ‘They would take you out, buy you ice creams and a lovely, nice meal. There’s a part of you who thinks it’s really exciting: “I have met this lovely man.” You feel like they’re going to keep you safe. They then abuse every part of you.’

If this was a one-off, it would be deeply *troubling indeed. The reality is, it’s not. Many schoolgirls — one just eight — living in towns and cities all over the north of England are *falling prey to gangs who groom them to be sex slaves for themselves or other men.

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Even the law-abiding "Asians" find this PC nonsense to be out of control.

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But as Emma, a 21-year-old who eight years ago became a sex slave in another northern town and now counsels other victims, told the Mail recently: ‘The truth is, most men running the gangs in the north of England are Asians of Pakistani *origin. But very few of the authorities will say this.’

Instead, it has been left to some outstandingly brave members of the Muslim community, former MP Ann Cryer (who was roundly criticised for speaking her mind when seven years ago she said Asian gangs were *raping white girls) and a handful of the girl victims to highlight the reasons behind this deafening silence.

Mohammed Shafiq, director of the Lancashire-based Ramadhan Foundation, a charity working for peaceful harmony between different communities, has said: ‘I think the police are overcautious because they are afraid of being branded racist. These men are criminals and should be treated as criminals — whatever their race.’

In Derby this week, Shokat Lal, chairman of the city’s Pakistani Community Centre in the Normanton area — where many of the girls were taken to seedy flats and then sexually attacked by the gang – spoke out, too: ‘It is important that political correctness or fear of offending any particular group of people does not get in the way of protecting those who are vulnerable. "

[Daruish]

pull your head out of your ass kindly and try being realistic for a moment. the argument here is 'we are not all like that' not 'we are not like that at all'.

Muslim vs non-Muslim is a bull! Muslim do worst to Muslim then non-Muslim could ever will or wish too.

[Daruish]

we are different, they don't understand and we both feel threatened by each other's beliefs.

But that isn't the only way to live life..should i start cursing everyone here cuz they keep cursing at me, calling me napaki or that they call jinnah a dog or whatever..you have to learn to let go of this cycle of hate at one point and attempt to look at the reasons behind it

Jennah was worse then dog, he was alcohol drinker, pork eater who were fantasizing about "Islamic state" ---you see the problem?

[unknownprince]

mostafa, you never can debate with anyone because all you do is talk without facts.

I on the other hand, have shown facts, polls, reports, and such, showing that the Taliban enjoy a considerable amount of support throughout Afghanistan, and this is increasing. This support is due to the Afghans resentment of the US presence, and that of their stooges.

I have shown you facts. When I asked you to produce facts, you ran of like the jerk that you are

Regards,

[Daruish]

The Oslo massacre: Norway's anti-Muslim terrorist attack

The perpetrator of Oslo's twin massacres isn't an Islamist, as many suspected, but a homegrown extremist looking to strike a blow against Islam

posted on July 25, 2011, at 10:32 AM

Anders Behring Breivik was reportedly angry about the rise of multiculturalism in Norway, which led to Friday's deadly double attacks in Oslo. Photo: REUTERS/Scanpix Sweden/ SEE ALL 58 PHOTOS


Norwegian Anders Behring Breivik was formally charged Monday for back-to-back attacks in Norway that killed at least 93 people. Several news outlets had speculated that al Qaeda was behind the Friday bombing of a government building in downtown Oslo and shooting spree at a youth camp on the island of Utoya. But investigators say Breivik, who has confessed to the crimes, is driven not by sympathy for Islamists, but hatred of them. Here, a brief guide to the extremist, anti-Muslim tide that is rising in Norway and elsewhere in Europe:

Who is Anders Behring Breivik?
He's a 32-year-old nationalist angered by the rise of multiculturalism in Norway. In a 1,500-page manifesto posted online — under the pseudonym Andrew Berwick — hours before the attacks, he vents his rage against "cultural Marxism," Islam, and feminism in Europe. Investigators say Breivik had planned Friday's attacks for years, hoping to use them as a declaration of war against the "Islamization of Western Europe."

Is he just an isolated extremist?
No, Breivik's xenophobia is shared by extreme-right activists and politicians across the region. His anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant manifesto echoes "a sentiment you find in all European countries," said Thomas Hegghammer, of the Norwegian Defense Research Establishment in Oslo, as quoted in The Wall Street Journal. From Sweden to Italy, populist politicians have gained newfound power by lashing out against Muslim immigrants, whom they say cause crime and unemployment while rejecting Western values.

How bad is Norway's immigration problem?
Not bad at all. It welcomes far fewer immigrants than many other European countries. Though the conservative, populist Progress Party, which takes a hard line on any immigration, has doubled its membership in recent years, Norway still doesn't have a mainstream far-right political party, unlike other Scandinavian countries. And thanks in part to its oil wealth — Norway has a sovereign wealth fund worth $112,000 per citizen — Norway is one of the world's richest countries, with high wages and only 3.4 percent unemployment.

Is Breivik a member of the Progress Party?
He was, until 2007. In his manifesto, Breivik praises the Progress Party as "the only major political party in Norway that has voiced any serious opposition to the madness of Muslim immigration." (Progress Party officials harshly condemned the attacks, calling them "horrible and cowardly.") These days, Breivik says his only allegiance is as a "Justiciar Knight" in a re-founded Knights Templar group, the pan-European "Conservative Revolutionary Movements in Europe."

What did he allegedly hope to accomplish?
The manifesto says the group's purpose is to "seize political and military control of Western European countries and implement a cultural conservative political agenda." It advocates attacks against "traitors" — the youth camp where the massacre occurred was an annual gathering of young members of the liberal Labor Party. Breivik apparently believes that people with pro-immigrant politics are helping Muslims take over Europe. Breivik's lawyer, Geir Lippestad, says his client has "admitted his guilt to the actual facts," and has called his own actions "atrocious" but "necessary." Lippestad said Breivik was going to explain further in court, but the judge held a closed-door hearing to deny him the public platform he wanted.

What’s the difference between this guy and Taliban? He hates western culture allowing Muslim and Muslim influences and Taliban hate eastern culture allowing western and western influences. We have a saying in Farsi...Sag e zard Brother Shagal ast.
If people support Taliban and their lunacy then this guy has full right to cleanse their sociality from Muslim and easterners.

[unknownprince]

Muslim vs non-Muslim is a bull! Muslim do worst to Muslim then non-Muslim could ever will or wish too.

No, US has backed "Muslim" puppets like Hosni Mubarak, Saddam, and Qaddafi to oppress Muslims. They have even backed Bashar Al-Assad.

Best is that they leave.

They are the cause of all the global insecurity, and the sole barrier to peace and prosperity.

[Daruish]

weak disclaimer LOL

they are the terrorist crusaders, and need to get the message that Afghans are making clear.

GET OUT NOW

You get out of crusaders country NOW!!! Ahmaq!!!

[unknownprince]

[QUOTE=Daruish;495003]

What’s the difference between this guy and Taliban?

Taliban don't go to Europe and kill Europeans. They do not care about Europeans. They care only about Afghanistan, and want to end the US occupation.

He hates western culture allowing Muslim and Muslim influences and Taliban hate eastern culture allowing western and western influences.

The Taliban don't give a RATSSS ASSS about filthy Western culture LIKE YOU do. They, like all Afghans want Afghanistan to be free, and therefore OPPOSE and RESENT the US occupation. Take your Saleh slavery somewhere else. Ahmad Shah BABA founded the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, not some donkey Ahmad SHAW MASOODOVSKY

We have a saying in Farsi...Sag e zard Brother Shagal ast.

Keep your slavery to yourself. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan was founded by the late Amir-Al-Mumineen Ahmad Shah Baba, and not Ahmad SHAW MAsoodovsky OK?

If people support Taliban and their lunacy then this guy has full right to cleanse their sociality from Muslim and easterners.

There is a difference between being occupied and having a tolerant society. Taliban, just like most Afghans resent the US occupation. They will never tolerate it. Are you equating the Afghan resistance to the foreign occupation as being intolerant? LMAO LMAO

OMG, how RETARDED?

[unknownprince]

You get out of crusaders country NOW!!! Ahmaq!!!

You uneducated FOOL. This country belongs to the NATIVE AMERICANS, Australia belongs to the Aboriginals. Canada belongs to the NAtive Americans .

New Zealand belongs to NATIVES, not Anglo-Saxons.


Not your father, the pig. The pig is from Europe.

[faye]

the aboriginals and native americans didn't believe in ownership of land lol.

[unknownprince]

the aboriginals and native americans didn't believe in ownership of land lol.

WRONG,

NATIVE AMERICANS fought and died for their land, they sacrificed themselves for their land.

Stop trying to erase your guilt faye. And yes, the guilt belongs to you.