They hate us

[MostafaM]

my friend, if it is true, then he brought them to their death, utter death.

He used Afghanistan as a punching bag (which is detestable if true), but, in the end, he accomplished his goal.

Thats assuming it is even true.

They are finished for good. I don't how much news you need to read to realize this.

They are withdrawing for good, no strategic goals accomplished in Afghanistan, and even Iraq.

Thanks for admitting!

And what about Afghans, our suffering, our deaths, our casualties?

You son of a !"§$%&!

Mordagawan like you should fight this fight on your own ****in soil.....trap whoever you want in Saudi Arabia.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Every idea (ideology) that separates mankind in "us" and "them" uses the tools of fear and hate to rally masses around them......with a demagogue leading....

How many times have people been called "Communist", "Kafir" or "Traitor" by you, Ashraf?

Doesn´t Islam divide the world into the "House of War" (Dar-ul Harb) and "House of Peace" (Dar-ul Islam), a different form of "them" and "us".......

Not just every ideology ...every identity ...once you create an identity ..it becomes and Us vs. Them

"us" ..."pakhtun nationalists" vs. them ..."South Asian Muslims"

Even you have an US of "Afghanistan" and "my people" and Pakistan and "their people"

near enemy

[ScimitarXEdge]

Thanks for admitting!

And what about Afghans, our suffering, our deaths, our casualties?

You son of a !"§$%&!

Mordagawan like you should fight this fight on your own ****in soil.....trap whoever you want in Saudi Arabia.

us and them

[AFG21]

Thanks for admitting!

And what about Afghans, our suffering, our deaths, our casualties?

You son of a !"§$%&!

Mordagawan like you should fight this fight on your own ****in soil.....trap whoever you want in Saudi Arabia.

I totaly agree whith you, OBL have used Afghanistan for there own purpose. He just wanted to see the fall of US, and now the US is planing to built a permanent bases in Afghanistan. My familie who leaves in Afghanistan says that whitdrawl is totaal nonsence they are not gona leave. The are building new military facilities. Just visit Afghnanistan and you will see it for your self.

[graveyardofempires]

ignorance all over this place

[AFG21]

^ Yes indeed ignorance is everywhere :0

[MostafaM]

Not just every ideology ...every identity ...once you create an identity ..it becomes and Us vs. Them

"us" ..."pakhtun nationalists" vs. them ..."South Asian Muslims"

Even you have an US of "Afghanistan" and "my people" and Pakistan and "their people"

near enemy

That is utter nonsense!

You don´t need to hate others just because you love your own kind.

"A world where many worlds fit...." Never heard of that?


Pashtun identity is not expansive in nature nor does it deny diversity.

But if you piss Pashtuns off, you better run for cover!

[MostafaM]

us and them

No, I do not promote enmity between anyone.

I promote self-consciousness of Pashtuns/Afghans and the ending to state of being exploited in proxy wars of others.

Regaining your dignitiy and freedom back is not "us vs. them".
It´s up-lifting yourself to the eye-level with others....not under them and not above them.

[unknownprince]

Thanks for admitting!

And what about Afghans, our suffering, our deaths, our casualties?

You son of a !"§$%&!

Mordagawan like you should fight this fight on your own ****in soil.....trap whoever you want in Saudi Arabia.

son of Masoodovsky,

You are promoting war on Afghanistan here you stinker, you dont give a rats **** to Afghans sufferring, here you post promoting war against Afghanistan fool.

I did not admit anything. I just denied your claims. They are the biggest losers of the world. Don't be suprised if China takes over all of Europe and the US. They need land.

Impose occupation on yourself . Their war was to force occupation on Afghanistan. No one, not even their puppet is doing their bidding because he knows what will happen to him when he angers the Afghan nation- dog can't even be their dog anymore LOL

These PIGS have been waging war with the Muslim world for ages. Their era is over, era of evil and terror.

[MostafaM]

son of Masoodovsky,

You are promoting war on Afghanistan here you stinker, you dont give a rats **** to Afghans sufferring, here you post promoting war against Afghanistan fool.

I did not admit anything. I just denied your claims. They are the biggest losers of the world. Don't be suprised if China takes over all of Europe and the US. They need land.

Impose occupation on yourself . Their war was to force occupation on Afghanistan. No one, not even their puppet is doing their bidding because he knows what will happen to him when he angers the Afghan nation- dog can't even be their dog anymore LOL

These PIGS have been waging war with the Muslim world for ages. Their era is over, era of evil and terror.

Listen Heera Mendi ka Bachai!

I talk about Afghan politics with those who are Afghan, muslim, communist, Mutazila, Sunni or Shia, PDPA or Waffen-SS,.....not important to me. Afghans are my Afghans and I will settle my disputes with them.

You can cum-fart from your ass 24/7.
I and almost everyone, except for Graveyard Mordagoz, gives a damn about your Press-TV and FoxNews-style rants.

[graveyardofempires]

Listen Heera Mendi ka Bachai!

I talk about Afghan politics with those who are Afghan, muslim, communist, Mutazila, Sunni or Shia, PDPA or Waffen-SS,.....not important to me. Afghans are my Afghans and I will settle my disputes with them.

You can cum-fart from your ass 24/7.
I and almost everyone, except for Graveyard Mordagoz, gives a damn about your Press-TV and FoxNews-style rants.

now you have officially proved yourself to be a *******.

[graveyardofempires]

This mostafa1919 is a fraud,he speaks about Pashtuns as if he knows them but he doesnt and everything he says about Pashtuns is untrue.

according to this guy Pashtuns are seculerists who would band up with invaders of their country and commit acts of physical and sexual violance against their people.

he thinks Pashtuns are so dumb to believe that the representatives of Pashtuns who are resisting the foreign invasion are actually foreign invaders.

[MostafaM]

This mostafa1919 is a fraud,he speaks about Pashtuns as if he knows them but he doesnt and everything he says about Pashtuns is untrue.

according to this guy Pashtuns are seculerists who would band up with invaders of their country and commit acts of physical and sexual violance against their people.

he thinks Pashtuns are so dumb to believe that the representatives of Pashtuns who are resisting the foreign invasion are actually foreign invaders.

Where did I state these things?

You have failed to state that ALL Pashtuns want a theocracy Taliban-style.
You have failed to prove that Taliban are the "representatives" of Pashtuns.

You prove with every posting what a beghairat and benamoos pimp you are.

[graveyardofempires]

Where did I state these things?

You have failed to state that ALL Pashtuns want a theocracy Taliban-style.
You have failed to prove that Taliban are the "representatives" of Pashtuns.

You prove with every posting what a beghairat and benamoos pimp you are.

here once again mr mostafa1919(only by name) has shown that he can never be a Pashtun.
why?
because he talks about ghairath as if he knows what that is,he should know it is not a ghairathi thing to call someone a pimp,unless...........

he thinks he is ghairathi for promoting invasion of Afghanistan and being a mouth piece of people who threaten Afghan independence.

he thinks he is so modern with his weird taste for music,while infact he is backward and barbaric supporting killing of Afghans just cuz they dont agree with his master.

[ScimitarXEdge]

That is utter nonsense!

You don´t need to hate others just because you love your own kind.

"A world where many worlds fit...." Never heard of that?


Pashtun identity is not expansive in nature nor does it deny diversity.

But if you piss Pashtuns off, you better run for cover!

You dont need to hate others to see the world as Dar Al Islam or Dar Al Kufr either

but you prove my point ...the "us and them" criticism is just a smokescreen to try to emotionally black mail others from taking legitimate action.

Pashtun identity isnt expansive in nature??? Tell that to Pashtun rulers who wanted non-Pashtuns to speak Pashto....doh