What annoyed Obama about Mullah Omar

[MostafaM]

2: do you have any proof that afghans wer involved in those terrorist attacks?and how many Afghans ahev you killed so far?
Taliban get support from people of Afghanistan and muslims in general so whats your point?

3:no,you in your mind had established along with the failed afghan puppet to blame it on others and delegitimise the legitimate Afghan resistance by calling them foreign puppets while it is more than obvious who the puppets are.

i mean just look at the ramadan mubarak video of American army general,thats how it is all conducted.

you do something and before someone find out about it,blam it on the opposite party.

2. You are diverting the subject.
As far as I and the rest of the world know, no Afghan national was involved in those attacks. But Afghanistan was used as a training ground, as a harbour and as a save haven.

My point is, what are the strategic goals and interests of those "Muslims" who help the Taliban?
I mean, that help could go the same way to Palestine, Chechniya or Somalia, too. But it doesn´t....

3. What are the strategic goals and aims of those entities, who help the Taliban in Afghanistan?


I know that you two avoid these questions and will flood this thread with nonsense 24/7 but these two questions are crucial because they de-mask you.
You cannot jump up and down about Pashtunistan and at the same activly support the use of Pashtunistan as the save haven of world terrorism.

[unknownprince]

2: do you have any proof that afghans wer involved in those terrorist attacks?and how many Afghans ahev you killed so far?
Taliban get support from people of Afghanistan and muslims in general so whats your point?

3:no,you in your mind had established along with the failed afghan puppet to blame it on others and delegitimise the legitimate Afghan resistance by calling them foreign puppets while it is more than obvious who the puppets are.

i mean just look at the ramadan mubarak video of American army general,thats how it is all conducted.

you do something and before someone find out about it,blam it on the opposite party.

its all about denying the Afghan right to resist a foreign occupation. Whoever resists is wrong.

this is what he is saying.

[MostafaM]

They invaded Iraq, They invaded Vietnam, Korea, Iraq again. None of their wars are provoked. They had attacked Afghanistan even before the alleged 9/11, they fired rockets into Afghanistan.

You trying to justify occupation and war shows you are the biggest traitor to Afghanistan,.

This thread proves that this war is nothing about terrorism at all.

BTW, they fund and support American Blackwater terrorism.

They wanted to rule/install a puppet for the TAPI oil pipeline which mashAllah has failed hahaha.

Stop supporting invasion of your own country if it is even your country.

You mean the rockets in 1998?
I mean.....it´s not obvious that a military superpower would bomb training camps of Al Qaeda in Khost, Darunta etc. after they flatten two embassies of them in Africa?

This thread shows what a ISI-stooge you two are and argue under the disguise of Pashtunistan-here, Pashtunistan-there.

You fail to answer the questions why the Taliban are helped by the entities that I mentioned and what their strategic goals are because you wanna place yourself as the watanforosh that you are.

Your monkey-jumpings about the US occupation flood this whole forum, but the proxy army of your Arab and Paki masters who would occupy Afghanistan for their masters is ok.



It´s the same logic that the NA uses: Russian occupation bad, American occupation good.

If you distinguish between any foreign interference, then you expose yourself as the pimp that you are.

[unknownprince]

2. You are diverting the subject.
As far as I and the rest of the world know, no Afghan national was involved in those attacks. But Afghanistan was used as a training ground, as a harbour and as a save haven.

My point is, what are the strategic goals and interests of those "Muslims" who help the Taliban?
I mean, that help could go the same way to Palestine, Chechniya or Somalia, too. But it doesn´t....

3. What are the strategic goals and aims of those entities, who help the Taliban in Afghanistan?


I know that you two avoid these questions and will flood this thread with nonsense 24/7 but these two questions are crucial because they de-mask you.
You cannot jump up and down about Pashtunistan and at the same activly support the use of Pashtunistan as the save haven of world terrorism.

America, the UK, and Germany have been used as a staging ground to plan and support terrorist attacks on Afghans by night raids and airsrtikes?

The terrorism farce is just that- a false pretext.

Why did the US invade Iraq, 2 times? How about Vietnam? Korea?

Afghanistan is the same as the others. No one is buying your BS here.

No Afghan will tolerate foreign occupation. Is that clear to you?

[graveyardofempires]

2. You are diverting the subject.
As far as I and the rest of the world know, no Afghan national was involved in those attacks. But Afghanistan was used as a training ground, as a harbour and as a save haven.

My point is, what are the strategic goals and interests of those "Muslims" who help the Taliban?
I mean, that help could go the same way to Palestine, Chechniya or Somalia, too. But it doesn´t....

3. What are the strategic goals and aims of those entities, who help the Taliban in Afghanistan?


I know that you two avoid these questions and will flood this thread with nonsense 24/7 but these two questions are crucial because they de-mask you.
You cannot jump up and down about Pashtunistan and at the same activly support the use of Pashtunistan as the save haven of world terrorism.

like i said you are wasting my time and its ramadan.
i would loe to indulge with you in your ignorance but i have no mode wasting my time on you or your questions.
if you want to be an ignorant person than be that just dont expect us Afghasn to follow your ignorance and clap along with you.

[MostafaM]

America, the UK, and Germany have been used as a staging ground to plan and support terrorist attacks on Afghans by night raids and airsrtikes?

The terrorism farce is just that- a false pretext.

Why did the US invade Iraq, 2 times? How about Vietnam? Korea?

Afghanistan is the same as the others. No one is buying your BS here.

No Afghan will tolerate foreign occupation. Is that clear to you?

Ira: Oil

Vietnam and Korea: Cold war containment policy and pushing back communist lead regimes

Afghanistan: 9/11, Al Qaida and the rest of bearded gangs across the world training in Afghanistan

If no one tolerates occupation which I strongly believe is the case, then they will not tolerate your Taliban pimp-brigades which sell their women to Arabs who come to Afghanistan to buy a cheap woman, too.

Stop being a "dead cow"!

[MostafaM]

like i said you are wasting my time and its ramadan.
i would loe to indulge with you in your ignorance but i have no mode wasting my time on you or your questions.
if you want to be an ignorant person than be that just dont expect us Afghasn to follow your ignorance and clap along with you.

I got ya!

[graveyardofempires]

I got ya!

see if that makes you happy ,its good for you just dont expect that to be true like all of your beliefs.

[unknownprince]

They are trying to impose OCCUPATION, nothing else

What annoyed Obama about Mullah Omar

What annoyed Obama about Mullah Omar - Indian Punchline


By M K Bhadrakumar – July 31, 2011




What really prompted US president Barack Obama to change his mind and to allow himself at the last minute to be persuaded by his military commanders to opt for the ’surge’ in Afghanistan in end-2009 is crucial to understanding the current status of the war and its likely future trajectory. Among Obama’s inner circle, Vice-president Joe Biden was reportedly pitching against the ’surge’ at that time. The former Afghan PM Ahmad Shah Ahmadzai has now revealed what prompted the US ’surge’. ASA is a credible source, having been close to Burhanuddin Rabbani, Rasul Sayyaf in the Mujahideen government (where he served as PM along with Ahmed Shah Massoud as Defence Minister before fleeing for Turkey where he lived in exile during the Taliban regime.)
That ASA was the intermediary between the Americans and the Taliban in 2009 shows the wheels-within-wheels, as it were. (ASA did his graduate studies in the US; he lived in exile in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.) According to ASA, the main sticking point between the US and Taliban in the 2009 talks was that Mullah Omar was stubbornly opposed to the US request to allow permanent military bases in Afghanistan in a post-settlement era. Taliban was willing to compromise on other issues but when it came to the US bases, Omar was tough as nail. He apparently took the stance that “not one metre” of Afghan soil could come under foreign occupation. Interestingly, Omar was willing to negotiate the date of US withdrawal from Afghanistan and was prepared to be flexible on the actual date of withdrawal, but the US troops simply had to vacate at some point.
What emerges is that the Pentagon top brass decided to bleed the Taliban for its ‘obduracy’ apropos the US military bases, based on a strategy to weaken them and somehow compel them to compromise on the question of the permanent US military bases. Thus was born the ’surge’ strategy — make one big push to degrade the Taliban militarily before negotiating. So, looking back, when the Anglo-American thesis of the ‘good Taliban-bad-Taliban’ was shoved down the throat of countries like India at the the London conference in January 2010, Richard Holbrooke and Hillary Clinton indeed had a wholesome game plan. Alas, Indian diplomacy has been naive and continued to be enthusiastic about the ’surge’.
It stands to reason that there was some major intelligence failure and Delhi had no clue to what was really going on. Maybe it isn’t late even today for someone to talk with interlocutors like ASA and try to piece it all together. Unless we know reliably well what transpired between the US and the Taliban, how would we comprehend what is going to unfold in the coming period? Unsurprisingly, the US continues to keep us ‘briefed’ selectively on a need-to-know basis. Special Representative Marc Grossman visited Delhi just once. He is setting out again on a regional tour that will take him to Pakistan and the Central Asian region (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Turkmenistan). India remains a bystander. All this happened primarily because our diplomats chose to work as the ‘B Team’ of the American embassy in Kabul through the past decade since the ouster of the Taliban regime in 2001 and we didn’t diversify our contacts with the Afghan political elites and other regional powers.


Posted in Military, Politics.
Tagged with Ahmad Shah Ahmadzai, Marc Grossman, Richard Holbrooke, Taliban, US 'surge' in Afghanistan.
By M K Bhadrakumar – July 31, 2011

READ, why is Obama angry with Mullah Omar? Because Mullah Omar will not tolerate US occupation of the country, like any other Afghan. Thats ALL.

back to the OP, the war is about trying to kill all Afghans who resist, and trying to force occupation on Afghan people.

No Afghan will tolerate it.

Any Karzai crap who thinks of anything is playing with fire, and he knows this very well haha

Does he want to be Najib, strung up on a pole? Does he want to be Wali or Daud Daud?

This is war to kill Pashtuns, and the Pashtuns are winning and defending Afghanistan.

as always, as history shows, as the present and the future shows.

[unknownprince]

Alleged domestic NA soldier



Alleged foreign proxy soldier



I guess Mostafa is right. The Afghans are stupid to support the alleged foreigners proxies, they should be smart and support the alleged domestic NA soldiers.

khushal pointed it out well. He wants us to think like this. His words change like the weather from denying natural resistance to then supporting war against Afghanistan outright.

LMAO...

[ScimitarXEdge]

Ira: Oil

Vietnam and Korea: Cold war containment policy and pushing back communist lead regimes

Afghanistan: 9/11, Al Qaida and the rest of bearded gangs across the world training in Afghanistan

If no one tolerates occupation which I strongly believe is the case, then they will not tolerate your Taliban pimp-brigades which sell their women to Arabs who come to Afghanistan to buy a cheap woman, too.

Stop being a "dead cow"!

now you're being a tad sensationalistic.

[MostafaM]

now you're being a tad sensationalistic.

I apologize!

[unknownprince]

that Mullah Omar was stubbornly opposed to the US request to allow permanent military bases in Afghanistan in a post-settlement era. Taliban was willing to compromise on other issues but when it came to the US bases, Omar was tough as nail. He apparently took the stance that “not one metre” of Afghan soil could come under foreign occupation.

bump

[MostafaM]

bump

Many people have played the "patriotic card".....even ex-KHADists and murderers like Najib.

‪Dr najibullahs speech about Pakistan‬‏ - YouTube


So what?

[unknownprince]

umm, except Najib and KHAD supported the Russian occupation of Afghanistan--- there is no frikin comparison you moron.