President. Najibullah

[Zahed]

he had no where to flee. russia wanted to be rid of the afghan situation, europe or the US wouldnt take him in. even when kabul was being destroyed, he was comfy in his UN safe house. if he knew what was coming to him, he would of piggybacked on massoud, non muslims like him fear death.

if USSR wanted to get rid of AFG situation they wouldnt 've situated USSR friendly govt in first place. by Massoud he was requested several times to flee Kabul 'n if every other mujahideen 'n communist could flee Kabul back then there were no lashes attached to Najib's legs to do the same. all the bs that Najib only stayed back 'cause he thought his fellow Pashtoons wouldnt harm him is simply ridiculous 'cause he knew very well what Talibs came for 'n where the Talibs came from.

[ScimitarXEdge]

same could be said about Najib. it was him who'd warned of the disaster Pakii 'n American influence can leave on AFG 'n since his predictions were right even I could say such a honourable and gracious man certainly is no shaitan. 'n about evil people meeting their evil fate, when's Arab culture imposers' turn??

well your claim arab culture is imposed is a lie; but even if it was true, better to have Arab culture than Russian or Farangay culture, as slaves of Farangayan who are usually defenders of Najib would advocate.

What you confuse as Arab culture is actually Pashtun culture but you have become so lost with Farangays you forgot what it is.

[IamDZJ]

That's riiiight... You're not pashtana... So you're not afghan either because that name is the right of the Pakhtuns not yours. You are khorasani farsibaan. That is why you are albani. Don't worry lema haz of Kitchener... You can keep playing make believe

who put you in charge of deciding that for me? afghanistan was khorasan at a time so yes i am a khurasani. i am as proud of dari as i am of pashtu or any other languange spoken in my country so kiss a stove.

Hitler was a very good speaker. Doesn't mean he would be better than the current government.

he was a good leader. he knew how to get work done and control his people. respect gets a governments no where as people will never be content with what the government provides them with so fear is a very important weapon. he would have still made a difference and a name for himself had he not wasted his life by focusing on exterminating jews.

[Haris]

who put you in charge of deciding that for me? afghanistan was khorasan at a time so yes i am a khurasani. i am as proud of dari as i am of pashtu or any other languange spoken in my country so kiss a stove.

he was a good leader. he knew how to get work done and control his people. respect gets a governments no where as people will never be content with what the government provides them with so fear is a very important weapon. he would have still made a difference and a name for himself had he not wasted his life by focusing on exterminating jews.

Well that's my point.
He turned the German economy around and created an infrastructure unparalleled. Germany prospered under him.....


but the fact that he did indeed kill millions negates what good he did. People remember him for his crimes, not what he did for his country. The same can be said of Najibullah.


So would you prefer Hitler or Najibullah over Karzai? No of course you wouldn't unless you don't mind destroying large numbers of people to achieve your goals.....

[Zahed]

well your claim arab culture is imposed is a lie; but even if it was true, better to have Arab culture than Russian or Farangay culture, as slaves of Farangayan who are usually defenders of Najib would advocate. What you confuse as Arab culture is actually Pashtun culture but you have become so lost with Farangays you forgot what it is.

why is it a lie?? arent Arabs as foreign to us as 're Rusians or Americans? if u can slaves of Arabs then why no slaves of Najib? 'n Pashtunwali might 've decreased in many Pashtoon areas but ur Arabwali 'll forever hunt Afghanistan 'n rest of Asia where Islam is followed.

[ScimitarXEdge]

why is it a lie?? arent Arabs as foreign to us as 're Rusians or Americans? if u can slaves of Arabs then why no slaves of Najib? 'n Pashtunwali might 've decreased in many Pashtoon areas but ur Arabwali 'll forever hunt Afghanistan 'n rest of Asia where Islam is followed.

Arabs are foreign but we have had relations with them for over 1000 years so their bond with us is strong. Our cultures are very similar and that is proven by that fact many rules of Pashtunwali are also in Arab society as well. Pashtunwali is very much alive you just got confused by these farangays who are using you as their toy. The rules of Pashtunwali are the same as they always were before Arabs came to Afghanistan in the 80's.

So it's better to be friends with people who are like us like the Arabs than people who are nothing like us like the Farangays or Russians

but if you're their slave and become their servant, then I guess you'll say otherwise.

[Gulbabo]

he did many bad things in his life and his time during khad... but the last chapter of his life left a mark on our history, and it hinted towards his patriotism to Afghanistan.

[ScimitarXEdge]

hints towards patriotism .....while he was taking orders from Russia and most of the mainstream information indicate that he was still under supervision from Moscow until Moscow abandoned him in the wake of the civil war, demonstrate that these "hints" are nothing but a Pretentious show.

People who try to exonerate Najibullah as a patriot are the same traitors who live as slaves for farangyan

[IamDZJ]

Well that's my point.
He turned the German economy around and created an infrastructure unparalleled. Germany prospered under him.....


but the fact that he did indeed kill millions negates what good he did. People remember him for his crimes, not what he did for his country. The same can be said of Najibullah.


So would you prefer Hitler or Najibullah over Karzai? No of course you wouldn't unless you don't mind destroying large numbers of people to achieve your goals.....

i would. i wouldn't mind him killing that amount of people either. just the type that refuse to change their way of thinking and are often out to create friction between people. i am more than sure that there would be others who will not see it how i do. no matter how thin you slice it, there is always two sides. watching afghanistan and the war has become extremely frustrating. no one is winning, no one is losing.

[Zahed]

Arabs are foreign but we have had relations with them for over 1000 years so their bond with us is strong. Our cultures are very similar and that is proven by that fact many rules of Pashtunwali are also in Arab society as well. Pashtunwali is very much alive you just got confused by these farangays who are using you as their toy. The rules of Pashtunwali are the same as they always were before Arabs came to Afghanistan in the 80's.

So it's better to be friends with people who are like us like the Arabs than people who are nothing like us like the Farangays or Russians

but if you're their slave and become their servant, then I guess you'll say otherwise.

Arabs invaded our lands over 1000 yrs ago 'n back then we had nothin' in common with u. 'n countries who 're like us 're much more of a enemy then Russians or anyone else. may it be Pakiiland or Iran or even Saudi rich filth ****s. dont try to portray urself less of an invader in name of honour 'n women protection while imposing ur culture u urself 're known for exploiters of poor women

[khushal]

Arabs are foreign but we have had relations with them for over 1000 years so their bond with us is strong. Our cultures are very similar and that is proven by that fact many rules of Pashtunwali are also in Arab society as well. Pashtunwali is very much alive you just got confused by these farangays who are using you as their toy. The rules of Pashtunwali are the same as they always were before Arabs came to Afghanistan in the 80's.

So it's better to be friends with people who are like us like the Arabs than people who are nothing like us like the Farangays or Russians

but if you're their slave and become their servant, then I guess you'll say otherwise.

You are correct. These others don't understand anything about Afghanistan that is why their ideas keep failing. Pashtunwali is very well alive and at full speed in Pashtunland. It is pashtunwali that protected Osama from the world and it is Pashtunwali that is punishing the Americans.

What most of these people that don't understand is history. When the Arabs first came to Afghanistan, they did not pillage or rape the people of Afghanistan but in fact elevated the society. When the European first came to Afghanistan, they did nothing but pillage and rape the country depressing the society. These feeling still are very well alive in the psyche of the common afghan. The Americans and the Soviets are the same as the British as far as the common Afghan is concerned. This is the main reason that the Arabs are welcomed as brothers and the European are shunned as enemies.

[khushal]

he did many bad things in his life and his time during khad... but the last chapter of his life left a mark on our history, and it hinted towards his patriotism to Afghanistan.

What are you talking about. his stupidity turned the country upside down. The Afghan government collapsed, the army split because of him. His policies caused the ethnic killing that happened because of the government collapsing.

[khushal]

Arabs invaded our lands over 1000 yrs ago 'n back then we had nothin' in common with u. 'n countries who 're like us 're much more of a enemy then Russians or anyone else. may it be Pakiiland or Iran or even Saudi rich filth ****s. dont try to portray urself less of an invader in name of honour 'n women protection while imposing ur culture u urself 're known for exploiters of poor women

You are naive. The Afghans had more of an impact on the Arab world than the Arabs had on Afghanistan.

Here is an excerpt from a book "The Arabs" by Eugene Rogen:
http://books.google.com/books?id=DAa...nistan&f=false

The Arab volunteers did not make much of an impact in the afghan war against the Soviet Union. In retrosprect, Abdullah Anas declared that the Arab contribution to the afghan war amounted to no more than "a drop in the ocean." The group of volunteers who came to be known as the "afghan arabs" probably never exceeded a maximum of two thousand men, and of those, "only a very small proportion entered Afghanistan and took part in the fighting with the majahideen." Anas claimed the remainder stayed in Peshawar and volunteered their services "as doctors and drivers, cooks and accountants and engineers."
Yet the Afghan Jihad had an enduring influence over the arab world. Many of those who answered the call to jihad returned to their native lands intent on realizing the ideal islamic order that had inspired them in Afghanistan. Anas estimated some 300 Algerian volunteers served in Afghanistan, many of them would return home to play an active part in a new Islamist political party, "The Islamic Salvation Front".


Many Arabs tell me that it is because of Afghans that they have much "terrorism" in Arab land. Like those Arabs, you have been brainwashed to believe in ideas that only divide and rule. "Terrorism" or "resistance" what ever you want to call it is a reaction to European Imperialism. It is only natural for people to resist any imperialistic powers like it or not.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Arabs invaded our lands over 1000 yrs ago 'n back then we had nothin' in common with u. 'n countries who 're like us 're much more of a enemy then Russians or anyone else. may it be Pakiiland or Iran or even Saudi rich filth ****s. dont try to portray urself less of an invader in name of honour 'n women protection while imposing ur culture u urself 're known for exploiters of poor women

Nothing in common with me? I'm Pashtun, from my father's side, so you had plenty of common with me, you on the other hand have adopted the Farangay way of thinking, what in common you have with Pashtuns? . But I get your point; you perceive things as the "the Arabs invaded"; but those Arabs you claim had invadeddidn't do so for the sake of being Arab, because Arabs themselves were originally not Muslim and Muslims defeated the Arabs who weren't Muslims. It was for values, universal values which is fundamental for human life that the Muslims invaded. And that is why we're all Muslims today. And that is why Arabs, Pashtuns , Iranians, Pakistanis, as people, not the Puppet Governments share more in common. And therefore foreigners who are like us share bonds based on having similar culture. Ghairat for Pashtuns is same for Arabs. Where is Ghairat in Russia or America? or any of the Polluted Farangayan you worship?

even with any problems we have had with Iran, Pakistan or Saudis, they never killed 1.5 Million Afghans, the Russians did. The tension we see with Pakistanis, Iranians and Saudis is fighting amongst brothers, just like Tribes of Pashtuns do with each other.

The fighting we have with Russia or Corrupt Shallow Imperialism from Materialistic societies .....is fighting against people who's values in opposition to our own. That's the difference.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Khushal, Zahed is blind

even before the Soviet Invasion, Sayyid Jamaluddin Al Afghani, went from Afghanistan to the rest of the world to revive the consciousness of Islamic Civilization, all the modern Islamic Movements of the Arabs are inspired by the Afghan Jamaluddin.

These artificial lines drawn by Zahed are just fabrications to infiltrate Muslims , the farangayan trying to divide and rule.