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  • #31
    Originally posted by inqilab View Post
    Absolutely i agree. i was a little confused about your statement you made to maseed

    I must have misunderstood, but to me what you were saying is that nwfp belongs to afghanistan. This is why i asked where did you get this claim from since the indigenous people still live in pashtunkhwa. It would not make a difference if that land is under present day afghanistan or pakistan. The people who are from there are still inhabiting it.

    Just like waziristan, the people still own that land, it would not make a difference if on claims it to be afghanistan or pakistan.
    Inqilab,

    One should not judge a person based on a few forum posts,nobody can extensively explain every prespective or aspect of their stance on a forum or a lunch time discussion. I am sure we both agree on that?

    History, wisdom and collective human experience dictates that good plans must always have a plan B. Alternative or contingency planning is critical for any emerging enterprise, while our ultimate aim is to the establish the Hukm of Allah swt in form of a caliphate our plan B or contingency should be the establishment of Loy Afghanistan. If for unforseen reasons we fail to establish caliphate then we should reclaim our land and form Loy Afghanistan in the light of Islamic Shariah law for the following reason:

    1. To emancipate our people from entanglements and cruelity of Qadiyani led pro British Pakistani government, bringing all Pashtuns under a single roof in effect eradicating all prospects of conflict of interest.
    2. To unify our people in order to safeguard our domestic and regional interests.
    3. To regain and establish direct routes to international waters which is essential for our economic prosperity.
    Last edited by akbarkhan; 05-25-2010, 09:20 AM.
    O'faithful hearken thy vezir, for he promises them another Gandamak and for the ancestors of Hari Nalwa a similar fate has been sealed. We shall shake the foundations of their inner sanctums, written in gold and immortal will remain this endeavor of Afghans.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by StrategistMaseed View Post
      Well..If its under Afghanistan, Smarty pants, then Waziristan wont be ruled by FCR and being neglected and turned into a hell hole full of Crazy nuttjob Talibans and other NON PASHTUN militants.

      I understand, Since you Wazir, you love Pakistan, Since Pakistan has done alot for Wazirs.

      But please, why do you want to spread Pro Pakistani Taliban policies here?

      We understand you love Pakistan and so does your Emir Saab, but why tell us here, just be str8 with us all.
      lol Mr genius turban we are talking about under shariah. Fcr will not exist, neither will afghanistan or pakistan. So there will be no claims of land for either of the two. The borders will not exist. Every unislamic law will be demolished.

      So the claim of pashtunkhwa belongs to afghanistan is just absurd. A muslim from, lets say qandahar, will be able to travel freely to delhi or islamabad without being asked for a visa or papers.
      Last edited by Guest; 05-25-2010, 02:47 PM.

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      • #33
        We have that type of people on both sides, these people do not represent Pashtuns or Tajiks. They are rather a very small number of people who are planted in our communities by imperial regimes to divide and conquer us. Because they are given access to media, they have a louder voice hence we are tricked into thinking that the vast number of these communities bad mouth each other. That is completely untrue.

        As a result of such underhanded schemes and design, some of our common people start having prejudices about other ethnicities and that is exactly what imperial powers want.

        To tackle this issue we must educate our people about the word of Allah swt and the traditions of the Prophet peace and blessings be upon him and his family. Islam tackles this issue categorically, instead of asking mere human beings for solutions we must go back to the source of all perfect solutions - the word of Allah swt and the commandments therein.

        I know there are some staunch racist on both sides of the spectrum, these should be dealt with in the same way that you deal with germs.
        Last edited by akbarkhan; 05-25-2010, 03:22 PM.
        O'faithful hearken thy vezir, for he promises them another Gandamak and for the ancestors of Hari Nalwa a similar fate has been sealed. We shall shake the foundations of their inner sanctums, written in gold and immortal will remain this endeavor of Afghans.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by inqilab View Post
          lol Mr genius turban we are talking about under shariah. Fcr will not exist, neither will afghanistan or pakistan. So there will be no claims of land for either of the two. The borders will not exist. Every unislamic law will be demolished.

          So the claim of pashtunkhwa belongs to afghanistan is just absurd. A muslim from, lets say qandahar, will be able to travel freely to delhi or islamabad without being asked for a visa or papers.
          Afghanistan also stood for a historical region. So even if the khilaafa is established your region will be pashtunkhwa-afghanistan, but under the khilaafa. You are just muddling things up.

          BTW don`t waste my time by calling me a anp or communists, I am none of the two :-).
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          • #35
            Originally posted by inqilab View Post
            lol Mr genius turban we are talking about under shariah. Fcr will not exist, neither will afghanistan or pakistan. So there will be no claims of land for either of the two. The borders will not exist. Every unislamic law will be demolished.

            So the claim of pashtunkhwa belongs to afghanistan is just absurd. A muslim from, lets say qandahar, will be able to travel freely to delhi or islamabad without being asked for a visa or papers.

            Goes to show your level of knowledge. All you do is bring up illogical ideas and when opposed reasonable, you insult people and call them ANP, nationalists, communits or kaffirs. Ive never seen such fantasy in my life. And the same Taliban are going to acheive this, the Same taliban who cant live without ISI.

            Iam starting to feel pity for you.

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            • #36
              Dear sister,

              Please do accept my apologies for having to quote Mahatma Gandhi (am not a big fan of him as he was a tool of colonial Britain) but I am going to have to quote him because there is some wisdom in it.

              "Be the change you want to see in the world". Start from yourself, be the change that you want to see in your people. If you want your people to be educated then pursue education and promote it. If you want to kick out the invaders help your people understand who their sworn enemies are.

              If you want to keep Pakistan, India and Iran in check then spread the word, waken up your brethren and open their eyes to the realities that surround them. In this journey there isn't much delight but if you spark a single brain, you have done your job. You never know, that single brain that you have sparked could be the next Ahmad Shah Baba, Mahmod Ghaznavi, Amir Akbar Khan or Malalai.

              The racist thugs amongst Pashtuns and Tajiks can not even be classified as minority, they are only a handful.
              O'faithful hearken thy vezir, for he promises them another Gandamak and for the ancestors of Hari Nalwa a similar fate has been sealed. We shall shake the foundations of their inner sanctums, written in gold and immortal will remain this endeavor of Afghans.

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              • #37
                Who says Pashto is banned in Kabul? I am aware about the presence of some racist Tajiks in the current fostered government of Kabul. The majority of these people are ex-communists (Parchami) and Sholaites who are dancing to Iranian beats, but none of my contacts have ever reported 'pashto is banned in kabul'.

                We shouldn't be worried about recognition, after all we represent almost 60% of the population.
                O'faithful hearken thy vezir, for he promises them another Gandamak and for the ancestors of Hari Nalwa a similar fate has been sealed. We shall shake the foundations of their inner sanctums, written in gold and immortal will remain this endeavor of Afghans.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                  Afghanistan also stood for a historical region. So even if the khilaafa is established your region will be pashtunkhwa-afghanistan, but under the khilaafa. You are just muddling things up.

                  BTW don`t waste my time by calling me a anp or communists, I am none of the two :-).
                  Historical, that would be Greater Khorasaan region spanning north-eastern Iran, north-western Afghanistan, and southern parts of Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. And I estimate it was Babur who first coined the term Afghanistan in his memoirs.

                  Come what may, I believe he was referring to Ahkaam al-Shu'fa and not in the historical context.
                  Last edited by Guest; 05-25-2010, 08:49 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by StrategistMaseed View Post
                    Goes to show your level of knowledge. All you do is bring up illogical ideas and when opposed reasonable, you insult people and call them ANP, nationalists, communits or kaffirs. Ive never seen such fantasy in my life. And the same Taliban are going to acheive this, the Same taliban who cant live without ISI.

                    Iam starting to feel pity for you.
                    What's so illogical about it? He simply said how can you claim a land that we already live on. Is that illogical? If you believe so, please check yourself into the nearest psychiatric hospital.

                    Many thanks

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                    • #40
                      Some 'Afghan National Army' thugs who hail from Northern Crooked Alliance hold Pashto in contempt - they will be dealt with accordingly.

                      Learn Pashto literature and translate beneficial subjects from English to Pashto i.e Physics, Chemistry, Medicine etc
                      O'faithful hearken thy vezir, for he promises them another Gandamak and for the ancestors of Hari Nalwa a similar fate has been sealed. We shall shake the foundations of their inner sanctums, written in gold and immortal will remain this endeavor of Afghans.

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                      • #41
                        We are a failed and broken a state, our condition is dire, our economy is shambles and our sovereignty is non-existent! If anything can fix our broken society, it is the Shariah law. If anything can unite our people and safeguard the future of our children it is practical Islam. So away with plutocracy, oligarchy and secularism which like the government of Pakistan is rotten, vile and quite simply parasitic!

                        Shariah law will ensure national solidarity which is the essential ingredient for a prosperous Afghanistan.
                        Last edited by akbarkhan; 05-25-2010, 11:48 PM.
                        O'faithful hearken thy vezir, for he promises them another Gandamak and for the ancestors of Hari Nalwa a similar fate has been sealed. We shall shake the foundations of their inner sanctums, written in gold and immortal will remain this endeavor of Afghans.

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                        • #42
                          Mohammad pbuh has said that a good Muslim does not desire to lead as it entails alot of responsibility and accountability. When pious Muslim is asked to become a leader, he is reluctant.

                          If you read about Mehdi, you will realize that when Mehdi comes, people ask him to lead the Muslims but he refuses, but then people keep on insisting and then he agrees.
                          O'faithful hearken thy vezir, for he promises them another Gandamak and for the ancestors of Hari Nalwa a similar fate has been sealed. We shall shake the foundations of their inner sanctums, written in gold and immortal will remain this endeavor of Afghans.

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                          • #43
                            Well, as he said, a Real pios Muslim would reject leadership.

                            So i guess, thats in other words, pashtuns should never be led, but it seems alright to be led by the likes of Mullah Omar, Alqueda and Arab fanatics.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Mutakhasis View Post
                              What's so illogical about it? He simply said how can you claim a land that we already live on. Is that illogical? If you believe so, please check yourself into the nearest psychiatric hospital.

                              Many thanks
                              Psychiatric Hospital?

                              Well...If your eyes cant see, there is a country called Pakistan who has claimed on the land and the people are its slaves. If you cant see this, then maybe you need to see a optician and get some glasses.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Mutakhasis View Post
                                Historical, that would be Greater Khorasaan region spanning north-eastern Iran, north-western Afghanistan, and southern parts of Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. And I estimate it was Babur who first coined the term Afghanistan in his memoirs.

                                Come what may, I believe he was referring to Ahkaam al-Shu'fa and not in the historical context.

                                Again with the Anti Afghanistan comments

                                Buddy, How much ISI propaghanda have you listened to in your Madrasah in Angoor Adda?

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