Questions about Afghanistan and Pashtun affairs

[akbarkhan]

1)Do you consider all Pashtuns as Afghans?Why.

All Pashtuns are Afghans, even ancient greek geographer and historian Strabo have documented this.

2)Why are we in a such big hole? Why are we do self-destructing? Why are our leaders so horrible?

There are many reasons behind our down fall. In short, we find ourselves in this dire situation because we have mixed our culture with Islam. We are gullible and we don't take calculated steps hence we have exposed ourselves to hostile elements in the region and abroad. Furthermore, our youth are more interested in Hindi cinema and music when they should be studying science and Islam.

We are tribalist, everyone says there own tribe is better than the other - the British and other imperial powers are using this to divide and conquer us.

3)Pashto and Dari is dividing us, Should we change it to English?

It is made to look like Pashto and Dari is dividing us. We have racist elements in Pashtuns and then we have racist elements in Tajiks. These racist people represent a very insignificant portion of these communities, but the British and their allies make it look like its a big portion hence instigating internal strife amongst us - which in effect weakens us and empowers them to conquer us. The racist elements on both sides should be dealt with immediately.

4)What do you think of Pakistan,Iran and India. Who do we choose and why?

We are historical enemies with all three, none of them want a secure stable Afghanistan. Until the day that Pashtuns on the Pakistani territory claim to be Pakistanis we will not succeed. Pashtuns in tribal belt should wake up and smell the coffee, they have been used and abused for decades.

We must not choose any of these countries, but we must have diplomatic relations with all. Where it is for our national interest we should take part and where its against our national interest we should shun it.

5)Why do you think of the Taliban, They started in Kandahar..

Taliban are the same Afghans who fought against the Soviets, things haven't changed. They made some mistakes and did some good things as well. Amongst every group there are bad applies, spies, traitors and sell outs and these are the realities of this world.

If you read the book of Allah swt and study the Sunnah of the Prophet may peace and blessing be on him and his family, then you should be able to see through lies, disinformation and propaganda.

salam alaikom

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Majority of Taliban are Pro Pakistani that is why they are found in North Waziristan. That is why Taliban protest Aafia siddqui the Pakistan ISI agent, where are the Taliban protests against the Karachi killings of Pashtuns, Taliban are proud pakistanis, just listen to their interviews on the media, they want to put islamic law in Pakistan but speak no such thing of Pashtun unity or Loy Afghanistan.

[akbarkhan]

So do you believe there is good taliban and bad taliban?

Do you admit that the initial intention of Taliban was pure?

If they managed to convert a British feminist, that should speak for itself shouldn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkN6P8Bp7jE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK9hqF5-rFA&feature=related

[akbarkhan]

Majority of Taliban are Pro Pakistani that is why they are found in North Waziristan. That is why Taliban protest Aafia siddqui the Pakistan ISI agent, where are the Taliban protests against the Karachi killings of Pashtuns, Taliban are proud pakistanis, just listen to their interviews on the media, they want to put islamic law in Pakistan but speak no such thing of Pashtun unity or Loy Afghanistan.

Calm waters run deep, the one who shouts the loudest is the one who forsakes when misfortune knocks on the door.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

If they managed to convert a British feminist, that should speak for itself shouldn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkN6P8Bp7jE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK9hq...eature=related

Oh come on, if you live in the UK, even the Muslim community here considers her to be a little Mi6 agent undercover.

Also you want to speak of supporters of taliban, Mr Akber Khan what about COL IMAM AND KHALID KHAWAJA AND NOT TO FORGET HAMID GUL, these are well known ISI men who openly support Taliban, so you think Taliban are for all Pashtuns when their major supporters are anti Afghan, Punjabi Nationalists

[akbarkhan]

Oh come on, if you live in the UK, even the Muslim community here considers her to be a little Mi6 agent undercover.

Also you want to speak of supporters of taliban, Mr Akber Khan what about COL IMAM AND KHALID KHAWAJA AND NOT TO FORGET HAMID GUL, these are well known ISI men who openly support Taliban, so you think Taliban are for all Pashtuns when their major supporters are anti Afghan, Punjabi Nationalists

Khalid Khwaja talks about Freemasons in his confession video, and truly the Rotary Club has entangled Pakistani government in its web of deceit and Satanist agenda.

The universe does not begin and end with Pashtuns, there is a higher purpose behind our existence. A purpose that you can not comprehend because of the self-imposed nationalistic smokescreen behind which you dwell. Why do you trap your thoughts inside a little box when you are part of a larger expanding mechanism?

You don't know what is at stake in Afghanistan, you just like to idle talk about Pashtuns. This war is not what you think it is.

[akbarkhan]

^can you please explain what this war is then please?

If we put it in simple non-historical terms, this war is about Haq and Baatil.

If you study history, Quran and Hadith you will come to realize that the architects of this war are trying to catalyse the coming of an age. An age that has been prophesied by Mohammad pbuh, Quran has shed alot of light upon the events that have unfolded in the past 100 years.

The coming of that age can not take place if a Caliphate is established. What you see is a preempt against the birth of a new Caliphate, a Caliphate is not what Zionists can afford hence they have mobilized and are fighting proxy wars.

Much attention should be given to the birth of Pakistan 14 August 1947 and Israel 14 May 1948 and the connection between Pakistan military establishment and Zionist circles.

[akbarkhan]

Akbar Jaana,
Is it true we have to be dependent on Pakistan? I honestly cant see my self dependent on them. They always use us...

They have always used us, but its our own fault that we have given them the opportunity to do so. If we Afghans put our linguistic, ethnic and tribal differences aside then we can overcome both Iran and Pakistan inshallah.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Khalid Khwaja talks about Freemasons in his confession video, and truly the Rotary Club has entangled Pakistani government in its web of deceit and Satanist agenda.

The universe does not begin and end with Pashtuns, there is a higher purpose behind our existence. A purpose that you can not comprehend because of the self-imposed nationalistic smokescreen behind which you dwell. Why do you trap your thoughts inside a little box when you are part of a larger expanding mechanism?

You don't know what is at stake in Afghanistan, you just like to idle talk about Pashtuns. This war is not what you think it is.

You think he is going to speak the truth infront of men with guns.

Why use such advanced words, ive seen your taliban heros with my own eyes, and its only Pakistan army who is in the way before tribal lashkars get hold of them. Look at swat and waziristan for example, it is the army who protects these taliban, use them when its needed but when civilians speak against them both, bad things happen, and i dont beleive in these Zionist invented theories of satanists and freemasons etc etc etc, freemasons is very open to be honest, they are not as secret and bloody as some nutjobs claim they are, Pashtuns r brainwashed with all this nonsence, told they are soldiers of khorosan, brainwashed by arab intelligence etc, tell me at present, what has taliban done for pashtuns, absolutely NOTHING.

Of course it ends with Pashtun because Taliban as you claim are representing Pashtuns, but this isnt so, ISI invented them, Col iman at the moment is being worked on to be freed by a Afghan talib jirga, Afghans are slaughtered by fellow muslims in Karachi but these ISI puppets protest for their ISI sister aafia instead.

Whats so secret about that? everything is very open.

Look at Orakzai agency? two commanders and their men slaughtered eachother to control one road, and this is your Taliban.

Taliban will never fight for a Pashtun homeland or even Against Pakistan as a Whole, Taliban are very loyal to the state of Pakistan.

[akbarkhan]

You think he is going to speak the truth infront of men with guns.

Why use such advanced words, ive seen your taliban heros with my own eyes, and its only Pakistan army who is in the way before tribal lashkars get hold of them. Look at swat and waziristan for example, it is the army who protects these taliban, use them when its needed but when civilians speak against them both, bad things happen, and i dont beleive in these Zionist invented theories of satanists and freemasons etc etc etc, freemasons is very open to be honest, they are not as secret and bloody as some nutjobs claim they are, Pashtuns r brainwashed with all this nonsence, told they are soldiers of khorosan, brainwashed by arab intelligence etc, tell me at present, what has taliban done for pashtuns, absolutely NOTHING.

Of course it ends with Pashtun because Taliban as you claim are representing Pashtuns, but this isnt so, ISI invented them, Col iman at the moment is being worked on to be freed by a Afghan talib jirga, Afghans are slaughtered by fellow muslims in Karachi but these ISI puppets protest for their ISI sister aafia instead.

Whats so secret about that? everything is very open.

Look at Orakzai agency? two commanders and their men slaughtered eachother to control one road, and this is your Taliban.

Taliban will never fight for a Pashtun homeland or even Against Pakistan as a Whole, Taliban are very loyal to the state of Pakistan.

I am not for Taliban, but I know some of their policies were good. Furthermore, you are entitled to have an opinion eventhough your opinion does not remotely reflect the reality. The problem with your type of guys is that you have little knowledge of Islam, hence you can not see what is going on. It is very well to have prefix of 'strategist' but please read the Quran, understand it and compare its teachings to ancient and contemporary history and then come and talk.

I am a Muslim, I believe in the word of Allah swt - not yours nor mine.

p.s I am not sure what your description of 'advanced words" is, if you are referring to eloquence then I am happy to explain the art & science of it in the light of Islamic philosophy and history.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

I am not for Taliban, but I know some of their policies were good. Furthermore, you are entitled to have an opinion eventhough your opinion does not remotely reflect the reality. The problem with your type of guys is that you have little knowledge of Islam, hence you can not see what is going on. It is very well to have prefix of 'strategist' but please read the Quran, understand it and compare its teachings to ancient and contemporary history and then come and talk.

I am a Muslim, I believe in the word of Allah swt - not yours nor mine.

p.s I am not sure what your description of 'advanced words" is, if you are referring to eloquence then I am happy to explain the art & science of it in the light of Islamic philosophy and history.

Does not reflect Reality? Little knowledge of Islam?

Loy Afghanistan my backside, you just another wolf in sheeps clothing.

First you cant even admitt that your Taliban brothers are nothing but ISI agents, and then you have the cheek to insult me in such a manner.

Then with the usual Arrogance, you say I dont beleive in what you say but Allah's. Does Allah speak to you, does he tell you why Pashtuns are being slaughtered and why ISI makes alot of money, does he tell u why Afghan taliban love Aafia and Col Imam and Hamid gul so much?

You see, it comes to this, Your from Afghanistan, compared to Pakhtunkhwa, its a different place,we see things very differently here, and i have alot of experience with people such as you, who want to cloak reality by some Islamic context, Let me make this clear, I recently returned from Waziristan, I saw with my own eyes, Taliban with Pakistani Soldiers, the same Pakistani soldeirs who slaughter Pashtuns for dollars, what did Taliban do to them, Nothing, but drink Chai and play cricket.

That is your Afghan taliban.

Once Pakistan Army is finished, we will see how openly your average Pashtun accepts Taliban.

[akbarkhan]

Does not reflect Reality? Little knowledge of Islam?

Loy Afghanistan my backside, you just another wolf in sheeps clothing.

First you cant even admitt that your Taliban brothers are nothing but ISI agents, and then you have the cheek to insult me in such a manner.

Then with the usual Arrogance, you say I dont beleive in what you say but Allah's. Does Allah speak to you, does he tell you why Pashtuns are being slaughtered and why ISI makes alot of money, does he tell u why Afghan taliban love Aafia and Col Imam and Hamid gul so much?

You see, it comes to this, Your from Afghanistan, compared to Pakhtunkhwa, its a different place,we see things very differently here, and i have alot of experience with people such as you, who want to cloak reality by some Islamic context, Let me make this clear, I recently returned from Waziristan, I saw with my own eyes, Taliban with Pakistani Soldiers, the same Pakistani soldeirs who slaughter Pashtuns for dollars, what did Taliban do to them, Nothing, but drink Chai and play cricket.

That is your Afghan taliban.

Once Pakistan Army is finished, we will see how openly your average Pashtun accepts Taliban.

Don't get emotional, I am not hurling abuse or insults at you in anyway. However, I believe its my duty to coldly and overtly state the truth though you might find it difficult to digest.

Your brethren remained neutral and to some extent sided with the Pakistani establishment, otherwise they would have not called themselves Pakistani Pashtuns because such thing did not and does not exist. If Pashtuns are being slaughtered on what Pakistan likes to call its territory, then that is their own fault. They should have revolted against the Pakistani occupation of Afghan land decades ago, but no, they stayed neutral and went about their daily lives. Now that they have seen the true face of Qadiyani dominated Pakistan military conglomerate they are shouting about - just as you are.

Go conduct a survey in NWFP and see how many Pashtuns identify themselves as Pakistani - they do so because business is ripe and there are monetary gains. Its these so called 'Pakistani Pashtuns' that have betrayed Afghanistan and our blood!

You tell us that Afghanistan is different from Pakhtunkhwa thus creating further divisions amongst Pashtun and that is exactly what ISI's agenda is. That is why they have changed the name of NWFP to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, in order to give a false sense of achievement to fickle minded and gullible Pashtuns.

So it is not me who is furthering the cause of ISI and Qadiyani led military of Pakistan, it is you doing their dirty work perhaps unintentionally by drawing a line between Afghanistan and Pashtunkhwa.

Your Pashtunkhwa leaders sleep with Qadiyani led Pakistani military in the same bed as if they were lovers, while the essentially Godless and ferociously brutal Qadiyani military and its intelligence wing spills the blood our Pashtuns. These so called "Pashtunkhwa" leaders are the same people who openly own cinemas in NWFP specifically Peshawar where they put on show the very thing that goes against the essence of Pashtunwali, porn movies or as they would like to call it Garam Masala.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Don't get emotional, I am not hurling abuse or insults at you in anyway. However, I believe its my duty to coldly and overtly state the truth though you might find it difficult to digest.


Your brethren remained neutral and to some extent sided with the Pakistani establishment, otherwise they would have not called themselves Pakistani Pashtuns because such thing did not and does not exist. Afghanistan is another case, but if Pashtuns are being slaughtered on what Pakistan likes to call its territory then that is their own fault. They should have revolted against the Pakistani occupation of Afghan land decades ago, but no, they stayed neutral and went about their daily lives. Now that they have seen the true face of Qadiyani dominated Pakistan military conglomerate they are shouting about - just as you are.

Go conduct a survey in NWFP and see how many Pashtuns identify themselves as Pakistani - they do so because business is ripe and there are monetary gains. Its these so called 'Pakistani Pashtuns' that have betrayed Afghanistan and our blood!

You tell us that Afghanistan is different from Pakhtunkhwa thus creating further divisions amongst Pashtun and that is exactly what ISI's agenda is. That is why they have changed the name of NWFP to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, in order to give a false sense of achievement to fickle minded and gullible Pashtuns.

So it is not me who is furthering the cause of ISI and Qadiyani led military of Pakistan, it is you doing their dirty work perhaps unintentionally by drawing a line between Afghanistan and Pashtunkhwa.

Your Pashtunkhwa leaders sleep with Qadiyani led Pakistani military in the same bed as if they were lovers, while the essentially Godless and ferociously brutal Qadiyani military and its intelligence wing spills the blood our Pashtuns. These so called "Pashtunkhwa" leaders are the same people who openly own cinemas in NWFP specifically Peshawar where they put on show the very thing that goes against the essence of Pashtunwali, porn movies or as they would like to call it Garam Masala.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

And Kabul is very clean and innocent.

Akbar Khan...Afghanistan did nothing for the Pashtunistan movement besides betray it so many times. Afghanistan played absolutely no honest role in uniting Pashtuns, yourselves were too proud of being Durrani this and Durrani that, you considered others as lower, that was your mentality and system.

In regards to Pakhtunkhwa leaders, atleast they are educated, show me a single Afghan leader or politician who hasnt hid under the protection of ISI?

Pakistani Pashtuns betrayed Afghans? What have you done to promote Pashtun unity when your own Mullah Omar sends jirgas to release Col Imam.

Show me a single Afghan leader in Afghanistan who wants to fight Pakistan and Unite Pashtuns?????

Atleast in Pakhunkhwa, Politicians there identity themselves as Lar or Bar, Show me where is the Pashtunistan movement in Afghanistan, you are too scared to even say your a Pashtun infront of a Farsiban.

You promote non sense ideologies such as global khalifa, but then insult and call Pashtuns of Pakhuntkhwa as betrayers?

Your Afghan taliban are in quetta and karachi and waziristan and they shelter themselves there under ISI, then they cross the border and attack NATO.

Show me a single source of speech from an Afghan talib who speaks about Pashtun unity and one loy Afghanistan?

and regards to sleeping with Qadiyanis hahaha

That was funny, because it was your Afghans mujahideen who openly hugged many Pakistani Qadiyanis in Peshawer way before the Soviets ever entered Afghan terrority.

ISI agenda is to keep Pashtuns divided under Mullahism,taliban,backwardness etc

I suggest you accept the fact, that both sides are guilty of betraying eachother, that is the first step to accept the truth,

To say Pakhtunkhwa Pakhtuns are bad, makes you look arrogant, because it wasnt the Pakhtunkhwa Pashtuns who lured the Soviets in and then jumped into the lap of ISI and Pakistani Military when the war got heated.

Regards

[akbarkhan]

And Kabul is very clean and innocent.

Akbar Khan...Afghanistan did nothing for the Pashtunistan movement besides betray it so many times. Afghanistan played absolutely no honest role in uniting Pashtuns, yourselves were too proud of being Durrani this and Durrani that, you considered others as lower, that was your mentality and system.

In regards to Pakhtunkhwa leaders, atleast they are educated, show me a single Afghan leader or politician who hasnt hid under the protection of ISI?

Pakistani Pashtuns betrayed Afghans? What have you done to promote Pashtun unity when your own Mullah Omar sends jirgas to release Col Imam.

Show me a single Afghan leader in Afghanistan who wants to fight Pakistan and Unite Pashtuns?????

Atleast in Pakhunkhwa, Politicians there identity themselves as Lar or Bar, Show me where is the Pashtunistan movement in Afghanistan, you are too scared to even say your a Pashtun infront of a Farsiban.

You promote non sense ideologies such as global khalifa, but then insult and call Pashtuns of Pakhuntkhwa as betrayers?

Your Afghan taliban are in quetta and karachi and waziristan and they shelter themselves there under ISI, then they cross the border and attack NATO.

Show me a single source of speech from an Afghan talib who speaks about Pashtun unity and one loy Afghanistan?

and regards to sleeping with Qadiyanis hahaha

That was funny, because it was your Afghans mujahideen who openly hugged many Pakistani Qadiyanis in Peshawer way before the Soviets ever entered Afghan terrority.

ISI agenda is to keep Pashtuns divided under Mullahism,taliban,backwardness etc

I suggest you accept the fact, that both sides are guilty of betraying eachother, that is the first step to accept the truth,

To say Pakhtunkhwa Pakhtuns are bad, makes you look arrogant, because it wasnt the Pakhtunkhwa Pashtuns who lured the Soviets in and then jumped into the lap of ISI and Pakistani Military when the war got heated.

Regards

I have never said that Pakhtunkhwa Pashtuns were bad, I said Pashtunkhwa leaders are bad, don't even try these cheap moves on me. Afghanistan consists of more than just Pashtuns, although our fellow brethren might hail from other linguistic and ethnic backgrounds they are still part of us. They make Afghanistan what it is, we are stronger together. It is abit like your hand, you can not punch anyone with a single finger but you can surely knock a Pakistani general out, if all your fingers come together forming a fist.

I understand that amongst us there are arrogant people and that is why I have always voiced my concern against nationalism because it leads to tribalism which in itself leads to narcissism. Hence we have Mohammadzai and Barakzai saying they are better than Noorzai and vice versa. That is what egocentric nationalism does to you.

You call Caliphate a "non-sense ideology", when Allah swt and His Prophet prescribed it. We don't speak about ethnicities, because we understand complexities - we don't want to allow our adversaries to bring further divisions amongst us as they have done so for hundreds of years. At the time when the freedom fighters were teaching historic lessons to the Red Army, they utilized Pakistan as a base and worked hand in hand with Pakistani establishment because it was in our national interest. But of course some leaders went beyond that fine line of cooperation and succumbed to the plots and traps of Pakistani military - there is no denial about that. Those leaders are now sitting in the Afghan parliament dancing to American drum beats.

What is wrong with being a Mullah? What is wrong with knowing and teaching Shariah? I know many Mullah's who wear a turban and put on traditional attire yet they have PhDs in science. At the same time, I know many semi-educated idiots and half way crooks who engage in idle talk but when **** hits the fan then they duck and hide.

I can tell that you are a non-practicing Muslim, if you weren't you wouldn't have called the system of Khilafa a 'non-sense ideology'. Furthermore, my experience dictates that people such as yourself are overzealous nationalists and hence are bigoted. Therefore, it is best that we agree to disagree and leave it at that.

To you be your Way, and to me mine.

Salam alaikom wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

[MazloomyarMaseed]

I have never said that Pakhtunkhwa Pashtuns were bad, I said Pashtunkhwa leaders are bad, don't even try these cheap moves on me. Afghanistan consists of more than just Pashtuns, although our fellow brethren might hail from other linguistic and ethnic backgrounds they are still part of us. They make Afghanistan what it is, we are stronger together. It is abit like your hand, you can not punch anyone with a single finger but you can surely knock a Pakistani general out, if all your fingers come together forming a fist.

I understand that amongst us there are arrogant people and that is why I have always voiced my concern against nationalism because it leads to tribalism which in itself leads to narcissism. Hence we have Mohammadzai and Barakzai saying they are better than Noorzai and vice versa. That is what egocentric nationalism does to you.

You call Caliphate a "non-sense ideology", when Allah swt and His Prophet prescribed it. We don't speak about ethnicities, because we understand complexities - we don't want to allow our adversaries to bring further divisions amongst us as they have done so for hundreds of years. At the time when the freedom fighters were teaching historic lessons to the Red Army, they utilized Pakistan as a base and worked hand in hand with Pakistani establishment because it was in our national interest. But of course some leaders went beyond that fine line of cooperation and succumbed to the plots and traps of Pakistani military - there is no denial about that. Those leaders are now sitting in the Afghan parliament dancing to American drum beats.

What is wrong with being a Mullah? What is wrong with knowing and teaching Shariah? I know many Mullah's who wear a turban and put on traditional attire yet they have PhDs in science. At the same time, I know many semi-educated idiots and half way crooks who engage in idle talk but when **** hits the fan then they duck and hide.

I can tell that you are a non-practicing Muslim, if you weren't you wouldn't have called the system of Khilafa a 'non-sense ideology'. Furthermore, my experience dictates that people such as yourself are overzealous nationalists and hence are bigoted. Therefore, it is best that we agree to disagree and leave it at that.

To you be your Way, and to me mine.

Salam alaikom wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

I call it a non sense Ideologyy because those promoting it will not support Loy Afghanistan, Do you think Pakistani Muslims who are respectibly part of the Muslim Ummah would accept half of their so called country to be given to Afghans?

It totally contradicts everything.

Buddy, Just because i oppose your Arab imperialistic designs doesnt make me a Bigot.

Like you Proudly comment, that you know people like me and people like me are so bad etc etc etc and Allah knows best etc etc etc, but i know people like you, and your aims and objectives and sweet talk, You want Pashtuns to be governed,controlled and imperialised by Arabs under your Khalifate.

Its non sense to promote Loy Afghanistan, and take land from another Muslim country, that is against Shariat, in Islamic view, Pakistan is a Muslim country, and Afghanistan and British India, both accepted the British border, only few real Pashtuns rejected it, but as usual Afghanistan was silent on the issue.

Then comes the case about being Muslim, How do you know i dont pray or practice my faith just because i reject myself being a slave of Arab bedions?

You are a wolf in sheeps clothing, you talk so sweet about pashtun unity but you proudly support Pashtuns to be under Arab rule.

Since your arrogance wont accept fact and truth, those freedom fighters were on the training and payrol of CIA and ISI, who are both deemed non Muslim agencies, not just this, those who you call freedom fighters, also turned on eachother and killed their own fellow Afghan Muslim for power, so i suggest you think wisely who is a freedom fighter and who is a ISI/CIA fed little traitor.

Regards