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[Manzareh]

do you know him personally?

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

Albani, were are you from? are you full pashtun?

No dear brother, i am half-half tough I do not categorize myself into ethnicities, only in linguistical and cultural.

asalamu alaikum

Ps: someone should check the IP of this Singh who claims beeing a Pashtun. I can bet he is possibly a banned User.

[Shayesta]

You can not even beat some Panjabis, Arabs, Chechens, Uzbeks how do you want to beat Soviets?

Yeah, it's a different thing 100,000 foreign forces plus Afghan army of Tajik majorities after ten years are still unable to free Afghanistan from Taliban?

They forced that 80% of all refugees were Pashtuns, they killed 1mio of Pashtuns, 500 000 were injured and invalides were Pashtuns, all the destroyed houses and burned lands that turned to dust were YOURS and at the end 15 000 Soviets died.

So you admit, that non-Pukhtoons actually never fought the Russians? Or this a comedy performance in which you are claiming that non-Pukhtoons were strong enough and therefore suffered less?

All those days you are proud of were (from Abdali to Najibullah) were influenced by non-Pashtuns. That´s why your proud leaders were Dari-speakers and did give a damn about your culture or language

Yeah you are right, that's why Abdali managed to unite Pukhtoons all across and Najibullah wanted to install permanent visas to Pukhtoons in Pakistan?

You were the one who lost everything. If you were able to defeat any power those power wouldn´t rule you.

For example which power?

You always served foreigners who installed their puppets.

Yeah, you mean like how Massoudov, Rabbani, Fahim, Kalakani and co were/are foreign puppets?

Hazaras fought many wars, mostly for their own independance. From the time of Ahmad Shah Abdali who send Kamran Shah to their country till today.

Name some of their wars and leaders who forced the wars. Thanks.

But only Abdurrahman was able to annex their country. Killing ca. 50% of their population is a genocide and till today noone have every said something to apologise

By the way, can you explain why Abdur Rahman had gone mad regarding Hazaras? Go on, take your time.

but Hazaras do not think about it. That is what makes them noble. They say it happened, Ok, now we can no change it.

They got no other option than to move on! Along with Amanullah Khan they were more than ready to fight the Pukhtoons but they forget that no matter how much Amanullah may stick up for them, he remains a Pukhtoon who will never think of ill towards Pukhtoons.

During the Russian intervene they supported the Mihajeddins.

Yeah, Hizb-e-Wahdat who broke records of female abduction and rapes amongst the Mujahideen.......?

They were several times defeated and weakend by Massoud and his men to 1996

Ho ho ho, hold it hold it! By Massoud's men? The very same Massoud who was one of the first ones to flee Kabul after Taliban arrived? That Massoud?

Massoud just used the Taliban, after trying to ally them with his own troup that the Taliban denied, and let them ran toward Dostum´s fortress. That´s all the secret. He favoured more for the Taliban than Dostum.

This is not FairytaleDotCom, speak with evidences.

The insultings came from Pashtuns calling them traitors, insulting their leaders and heroes.

Even I had made a video with pictures from Afghanistan and Pakhtunkhwa and insults didn't stop coming in, and I am talking about at least four years ago. And which Tajiks leaders and heroes are we speaking about?

Even their intellectuals made fun of Pashtuns and Pashtu. I even know three who are today professors in Kabul and Herat university.

Let's say I believe your fairytale, if tomorrow Pukhtoons jump off the highest mountains of Afghanistan then Tajiks will do the same? At least I can say Pukhtoons intellectuals are mature enough not to make fun of an entire race or culture. So far for your civilized brothers.

Those people defended their own people and countries.

Defending their countries? From who? Many of them were part of ISI way before Russian war, who were they defending against whom? And who are they defending now?

Bacha Bazi and raping have it´s deep roots in the south and is still practized.

ROFL, yeah that's why rape-cases in North are a million times higher, joker! Bachabazi isn't even a Pukhtu word and even your Iranian brothers aren't far behind you, get rid of this disgusting behaviour of yours where you claim everything positive about Afghanistan as yours and put all the negativities under Pukhtoon nose!

Alone in Kandahar at least 60% of all men do it,

If 60% of Kandahar practice it then 100% of Mazar must be enjoying this, no? Oh and not to forget, Iran where gays are being hanged daily?

even during the Taliban it was nothing new.

Under their rule it was banned, which you can refute with claims.

This custom came to north with criminal warlords and their allies in the south or in Pakistan.

And that's how it spread to Iran has well? Pakistan isn't practising half of the Bachabazi being practised in Mazar only.

No dear brother, i am half-half tough I do not categorize myself into ethnicities, only in linguistical and cultural.

If that's true indeed then I pity the Pukhtana woman who wasted her womb on a ill-mannered, decisive and backward son like you.

[Michin Khel]

Inter-ethnic animosities are so deep rooted in afghanistan, that it seems soon country will be disintegrated into pieces.

[graveyardofempires]

^
in your dreams phatan beghairata

[khushal]

This Kabulzada guy gives no sources for what he claims. He just blabbers on and on with hatred for Afghans/Pashtuns in his heart. This guy has inferiority complex, jealous of why Tajiks have been defeated over and over again even with the help of Super Powers and still can't accomplish anything. This guy can not respond to any of the sources I and others have provided.

He speaks highly of Ahmed Shaw Masood, who he claims was the hero who fought bravely against he Soviets. The reality is the opposite and no one has to take my word for it here is the proof I have posted before but he ignore and continues to talk highly of Masood. The Reality of Massod is in this article.

RAWA.ORG: The Afghan Who Wouldn't Fight (Ahmad Shah Massoud and links with Russians)

He tries to defame Pashtuns with the practice of Bachabazi. The reality of bachabazi under Taliban rule and under Tajik rule in the north is well documented in this documentary.
The Dancing Boys Of Afghanistan | FRONTLINE | PBS

this guy Talks out of his aas. He can not provide sources for what he claims because their are none. Many have provided sources here and he chooses to ignore them. This guy is a joke just like the cowards he claims should be regarded as Heros.

[Manzareh]

Gravey,

Is everybody and all races living happily with one another in afghanistan? its not a dream for non pashtuns but its reality that pashtuns are losing their grip in afghanistan. the quicker you realise this the sooner you can combat it.

[graveyardofempires]

we need to combate phatans and drive them out of our lands along with their napak masters.

Afghans United Like never before.

[Manzareh]

^ your all talk

[graveyardofempires]

your all pieces of ****

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

Yeah, it's a different thing 100,000 foreign forces plus Afghan army of Tajik majorities after ten years are still unable to free Afghanistan from Taliban?

What are you? A naive person? Taliban is not an army to fight it down. They are combatants who hide themself behind children, women, .... NATO drop 52B bombs on a village to get 2 or 3 Taliban but you cry why did you erased this and that. There are 30 to 40 mio Pashtuns and at least 30% of them have family members who support Taliban. Taliban get killed everyday. You will never be able to defeat any super power. You were never able. As I wrote, more than 500 000 invalides in your regions, more than 1mio deaths of 1.8 mio were from your regions, 80% of all refugees were Pashtuns. At the end 15 000 Soviet soldiers died. The only thing that can happen is when NATO or US ran off money. But that is not possible, at least not now but in the next 25 years... so the war could goes the next 25 years ... You again talk through your fake nationalism and pride. That is ignorance.

So you admit, that non-Pukhtoons actually never fought the Russians? Or this a comedy performance in which you are claiming that non-Pukhtoons were strong enough and therefore suffered less?

Non-Pashtuns were fighting them, too, even harsher, but they were also much smarter than any Paki or Arab who came from the Sulaiman Mountains under the excuse of Jihad. Fact is, the most deaths were caused by Gulbuddin and his Arab brothers who fought Pashtun fractions and Kabul, not the Soviets. Alone Guli killed more than Russians did. But when you call that a victory ... ok, call it. Such as you win the war against Pakistan ... yes, call it victory.

Yeah you are right, that's why Abdali managed to unite Pukhtoons all across and Najibullah wanted to install permanent visas to Pukhtoons in Pakistan?

go read a real book about those days. Don´t listen to any fake stories old men tell you. Abdali had an empire... that was a different case ... Najibullah had a country ... how old are you?

For example which power?

How old are you? Just examine the last 100 years and your current situation. That should be enough

Yeah, you mean like how Massoudov, Rabbani, Fahim, Kalakani and co were/are foreign puppets?

ha ha ... only Pashtuns claim such a BS. ... and do you know why? Because of their ethnicities. You are racist people. Actually I wouldn´t debate with your and your lack knowledger futher but I will make one excuse this time ...

By the way, can you explain why Abdur Rahman had gone mad regarding Hazaras? Go on, take your time.

He was an islamic extremist and a imperialists, a slave of the British Empire. He also killed Nuristanis in masses. 80 000 Nuristanis were killed. All of them innocent, just because they were no Muslims. So why do you ask for more informations.

They got no other option than to move on! Along with Amanullah Khan they were more than ready to fight the Pukhtoons but they forget that no matter how much Amanullah may stick up for them, he remains a Pukhtoon who will never think of ill towards Pukhtoons.

keep dreaming and believing in your crap, sister Jan. These are wishes but you forget that the events already happend and nothing can change reality and history. Accept it.

Yeah, Hizb-e-Wahdat who broke records of female abduction and rapes amongst the Mujahideen.......?

Such crimes where not only made by Hazaras, the ''evil and satanic'' people. Even your possible heroes did such things. Gulbuddin´s party killed the most people and raped the most women. Just take a look on the UN´s report or WHR.

ROFL, yeah that's why rape-cases in North are a million times higher, joker! Bachabazi isn't even a Pukhtu word and even your Iranian brothers aren't far behind you, get rid of this disgusting behaviour of yours where you claim everything positive about Afghanistan as yours and put all the negativities under Pukhtoon nose!

So? Than go and look on Google. It does not matter if the word is not even a Pashtu word. Both words are loan-words and exist in Pashtu. Stop lying. Noone ever had claimed anything. Whne the discussion was about Bacha Bazi one of the brothers claimed that this is a Tajik culture or belong to north. I just proved him wrong and showed him that it was in Afghanistan always a tribal custom and originally from tribal regions and southern Afghanistan. There are enogh references. Just visit facebook and enjoy one of the anti- groups and you will see reality.

If 60% of Kandahar practice it then 100% of Mazar must be enjoying this, no? Oh and not to forget, Iran where gays are being hanged daily?

lol because it´s an unislamic custom and a sin. That´s why in Iran it is forbidden. That´s what Islam says. In Kandahar people don´t get killed because it is part of the society there and still the poople do not call themself as homosexual or pdophile lol .... ''Mazar'', i even proved that that Allahdad in the north, a Pashtun warlord, is the most famous child molester ... shall i prove it to you, too? One think you can use is the language stuff while forgetting that Dari dominate the north and even Psahtuns speak Dari.

Under their rule it was banned, which you can refute with claims.

Really? Even among Taliban there were pedophiles, gays ...
Afghanistan's Anti-Women Policies Aggravate Native Homosexual Lifestyles
you just to look for them on the net. Under the Taliban homosexuality according to different figures were alone in Kandahar practized by 10% ...

And that's how it spread to Iran has well? Pakistan isn't practising half of the Bachabazi being practised in Mazar only.

Homosexuality is not a desease. It´s a natural phenomene that even animals have. 10% of the word population have gays and 10% within nearly every nation there are gays (at least in the west since the study was made for the western civilisation). But having such a thing as a natural phenomene or practizing it because of joy without beeing really a homosexal is different. In Afghanistan, Bacha Bazi, f.ex. is practized because of the ''prestige'' ... a shame for that country and it´s ancient society.

[khushal]

Inter-ethnic animosities are so deep rooted in afghanistan, that it seems soon country will be disintegrated into pieces.

Not really, Kabulzada is a minority representing his mentality. Afghanistan has proved disintegration into pieces is an impossibility. It has experienced every hardship and has defied every attempt to divide it. Through all this it has stayed intact. If any other nation on this planet with the diverse population similar to Afghanistan had gone through the same experience, it would have split up a long time ago. Afghanistan has already proven to be the exception.

[ComradePashtun]

Inter-ethnic animosities are so deep rooted in afghanistan, that it seems soon country will be disintegrated into pieces.

Not quite, to be honest. Afghanistan really is politically and across all social lines united. I am not just saying this, I know this and if you could do obseve it through Afghan media and what is happening in Afghanistan. We do have nutcases like the likes of Kabulzadah, which frankly I do not care put him in his place. I wont give him a free ride. Beside, he is a fool who does not make sense.

[Michin Khel]

This Kabulzada guy gives no sources for what he claims. He just blabbers on and on with hatred for Afghans/Pashtuns in his heart. This guy has inferiority complex, jealous of why Tajiks have been defeated over and over again even with the help of Super Powers and still can't accomplish anything. This guy can not respond to any of the sources I and others have provided.

He speaks highly of Ahmed Shaw Masood, who he claims was the hero who fought bravely against he Soviets. The reality is the opposite and no one has to take my word for it here is the proof I have posted before but he ignore and continues to talk highly of Masood. The Reality of Massod is in this article.

RAWA.ORG: The Afghan Who Wouldn't Fight (Ahmad Shah Massoud and links with Russians)

He tries to defame Pashtuns with the practice of Bachabazi. The reality of bachabazi under Taliban rule and under Tajik rule in the north is well documented in this documentary.
The Dancing Boys Of Afghanistan | FRONTLINE | PBS

this guy Talks out of his aas. He can not provide sources for what he claims because their are none. Many have provided sources here and he chooses to ignore them. This guy is a joke just like the cowards he claims should be regarded as Heros.

You also have deep hatred for tajiks in your heart, very evidant from your posts.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

This Kabulzada guy gives no sources for what he claims. .

What shall I prove? That UK installed their puppets on you or that Ghaznavids, Ghurids, Sayyids were not Pashtuns or that you were not ruled by ''Pharsians'', Indians, Arabs, Turks, Mongols or that the Muhammadzai and Barakzai´s language was and still is Dari while beeing proudly called by you as Pashtuns? ... and so on .. the list is long, dear brother


asalamu alaikum