Fake and real future MAPS of Pashtunlands

[ComradePashtun]

Not empire. Civilisation that last till today. Their empire lasted from 8th centuy to the day of Alexander (400 years), after Alexander again 400 years and than again from 3th century to the 7th century, and again some Persian or Tajik empires or tajikified lasted to the 18th century with Persians, Tajiks, Kurds, Georgians as sub-rulers and administrators, scholars, ministres, generals etc. That´s why the region was always Persian and Tajik dominated and still is.

Tajik is a non-entity. Tajiks is not an ethnicity, but was reffered to Persian speaking Muslims. Most Tajiks are Central Asians, Truko-Mongol.

[ComradePashtun]

Tajik was even a derogatory term back in time.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

Tajik is a non-entity. Tajiks is not an ethnicity, but was reffered to Persian speaking Muslims. Most Tajiks are Central Asians, Truko-Mongol.

No that´s not true. And even if that would be true they served that civilisation you can not deal with. These ''Turko-Mongols'' have established a heritage you claim for Afghanistan such as Maulana, Ibn Sina etc. all of them Persian-speaking Muslims. The name Afghan is also not native to Pashtuns but to Afghana. So are all Pashtuns of jewish stock? Forget that! There are people who call themself Tajiks and you can not do anything. It´s their own choice and will. You just repeat the same BS that Nick repeats with his pseudo-scholaric works hahaha. Nick is not a scholar. He is just a clown of the NET.

[Naveed Safi]

Dear brothers and sisters, please forget all these non-senses. What happened with Afghanistan when Daud Khan called for the Pashtunistan case? Do you remember? What happened after it? What happened after it it and it and after it? Pakistan is a strong country led by his ISI, army and it´s elitists who are armed to teeths. They are a nuclear power. You call for Pashtunistan but you forget that you can´t (I only talk here to Pakistani Pashtuns) escape from Panjabis who keep this country together. 7 different Arab nations attacked Israel and Israel defeated them all in only 7 days. For every nation one day. All these maps are ridicolous and un-islamic. On the other side non-Pashtuns would never allow such a thing. Why shouldn´t they unite with Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Iran or Turkistan. Why shouldn´t they take their rights for their own people and own ethnics but allow Pashtuns to take their righst to diminish the non-Pashtuns role in Afghanistan and dominate them to 80% and more? That does not make any sense. Pakistan is there like Israel is there. Majority of Pashtuns in Pakistan are proud Pakistanis. Living and working in centres like Islamabad, Peshawar, Karachi, Multan. They keep Pakistan´s role and boundaries alive. These maps are just utopic dreams such as Arabs dreams of a Greater Arab Nation or those Pans and these Pans. Not even Daud Khan could do anything against Pakistan by calling 2million Pashtun to get armed to move toward Pakistan. Forget this dream. It will remain a dream. You just hurt yourself with sucha dream. YOu waste your costful time with it. The Durandline is a permanent agreement and will last till Pakistan last and any other non-Pashtun in the region. Baluchs have their own plans. Why should they join Pashtuns? Everyone who say Baluchs want to join Pashtuns he lies. Baluchs just join Pashtuns in their fight against Pakistan but not to be part of that utopic Pashtunistan. Pashtuns would dry their country and take their rights. Right now, there are ethnica struggles among Pashtuns and Baluchs. Baluchs are killing Pashtuns in Quetta, Karachi and in many other regions because Pashtuns are a risk for them. They make just some 5Mio people and Pashtuns 28Mio to 45Mio. people around the world. They wouldn´t allow that. Beside that, Baluchistan was for a very short time part of a Pashtun empire and that was under Ahmad Shah Durani who could conquer the region for a short and he even did not know how to use of the entry to the ocean. The Baluchs just some years later liberated their country from Pashtun power. The next invaders were the British Empire. Why should a educated Pakistani who have a regularely months salary, a house, peace, lands, hopes and wishes give up all his old life just to be part of Afghanistan which at the moment just offer the opposite factors? Why should they accept violance, insecurity, foreign militants in their lands from Afghanistan? Judge it by yourself, dear brothers and sisters. At the end we are all human-beeings, no matter what we are. Afghans or Pakistanis. Neither will non-Pashtuns fights for that dreaming country nor they are interested in such a plan and they dominate the army. They have their own problems. The idea of a system like the Europeans have (EU/UN) is very good but how would such a unified and federal? state looks like? Can you make a map and show us how the countries will look like if we go for this?

we will shed our last drop of blood for our country we call ourself pakistani irrespective of caste and creed

[ComradePashtun]

No that´s not true. And even if that would be true they served that civilisation you can not deal with. These ''Turko-Mongols'' have established a heritage you claim for Afghanistan such as Maulana, Ibn Sina etc. all of them Persian-speaking Muslims. The name Afghan is also not native to Pashtuns but to Afghana. So are all Pashtuns of jewish stock? Forget that! There are people who call themself Tajiks and you can not do anything. It´s their own choice and will. You just repeat the same BS that Nick repeats with his pseudo-scholaric works hahaha. Nick is not a scholar. He is just a clown of the NET.

I don't care if Pashtuns are jews, above being Isralites or from the Iranic stock, we Pashtuns especially the Afghan Pashtuns are jsut proud of being Pashtuns first. Being Isralite or Iranic is secondary, unlike people with Turko-Mongol origin who draw their pride from being Iranic or Persian first.

Ibn Sina was from a Jewish origin too, the name Sina is Jewish. Tajiks again are a non-entity who have adopted Perian. A good example would be Pamiris who speak Dari or even Badakhsis whose original language is "Padarahi" but all claim to be Tajiks and hence then claiming to be Persians. Only Heratis can claim to be from the Iranic stock and Persian family. Some so called Tajiks like for example in Kabul and very few in Mazar are may be from Iranic stock the rest are Turko-Mongol. Generally they are very good in faking and inventing history.

[ComradePashtun]

This is not BS, but fact.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

we will shed our last drop of blood for our country we call ourself pakistani irrespective of caste and creed

That´s your personal and national right and I support you in that. Noone has the right to question the existence of any country. Neither Palestine nor Afghanistan. Afghanistan and Palestine will never learn their lessons. That´s the problem and very sad. So we will keep suffering because some minor radical groups.

[Toramana]

we will shed our last drop of blood for our country we call ourself pakistani irrespective of caste and creed

This is your personal opinion brother. I will not like to die for Punjab's honour (more loyal to the king than the king himself). My utmost loyalty is with Pashtuns.

[ComradePashtun]

Albani_Kabulzada,

You need to relax hahaha, trust me if Pashtuns wanted to unite you would be last irrelevant person to consult with. There are more reasons. Naveed Safi on the other hand is just pledging his unworthy loyalty to Panjab out of lacking any meaningful pride. He has no other choice.

[ComradePashtun]

This is your personal opinion brother. I will not like to die for Punjab's honour (more loyal to the king than the king himself). My utmost loyalty is with Pashtuns.

Long live true honour!

[ComradePashtun]

Naveed Safi,

Panjab has already stripped you naked with your partooq torn to pieces, what would you shed your dirty blood for?

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

I don't care if Pashtuns are jews, above being Isralites or from the Iranic stock, we Pashtuns especially the Afghan Pashtuns are jsut proud of being Pashtuns first. Being Isralite or Iranic is secondary, unlike people with Turko-Mongol origin who draw their pride from being Iranic or Persian first.

Ibn Sina was from a Jewish origin too, the name Sina is Jewish. Tajiks again are a non-entity who have adopted Perian. A good example would be Pamiris who speak Dari or even Badakhsis whose original language is "Padarahi" but all claim to be Tajiks and hence then claiming to be Persians. Only Heratis can claim to be from the Iranic stock and Persian family. Some so called Tajiks like for example in Kabul and very few in Mazar are may be from Iranic stock the rest are Turko-Mongol. Generally they are very good in faking and inventing history.

Ibn Sina´s mother was jewish. His father was a Tajik. However, it does not matter what Tajiks are or not. Today, they are proud beeing Persian-speakers, beeing part of that great civilisation nationalists call as Khorasan and beeing proud of their national sons such as Ibn Sina. Unfortunately, as proud as our Pashtun brothers and sisters are, they had never such personalities among themself. One should requestion the pride of Pashtuns, seriously. Beeing Turk or not does also not matter. They are human-beeing and the most beautiful people in entire Central Asia according to many anthropolgs. Today, they all identify themself as Tajik, no matter of Iranic or Turkic stock as you and Nick try claim (while scholars categorize Tajiks or their descandants (of ancient Tajiks or at least the people that lived in the regions that Tajiks today inhabit) as the real owner and the oldest inhabitent of the region) and beeing the most urban people among their neighbours. The only people who can and would falsify history would be some Ghilzai Pashtuns like Habibi who wrote a fake book called Puta Khazana or claim the old civilisation that existed before Afghanistan could get established as ''Afghan'' history and heritage. Now judge by yourself. Those people do not need to invent any history for themself. Pashtuns are confused about their identity and origin. Not Tajiks, Iranians, Kurds, Panjabis, Baluchs, Arabs .... That´s reality. Let them beeing proud and call themself Persians. They are part of that great civilisation. These people took the culture, civilisation and language of this great civiliusation even to Bengal and south-eastern Europe, tough beeing as you claim ''Turko-Mongols''. Human is human. Only the valuable benefits counts, not race. But unfortunately, these worl is sick because of racists, fascists and other Nazi-like people who are just depressive and jealous about others while knowing that one self can not offer anything. Such people should seek for a psychologists otherwise they will turn to murders, rapers and thugs.

[graveyardofempires]

it took only two maps
one fake and one real to expose the true intentions of so called pashtuns who was calling for pashtuns "unity".

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

Albani_Kabulzada,

You need to relax hahaha, trust me if Pashtuns wanted to unite you would be last irrelevant person to consult with. There are more reasons. Naveed Safi on the other hand is just pledging his unworthy loyalty to Panjab out of lacking any meaningful pride. He has no other choice.

how long you want to try it and how much sons you are ready to sacrify, how much lands, lifes, mothers, sisters, children, fathers? At the end you will again lose it. That fact will always remain. Daud Khan was a satan who forced Pakistani´s to come to Afghanistan, such as Bin Laden called the Americans to Afghanistan. That was his intention. He self said that in a video.

[Naveed Safi]

Naveed Safi,

Panjab has already stripped you naked with your partooq torn to pieces, what would you shed your dirty blood for?

punjab is part of our country we r brothers and this thing hurts you a lot