Rally against reconciliation/compromise with Taliban

[MDresden]

Taliban are misguided and stupid and can be easily manipulated, but I firmly believe as much as I despise them: they are no one's slaves.

No, but when they recieve a Pakistani paycheck...they have to support Pakistani thought and people.

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

If I was a Talib and my only source of help was Pakis then I would also be cool with them. :-)

Don't expect them to be supermen and fight every one. The U.S. enough to resist for them, looking it objectively.

Well, dont be a talib in the first place, I am sure being part of the other majority of Afghans who are not Talibs would be a more beneficial option if it ever happens.

Why join a organisation like Taliban when you they are on good terms with the most evil people on the planet-Pakis.

[khyaal]

No sorry Maseed, Taliban are producce of the local dynamics. Every entity in Afghanistan that has been part of the war had and still does have foreign support. Non of them were printing their own US dollars and not did they have their own weapons and amo industry. They all sought foreign help. Taliban are driven to the foreign hands to. Lets be fair.

No, they are not the product of any dynamics. They are explicitly the product of Pakistani intelligence agencies as had been confessed by the rtd, General Babar(deceased), whom Pakistan trained in those madrasa which were previously under the CIA during the proxy afghan war of the 80s. Jamia Haqania in Akora khatak Nowshehra and Jamia Banuria Karachi was the biggest center of their recruitment.

[ComradePashtun]

Comrade,
Can you tell me more about Amrullah Saleh? Share the intelligence brother.

Amdin,

lol I am no spook but I have some degree of acquaintance of the guy. He is no one in the ranks of conventional pro Massoud Shura e Nezar. He never made it to the senior figures either through peronality, social background (from well known family and standing in the community etc) or his contribution in the Jihad, or moreover he was alot junior in age than the likes of Abdullah, Besmillah or the rest. So has no established background other than U.S. loterry that made him head of the Afghan spy agency. Much that he is dubbed as the so called confident of Ahmed Shah Massoud, I think he only made it to be the so called confidence toward the last years when Massoud was isolated; his not too great English skills served to reach out to the Europeans and CIA. You know that Massoud made alot of efforts toward the end to reach out to the West. So after having spent some years abroad since 9/11 he came back a little polished with a different outlook. At the time he was probably a better candidate amongst the likes of uneducated goons such as Fahim, General Daud and other Shura e Nezar bozos for the Americans (of course they wanted some one within these lots).

You may want to look at it now as some one who was literally no body who made it to the heights of state apparatus. He could never return back to ANDS the soy agency. What could future stand for him? Here is the joke, go and find out his education background, you may get lucky of could find something on him.

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

Taliban are a product of Darol Ul Haqqania, Col Imam, Hameed gul and Fazul Rehman plus all the Saudi Petrol Dollars. That is all to it. Dynamics does not come into this, Taliban can be summed up as a movement created by "Pakistans Exploitative nature".

[khyaal]

Mula Omar himself has remained the disciple of Maulana Sami Ul Haq of Jamia Haqania (JUI S) who is a well known Punjabi agent.

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

Sami Ul haq AKA Mullah Sandwich, do you remmeber the report about him Sleeping with two young boys and that Prostitute called Tahira?

[khyaal]

Taliban are misguided and stupid and can be easily manipulated, but I firmly believe as much as I despise them: they are no one's slaves.

Can you say this about the top leadership as well? About the lower rank this might be true.

[ComradePashtun]

No, they are not the product of any dynamics. They are explicitly the product of Pakistani intelligence agencies as had been confessed by the rtd, General Babar(deceased), whom Pakistan trained in those madrasa which would previously under the CIA under the proxy afghan war during the 80s. Jamia Haqania in Akora khatak Nowshehra and Jamia Banuria Karachi was the biggest center of their recruitment.

Khyala,

Yaara you know me and I have no love for Talibs and if anythign I wish they never existed, but so can be the wish the NA also did not exist.

Yes they had everything to do with local dynamics, one way or the other.

I know the Pakistani hand in there and I know exactly how it functions. No Afghan loves Pakistan, it is all circumstances. We need to erase those conditions for Taliban so they do no rely on Pakistan.

[khyaal]

Sami Ul haq AKA Mullah Sandwich, do you remmeber the report about him Sleeping with two young boys and that Prostitute called Tahira?

Yeah very well, after the scandal he went into hibernation. LOL

[khyaal]

Khyala,


. We need to erase those conditions for Taliban so they do no rely on Pakistan.

Yeah it seems to be a vicious circle for them as well as for the whole afghan nation but it can't be broken unless Taliban dissociate themselves from Pakistan and the ISI.

[ComradePashtun]

Can you say this about the top leadership as well? About the lower rank this might be true.

Yes they are all zombies and ruggheads, top to bottom. But I think they are just getting a little smarter.

However there are decent and intelligent personalities in thier midst too i.e. Mullah Mutawakil, Beradar and some others.

[khyaal]

Yes they are all zombies and ruggheads, top to bottom. But I think they are just getting a little smarter.

However there are decent and intelligent personalities in thier midst too i.e. Mullah Mutawakil, Beradar and some others.

But Pakistan still possesses enough control on them that is why Pakis so arrogantly claim that any agreement without Pakistan will be a failure. Pakis had already sabotaged the Geneva accord after the USSR withdrawl.

[ComradePashtun]

Yeah it seems to be a vicious circle for them as well as for the whole afghan nation but it can't be broken unless Taliban dissociate themselves from Pakistan and the ISI.

They need to be reconcilled and then disarmed and then made to participate through legitimate democratics means in the national politics. If they carry on with their zombietoob and being the illogical monkeys which they sometime can be then they should be made evaporised with some good chemicals being droped from above.

[MDresden]

They need to be reconcilled and then disarmed and then made to participate through legitimate democratics means in the national politics.

Just wanted to highlight that.