Pakistan discussion

[PakistaniSoilder]

Long Live Pakistan!!!

[PakistaniSoilder]

There is only one option. Radical change and a good armed struggle, how can we face Pakistan without fighting through war

That is the thing, you can never face Pakistan in a war. We have enormous man power and sophisticated weapons, we are top 10 of most powerful nations on this Earth. Don't point out war with India, that was now 40 years ago. The same time when the U.S. did not win against Vietnam. Today Pakistan's military and U.S. is completely different.

, look at the bengalis, they tried the peaceful way and they were raped, tortured and murdered.

This is B.S. just a few isolated incidents that were blown out of proportion by the Indian propaganda machine.

Now would you like me to mention your fallicies against women in your own communities in West Pakistan and in Afghanistan that occurs on a daily basis.

Did you not in my other thread condemn women in Pakistan's military saying its unIslamic?

Is it not your view that you want to keep women inferior to men? You do not view them equal to men? Is it not your view that you want to keep them at home so they can cook and clean for you? Is it not your view that they do not have freedom of choice?

[PakistaniSoilder]

Yes I understand Pakistan calls itself Islamic republic, but I think they would rather not, if they notice they don't have to.



I know the history behind the creation of Pakistan. Many people in the field thinks that process of making a nation such as Pakistan was due to long suffering and protests which ended with theory that this "Pakistan was formed because Hindu-Muslims of British Raj demanded so".

Lets take this Pakistan back to history, that how it was transformed into a State.
Long before time in early 1920s, no-one would of even thought that there would be a nation in Pakistan that would have mainly Muslim population. Yes dear friend we are talking nation building by British within 30 years, not there was no machine in making such process but rather redevelop and use the ideology which was present in the WWI in making sure both their companies (British Own Assets in South Asia), and their influence remains in this part of the world.

Before WWI British never thought that they will one day loss India. India was like the treasure Box, in the war against Afghans, British new they could lunch another attack against Afghans, but had theoretical reasons that they may loss what they already have, is more then enough, the only problem was Russia. In conclusion general Napoleon Cavagnari wrote that they knew the wealth of England is protected from Russians, even if they didn’t support the Pathans in the case of Russian invasion. British had full confidence that Afghans were not easily to be conquered. However in the main time a treaty with Amir of Afghanistan would reassure British that no such plots would be made against British Raj, In this agreement for a period of time a promise of friendship was made and that British will not attack his kingdom and that Durant line will be set as Buffer Zone. This was assigned by which Afghans lost ½ of Afghan land and ¼ of its total population was to be separated from its motherland named “Afghanistan”. This would be called Northern Frontier also known as NWFP but later from NWFP Pakistan created FATA. NWFP (Sarhad) was to be printed in books as 4th province of Pakistan after declaration of Ayub Khan’s victory in Chitral.




One thing British really didn’t pay attention to was this newly added region entering into their “Empire”. British forces continually battled to control this 2 million people but wasn’t able to, so what they did was to play this divide and rule game which turned out to be successful, because what British was concern was making sure no such danger comes from NW. In 1909 some thousands of men was gathered in Peshawar, British had to surrender and post was emptied within a week British recaptured Peshawar. A city which was not as important as it is today, the city of Peshawar was ending tip of Afghan land, but nevertheless majority were still Pashtuns. The losing of Peshawar for a week was perhaps a warning that these Afghan tribesmen are up to something. British still ignored their voices, in the fallowing years a party from descendents of Afghans was formed, a shocking bomb which gave a solid bone in backing nationalism, and rights of freedom. This was to be known as Khilafat movement.

The history of Khilafat movement is not really thought in the Pakistani high schools, but its history was not as old to be forgotten. Often considered to be called as The Ali Brothers, was a movement by two brothers of Afghan origin, Mulana Shukat Ali Khan and Mulana Mohammad Ali Khan, born to wealthy business family from NWFP. Their main cause was the freedom from British. After trip to Afghanistan, Turkey and Europe, Khilafat movement was strong as ever, after their arrival in India, their support and sorrow was now to be shared amongst millions of Muslims from India this was the marking point of All India Muslim League formed in 1907. The Khilafat movement gave hindu-Muslims a little hope after few skirmishes and clashes that took place between Khilafat supporters from NWF and British. Thousands of bodies to be burned and laid down, the city of Quetta was out of control and British had to retaliate. In the 2 years process a peace was made between British Raj and Khilafat, in which peace was stored. Here we enter a new phase of Indian history that will change the map of India, his name Mohammad Ali Jinnah born as Ithna Ansari believer (Shia school was member of Indian national congress, changed hands and entered All India Muslim League in 1913) In the main time a plan was to be made because British had to reassert its control over India, complication in Europe, and Indian National Congress, the Khilafat movement, was the worse nightmare. Finally after thousands of its members pushed and bullied by the British Officers, members of Khilafat movement were forced to join All India Muslim league. Finally in 1924 British announced Khilafat was no longer recognized movement, but rather a terrorist militancy group from NWFP, and in 1934 a new league (Muslim League) was to be formed, which resulted from disagreements in All Parties Conference of December 1928, in the recommendation by British which ended by stating that All Muslim India League and Indian National Congress cannot be handed power, unless a new nation was to be formed for the Muslim. A year after Jinnah’s formation of his League, British announced their plan openly under Government of India Act 1935 in which two semiautonomous states was to be formed and both had to join New India Federation.

In 1939 WWII begins and British under intense pressure was not able to control India’s militancy which was now growing amongst Hindus as well, British openly blamed Afghanistan for its support to this militancy and because of close ties of Afghan king with Japan and Germany a team of 15,000 was send to “maintain control of the border”. In making sure India is not lost by the hands of Brits the rise of Religious conflict was the only option left. Therefore Few Temples in Fire would due the job, after intense 4 months civil conflict in March, 23, 1940 Mohammad Ali Jinnah openly expressed his support for the Brits recommendation of two state solution to the people of India. It was then the Pakistan movement was born, initially British thought this would not be supported due to mixture of hindu and muslims in the demographics of India, this was to be a hard task, because half of today’s Pakistan’s population was Hindu and Sikhs and other half Muslim. In the progress to save their Company the approval was made in 1946, leaving behind the question of Kashmir between Pakistan and India, and the question of Sarhad between Pakistan and formal enemy and initials anti-Brits, Afghanistan.


Understanding to How it was created, check history of Israel, how they raised to power and how from 25% jews now claims up to 70% of Israel as Jewish land.

Understanding Pakistan’s formation, and their claim of “United Muslim Nation” is very important. One thing to remind our selves the region today we know as Pakistan was created to be a “Muslim” nation while in 1945 this same region it was half non-Muslim.
Be a judge and tell me in the past 10 years what did Pakistan do, that justify itself to be called an Islamic nation.

Like Israelis they kill and bombs the regions that internationally recognized as part of Pakistani map. Like Israelis they conquer and bogus the people for peace and instability. Like Israelis in order to claim they make-up fake stats and documents. Like Israelis they publish false news regarding Muslim, dissing mualana’s and religious respected leaders is a good example, and making false movie regarding “Terrorism” etc etc.

Above all my heart drops, when I see a face of Pashtun in the face dirty-mud hit by a Pak*i bullet.


I know some of you may know history but many don't know and often forgets to the reason why Pakistan was created. You think about it and let me know. Israel=Pakistan in the sense of their maneuver not in the sense of People's nation.


Before you respond against me answer this question first
WHY WAS THIS PAK-ISTAN, a land clean from Hindus was created?





To be continued.....

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Bunch of nonsense created by an elitist's superfluously view.

Its funny how some members read this and go "ohhhh, awwwww this is our intelligent member."

If you are so content with hating Pakistan your forefathers should have voted in the 46 referendum to join India.

I must remind those on this forum that the anomonisty against the creation and State of Pakistan is of a minority. Do not fall for this hype. They are just trying to gain momentum as they have been trying to do since the creation and have failed ever since and continue to fail and will always fail.

[PakistaniSoilder]

Let me post here what I posted in my other thread and please read this carefully.


Afghan people in general do not give a damn about Khyber Pakhtunkhwa in Afghanistan or on the cyber space. It is only the ethno nationalists who are igniting this issue. Their ethnic interests is alot more dear to them than the interests of Afghanistan. Afghanistan has lost its territory in the past, but why dont these guys talk about other parts of the lost territories? These ethno nationalists and their leaders have long screwed over Afghanistan, if we see the divisions in Afghanistan, it is because of these ethnic oriented policies by the rulers in the last century.

[Admin Khan]

Thread has been locked, All I have witnessed is inflammatory posts. Nothing productive is being discussed. PM also sent to a few members who have intentionally insulted others.

Please refrain from generalizing. That is not what we Pashtuns do.