dr najeeb speech on shah nawaz tanai

[graveyardofempires]

This is Sultan Amir urf Colonal Imam, the Father of the Taleban and Incharge of ISI's Afghan Desk and later became Ambassader to Afghanistan posted in Herat ...He used to be called Pakistan's viceroy to Afghanistan....

YouTube - Truth About Taliban | Col IMAM (ISI) Praising Ameer-ul-Momineen Mullah Muhammad Umar | Part-1

And here the father of the Taleban is dancing...

YouTube - Father Of TalibaN (Col Imam) killer Of Pashtonzz Danceing Panjbai isi Agent

and here is getting he shot by the taliban (which you sat he was fahter of).
YouTube - TTP release video showing Col Imam dead

[ScimitarXEdge]

If technically it is Jihad, then how come none of you are raising arms?

Russia was the reason why Najib killed 1500000. The US aid is what fueled it because there was resistance against him. The US is the root cause of all of Afghanistan's problems, including present day. Yet, it all boils down to Najib because he was a communist. Give me a break.

If Jihad was valid against the Russians, then how come no one is supporting a full fledged jihad against the US? Perhaps, maybe, because it was the US that called the jihad in the first place against the USSR and not the Muslims?

In other words, today, Najib is not committing the atrocities, Muslims are. But that is okay because they are Muslim, and it does not matter that the US is funding them, because the US is not communist.

Do you see that the approach is wrong. Therefore, don't judge a man because he killed. Others are still killing, it is just not official.

that's a false dichotomy; jihad being valid and jihad being obligatory on all Muslims are two different things; furthermore Jihad also requires logistics; Not everyone is supposed to be on the front lines. Others do resource gathering , espionage, and other things. Either way; supporting something doesn't make it "obligatory" but permissible. It depends on the context.


U.S. and Russia are the root case, because Najib fought the resistance because Russia told him to. Russia had Afghanistan as a sattelite and they didnt want to lose that Sattelite because Afghanistan was the pathway to access to the Indian ocean.

If deaths werent the crime of Najib, then why are we against the Mujahiddeen? Because of who they killed of course.

As for Muslims killing now; that's true, but it's a red herring; We're Talking Najib right now remember? Stay on topic?

[ScimitarXEdge]

Of course! That is what discourse is.

Would you stop your entrapment disillusions. Take your medicine, man.

Then why are you asking questions which can incriminate someone?

[BarakzaiAbdali]

If technically it is Jihad, then how come none of you are raising arms?

Russia was the reason why Najib killed 1500000. The US aid is what fueled it because there was resistance against him. The US is the root cause of all of Afghanistan's problems, including present day. Yet, it all boils down to Najib because he was a communist. Give me a break.

If Jihad was valid against the Russians, then how come no one is supporting a full fledged jihad against the US? Perhaps, maybe, because it was the US that called the jihad in the first place against the USSR and not the Muslims?

In other words, today, Najib is not committing the atrocities, Muslims are. But that is okay because they are Muslim, and it does not matter that the US is funding them, because the US is not communist.

Do you see that the approach is wrong. Therefore, don't judge a man because he killed. Others are still killing, it is just not official.

There is support for a full fledged jihad theologically and in many quarters. However, the world is unipolar and the manner of warfare is now apparently insurgent based and per guerilla tactics against a dominant and well armed power with various supportive governments it has put into place (openly admitted) in the middle east. There is a conveyer belt of insurgents that flows east and west and west to east and funding appears to originate from such quarters as well.

I do not understand your proposed paradigm because the Afghan insurgents and various iraqi insurgent groups are fighting the US and installed muslim by name, Islamo Fascist governments that were Western installed.

Regarding atrocities by Muslims, the two actions can be viewed mutually exclusively (i.e. if one viewed the various muj factions as improper and tyrannicaly then certainly they should have been fought and it appears that the Taliban did just that by silencing them). So you have a logical conundrum on your hands with your proposed model. However, what the muj factions did yesterday and what the US does today can very well be viewed as independent events by a Kandahari or a Jalalabadi. So I do not get your massalaah.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Where does say to have an uprising?

You have to follow the laws of the land you live in.

Not always; for example Muhammad(saw) broke the idols of Makkah, and it was against the Law of the Land at that time to Break Idols. You can obey the Laws of the land as long as they're not detrimental to society or sow corruption on Earth.

That disproves your argument.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Mr. Logic, what is your view on the Taliban. Were they better than Dr. Najib?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

that's a false dichotomy; jihad being valid and jihad being obligatory on all Muslims are two different things; furthermore Jihad also requires logistics; Not everyone is supposed to be on the front lines. Others do resource gathering , espionage, and other things. Either way; supporting something doesn't make it "obligatory" but permissible. It depends on the context.


U.S. and Russia are the root case, because Najib fought the resistance because Russia told him to. Russia had Afghanistan as a sattelite and they didnt want to lose that Sattelite because Afghanistan was the pathway to access to the Indian ocean.

If deaths werent the crime of Najib, then why are we against the Mujahiddeen? Because of who they killed of course.

As for Muslims killing now; that's true, but it's a red herring; We're Talking Najib right now remember? Stay on topic?

hahahahah stay on topic. You are a piece of work.

[Toramana]

and here is getting he shot by the taliban (which you sat he was fahter of).
YouTube - TTP release video showing Col Imam dead

Slain by ISI because he had become too explicit about Taleban and ISI's secret connections.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Mr. Logic, what is your view on the Taliban. Were they better than Dr. Najib?

Taliban are still bad, but by the numbers who died because of the Taliban, and those who died because of Najib

yes they're better; this doesn't however make them "good".

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Wrong. I have family who lived and live in Kabul. People chose their paths. He just made it easy to become a communists, it was not forced. With all due respect, you are wrong here.

Once again the crimes I referenced are in my first post and are from a reliable source that Shayesta requested. What more do you call force than that? The rural countryside resisted the Soviet presence and experieced severe rebuke in the form of fire from above and below and murder from the left and the right.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Then why are you asking questions which can incriminate someone?

What do you fear? Is not Islam a "system of life," you idea of jihad being part of it? Oh the irony!

You never seize to amaze me. You do believe it but you love your livelihood better. E-thug? So much for calling Dr. Najib a mordagaw. I think we found your mirror.

[ScimitarXEdge]

hahahahah stay on topic. You are a piece of work.

You keep trying to divert focus; and you act as if we won't notice.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Slain by ISI because he had become too explicit about Taleban and ISI's secret connections.

Or the differential diagnosis includes a Taliban that understands clearly what you have urged it to understand... which is that the ISI/Panjab nexus is playing a double game with their lives. As I have stated, one has to reconcile TTP activities against military and ISI installations in the Panjab versus your proposed connection. The differential diagnosis remains wide open my compadre.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Taliban are still bad, but by the numbers who died because of the Taliban, and those who died because of Najib

yes they're better; this doesn't however make them "good".

Your fallacy is your numbers game. Get over it and you might see some light.

[ScimitarXEdge]

What do you fear? Is not Islam a "system of life," you idea of jihad being part of it? Oh the irony!

You never seize to amaze me. You do believe it but you love your livelihood better. E-thug?

When Muhammad(saw) was fleeing Makkah with Abu Bakr(ra) and they hid in the cave; was he living in fear and "concerned with his own livelihood"? or was there another reason?