Why I dislike pashtuns

[emkhan]

i dont know what problem this guy has got with pukhtuns.
pukhtuns are the people who have defended the country from the day first. It were pukhtuns who have been safe gaurding your western border without any pay. your army get salaries and cut down 80% from the country's budget. and still pukhtuns are not given their share.
so it is not enough that you are sleeping with peace just because of these pukhtuns ?

[KingKhan]

admin khan is my hero.

Lol, I know praising someone is bad, but that Pashtun sure knows how to debate.

[Azmal]

Look don't get me wrong, pushtuns have all rights to move anywhere in the country but sometimes it doesn't work out mate. Why? because it's very hard for pushtuns and urdu speaking people to integrate. Langauge is different, culture different. But thing that worries me most is that the migrants are nearly all daily wage workers, not educated ones. Have a look at this policy that was in place in China. http://www.economist.com/node/760635

and see how every little town in China is now brimming with industries and development.

hallelujah...not only Urdo speaker but all Indic people...fact is Pakistan was created for Muslims primarily of Indian cultural background based on problems and conflicts which pertained strictly with India. What did us Pashtons have to do with it? Absolutely Nothing.

[Nick]

Assalam o Alekum pashtun brothers

I'm a karachi resident, urdu speaking by ethnicity (not that it matters). There are a number of reasons why I dislike pashtuns here in karachi. I would like to discuss them here with you guys like an educated adult, not like the chowkidaar who almost got into a physical fight with me recently when I tried to discuss ethnic issues with him. This is the best forum i could find that has a lot of pahstun users and I guess it would be ideal to discuss it here. But before I start with my discussion I would like to request permission to do so. I don't want to come across as a pashtun hater or something. if you guys allow, I'll begin posting.

Welcome to the forum, I am happy that you joined. Girls are bad lol You know who you are and I hope you tells more about your true name or something made so that we can make a good reference to you rather saying "Girls are bad said this and that" LOL

Anyways I guess I am late there is like 10 pages already I was gonna say becareful put anyways I was just gonna tell you there are people in this forum, (Or we had in this forum) who were even natives to Karachi meaning they were even born there. Most of us have either been there or know the situation in Karachi. Anyways the point is hating a race a class of people is norm of racism, and believe we are all racist. Every human being despite what nationality, Race, colour or features some how deep inside have some sort of pride or hate. Here you are discussing why you hate Pashtu speaking Afghan race. Great I am glade you are willing to share this. But keep in mind there are ways to more logical and realistic rather than generalizing a whole group of people. I would recommand you say something about Pashtuns of Karachi rather than Pashtuns of Islamabad, Haidarabad etc etc. Because the society is different from one area to another. The pashtuns living in Karachi may have a different view of Karachi than the rest of Pashtuns who just visits Karachi. I was once told that every Pashtun from NWFP have once in live has been to Karachi. Having said that Pashtuns of Karachi are major stick holders, business man, labour as well as land lords and politicians. Karachi is one of 15 top economical societies of the world where the land, and living expenses are costy.

Again welcome to the forum. We hope to hear more from you.

[Azmal]

karachi girl,
i explain you why you dislike pakhtuns?
Pashtun is the only ethnic group in karachi fighting back against MQM,,altap,, terrorists.All others such as sindis,punjabis etc accept your rule but pashtuns are born to be free.
Why you hate anp?
You do,nt want anyother political party to win seat from karachi so the indains/refugees will be in full control.
why you are scared of growing pashun papulation?
your dream of ,,janah pore,,,under threat if pashtun papulation grow.

Karachi was built by pashtuns.you indains are busy in corruption and terror.
Karachi was peacefull city before the indains refugees.
Altap and MQM exposed by pashtuns.
MQM and indains/refugess runing their own courts,police station and tocher cells.
Before the arrivals of indains/mahajars the city was owned by sindis,kachis,pashtuns,baluchis etc.
Historically karachi is Baluch city an ethnic casuns of pashtuns.
Pashtuns today make up the majority of the papulation but you cuning indains with help of paki establishment never recognise them.
You cut off the supply of water,gas etc to pashtun dominated areas.

look it to this ,,jahil,,indain leader of indains/refugees
Is this the leader you follow
YouTube - Pro Indian Funny Altaf Hussain

here is imran khan exposing indains,s crimes in karachi
YouTube - imran khan craking jokes on altaf hussein and babar ghauri

karachi will be the capital of pashtunkhwa wa baluchistan (a fedration of tow brothers ethnic groups and a free country from punjabistan) so it is in the best interest of indains/refugees to go back to india or they be will forced to leave.
You contribute only,,terror,,to karachi.

lol are these vids for real? or some comedy show?

[Azmal]

Pashtuns come to Karachi in large numbers for economic opportunities. Karachi being the financial capital of Pakistan, it's bound to have some type of diversity. Karachi accounts for a lion share of the Pakistani economy, and Pashtuns are undoubtedly partially responsible for the success Karachi has witnessed.

If Pashtuns are working hard for their money, what is the problem?

Nice analyze.... Question to all... what puts Pashtoonistan region into greater diseconomy of scale that our people goes to others land in search of economic opportunities?

[Azmal]

What you are essentially asking Pashtuns to do is relegate their culture and identity to secondary status because in essence (and principle) urdu/noth indian culture = Pakistani. This is the issue many of us have. First of all, if they are capable of communicating with the other populations, then they have no need to make their language secondary, nor should they put under such a situation where they have to sideline their indentity for something else. Last I checked the justification for Pakistan was that it was the issue of two nation theory (hindu and muslim). Then again this proves that the flaw in that concept. Furthermore the last time someone tried the urdu imposition was Jinnah in Bengal and that backfired.

P.S. Kindly define this national spirit? What does it entail?

Accepting being a Pakistani...by default becomes Indian Muslim....and have to relegate their culture and identity to secondary.

[Azmal]

To Urdu guy,
Upholding our culture, identity, values and morality against things which violate them is NOT "uneducated" and uncivilzed. It is actually because of High self esteem and dignity that motivates people to preserve their identity, and culture and oppose factors which inhibit that…..it’s because to preserve something is to hold it with great value. On other hand it is the inadequate and those with low self esteem and general inferiority and lack of identity who try embrace and appease other nationalities, religions and ethnic groups, because this makes a person subservient to them and compromises dignity.

To Pashtons,
Its amusing seeing Pakistan supporting Fathan turning into diehard Afghan nationalist in this thread lol. Pakistan country created by Desi people for Desi people and culture as home for India muslim...so the real danger to us Pashtons are the propagation of substandard Desi culture and Urdu language… which deteriorates the Pashton heritage more so and diminishing our ethics and values for weaker and inferior ones in order to assimilate into being a Pakistani…inclusion of Jee, Rohtee, teek tak, Bajlai and even to adoption of inferior indic culture… parading woman naked Indic style in Nawshira few years ago. The only solution for all you Pashtonistai Pashtons is separate from Punjab/Pakistan and reunion with Afghanistan. That way you’ll not only be the “leaders” but your people will have the most leverage. For in terms of population there 100 times more Punjos, Sindi, Mahjar and other Indic people in Pakistan than Pashtons , and this gives them a inordinate balance of power based on their political system. When Pashtons of Pashtonistan rejoin Afghanistan, then we( Pashtoons) would have the centralized balance of power and would become an absolute majority, we’d end up becoming 85% of the population.
So what would you Pashtons of Pashtonistan rather have? being Pawns of Indics- getting on scraps that they left over , or let these Indic stop exploiting your homeland and Unite with your brothers?

[Azmal]

Whether he or she, our Urdu speaking bhai/bhain is more than welcome to have a civil discussion.

This is what I mean...danger of Desi culture/Urdu language...a state policy of Pakistan.

[Azmal]

i dont know what problem this guy has got with pukhtuns.
pukhtuns are the people who have defended the country from the day first. It were pukhtuns who have been safe gaurding your western border without any pay. your army get salaries and cut down 80% from the country's budget. and still pukhtuns are not given their share.
so it is not enough that you are sleeping with peace just because of these pukhtuns ?

Chowkedar saheeb...without pay...not even working for food...not even a banana.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

What is more amusing is to see die-hard farsiban whose lineage leads straight to a panjabi slave in Peshawar lecturing Pashtuns on what is best for Pashtuns.

[Wrayun]

Wrayun, I am seeing your partiality first-hand. If it were a Farsiwan or Tajak, you would not be that tolerant/accommodative.

Toramana pai, you don't know what I am doing because in the e-village, you are simpleton. Don't be swayed by words. No need to lick your wounds or expounding on them, that wasn't the intention of this thread. Learn to troll a little, or leave it to the pros.

[Michin Khel]

Assalam o Alekum pashtun brothers

I'm a karachi resident, urdu speaking by ethnicity (not that it matters). There are a number of reasons why I dislike pashtuns here in karachi. I would like to discuss them here with you guys like an educated adult, not like the chowkidaar who almost got into a physical fight with me recently when I tried to discuss ethnic issues with him. This is the best forum i could find that has a lot of pahstun users and I guess it would be ideal to discuss it here. But before I start with my discussion I would like to request permission to do so. I don't want to come across as a pashtun hater or something. if you guys allow, I'll begin posting.

This question should be asked by a sindhi, not an indian mohajir like you. I mean your people have hijacked sindh from sindhis and now are daring to question pashtun presence in land of sindhis.

[roadrunner]

Internet muhajirs don't count, Luffy.

[fzpz]

You guys really fall for shticks.