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  • Union of Central-South Asian Muslim Republics (UCSMR)

    Initially, Pashtunistan and Baluchistan comrise the union ...rather they are the founding members of the union...later it is joined by Sindhis, Karachi (Jinnahpur), Kashmir, Gilgit-Baltistan, Tajaks, and probably also Punjabis....Tied by common Muslim Sunni religion and interests, it emerges as an important player...It has a long coastline and is situated at the junction of Middle East, Central Asia, the Sinic World (China), and South Asia, ....


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    ولي نه

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    • #3
      It has two lingua-franca i.e. Dari and Urdu....but these languages are just lingua frnca...every republic has its own state language of course....The capital is at Kabul...Alternatively, one capital can be at Kabul the other at Islamabad....


      If India can be a successful union despite so much diversity, why not a UCSMR....?

      One thing I know is, we Pashtun should start looking west (Middle East), east (India and the rest of South Asia), and north-east (China and Far East) instead of looking north ... Arabian Sea, Indian Ocean, Persian Gulf, etc. are the avenues going to give us outlet...
      Last edited by Toramana; 01-30-2011, 12:39 AM.

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        I don't like the whole "tied by Sunni Muslims"

        what happens to Shi'ite Muslims, will they be cast to the side?

        and why central and south asia, what about the middle east or Qawqaz states? as well, or even North Africa? or what about South East Asian states, like Indonesia, Malaysia and such? Most Central Asian Muslims, speak a Turkic Dialect and are not fluent in Dari or Urdu, what shall happen to them?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
          I don't like the whole "tied by Sunni Muslims"

          what happens to Shi'ite Muslims, will they be cast to the side?

          and why central and south asia, what about the middle east or Qawqaz states? as well, or even North Africa? or what about South East Asian states, like Indonesia, Malaysia and such? Most Central Asian Muslims, speak a Turkic Dialect and are not fluent in Dari or Urdu, what shall happen to them?
          A regional political integration/re-ordering is something Arabs have to achieve themselves...I am more inclined to the idea of a core or lead Muslim state (just like US is for the West) than a some grand empire impossible of achievability...

          In my opinion such a lead Muslim state can only be Turkey...Neither Persians, nor Arabs have such a capability....

          I meant, majority of the people of these areas are Sunni...UCSMR will not be a sectarian theocratic union...It will more a cultural and politico-economic union...a moderate liberal entity...
          Last edited by Toramana; 01-30-2011, 12:49 AM.

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            turkey isnt even close to being a muslim state though, they are hardly the ones to lead any union based on islam.
            There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

            Sayyid Qutb

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            • #7
              I have to agree you with toranama. I so badly want Afg/Pak to be one empire again.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                turkey isnt even close to being a muslim state though, they are hardly the ones to lead any union based on islam.
                Turkey is exactly the state that can lead us...I am not talking of any union of Muslim countries...UCSMR is a regional union...Turkey will be Mulsim lead nation in international politics....

                Some fundo state cannot lead us...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                  A regional political integration/re-ordering is something Arabs have to achieve themselves...I am more inclined to the idea of a core or lead Muslim state (just like US is for the West) than a some grand empire impossible of achievability...

                  In my opinion such a lead Muslim state can only be Turkey...Neither Persians, nor Arabs have such a capability....

                  I meant, majority of the people of these areas are Sunni...UCSMR will not be a sectarian theocratic union...It will more a cultural and politico-economic union...a moderate liberal entity...

                  What about Kurds who are middle eastern? Central Asian Turks who don't speak Dari or Urdu? ....Turkey doesn't have Dari or Urdu either. And they're too busy wanting to be inducted into Europe.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                    Turkey is exactly the state that can lead us...I am not talking of any union of Muslim countries...UCSMR is a regional union...Turkey will be Mulsim lead nation in international politics....

                    Some fundo state cannot lead us...
                    lead us because they're subservient to European interests?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                      lead us because they're subservient to European interests?
                      No because they have been leaders of Muslims and are a middle rank power as for economy and technological development is concerned and have a progressive agenda....

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                        Turkey is exactly the state that can lead us...I am not talking of any union of Muslim countries...UCSMR is a regional union...Turkey will be Mulsim lead nation in international politics....

                        Some fundo state cannot lead us...

                        besides islam, we have no links to any of these countries, hence islam is the only bond which can make any union possible and is the most important factor.

                        how will turkey be a lead muslim nation in anything when the state itself is anti islamic? this is a country where prostitution is legal but wearing a hijab on school grounds is illegal.
                        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                        Sayyid Qutb

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Idiot View Post
                          I have to agree you with toranama. I so badly want Afg/Pak to be one empire again.
                          It would be a union of autonomous republics not an Empire....But idiot is laughing at my idea...He is being sarcastic...

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                          • #14
                            Here I will also suggest to Tajak friends if there are any on this forum to look south and east instead of looking only west or north which will result in their continued dependence on Russia...With an Iran there is this Shia tangle...

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                            • #15
                              No am not. I want a Afg/Pak empire again!

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