Afghanistan should be renamed

[fzpz]

Look Manzaria! After the fall of Dhaka due to the popular uprising of Bengali nation the Western part of the erstwhile Pakistan lost even the justification to keep the remaining part as Pakistan. The independence of Bangaldesh invalidated the very premise on which Pakistan had been founded (though with the connivance of the British).

After that event West Pakistan must have refreshed its mandate to legitimize its existance since Pakistani was/is not a natural unit, it is a federation and federation requires the voluntary participation of the federating units, while the history of Pakistan shows that it occupied half of Afghan land in 1947 and the Qalat States Union, the Baloch historical land, in 1948.

So in my view let aside the issue of name, Pakistan's very existance has been turned illigitimate by the indepence of Bangaldesh for all the nations now trapped in Pakistan.

History shows that you like to make up stuff, in your view. Reason states that Afghanistan's very existence is been turned illegitimate since the vast number of unfortunate souls that populate a mythical geography knows as afghanistan don't want to live there or be a part of it. Reality shows that the ethnicity of which afghanistan likes to name itself after, the majority of whom don't even live in afghanistan, and want no part of it. They're busy being the best Pakistanis they can be. And since the majority of pashtuns/afghans don't want afghanland but to be very good Pakistanis, it calls into question the very existence of ethno-linguistic fascism that e-warriors like to spew about. Using gas station clerk logic pashtun 'lands' in what is currently afghanistan should be part of Pakistan. They clamor at the chance to escape that unfortunate geography and then start barking from afar about a country other than their own instead of focusing on their numerous problems.

You see, childish harping is very easy.

Btw, is it true that the Baloch love pashtuns and want to be part of Pashtunistan/any other wet dream?

[graveyardofempires]

History shows that you like to make up stuff, in your view. Reason states that Afghanistan's very existence is been turned illegitimate since the vast number of unfortunate souls that populate a mythical geography knows as afghanistan don't want to live there or be a part of it. Reality shows that the ethnicity of which afghanistan likes to name itself after, the majority of whom don't even live in afghanistan, and want no part of it. They're busy being the best Pakistanis they can be. And since the majority of pashtuns/afghans don't want afghanland but to be very good Pakistanis, it calls into question the very existence of ethno-linguistic fascism that e-warriors like to spew about. Using gas station clerk logic pashtun 'lands' in what is currently afghanistan should be part of Pakistan. They clamor at the chance to escape that unfortunate geography and then start barking from afar about a country other than their own instead of focusing on their numerous problems.

You see, childish harping is very easy.

Btw, is it true that the Baloch love pashtuns and want to be part of Pashtunistan/any other wet dream?

your info is based on some online videos and websites.
you dont know what you are talking about.

go back to sleep,everything will be ok.

[khyaal]

History shows that you like to make up stuff, in your view. Reason states that Afghanistan's very existence is been turned illegitimate since the vast number of unfortunate souls that populate a mythical geography knows as afghanistan don't want to live there or be a part of it. Reality shows that the ethnicity of which afghanistan likes to name itself after, the majority of whom don't even live in afghanistan, and want no part of it. They're busy being the best Pakistanis they can be. And since the majority of pashtuns/afghans don't want afghanland but to be very good Pakistanis, it calls into question the very existence of ethno-linguistic fascism that e-warriors like to spew about. Using gas station clerk logic pashtun 'lands' in what is currently afghanistan should be part of Pakistan. They clamor at the chance to escape that unfortunate geography and then start barking from afar about a country other than their own instead of focusing on their numerous problems.

You see, childish harping is very easy.

Btw, is it true that the Baloch love pashtuns and want to be part of Pashtunistan/any other wet dream?

Once the de facto control of the Paki army weakens you will see only a torn apart state but no Pakistan.

[fzpz]

You know what's sad, people that dream more when awake than others sleeping.

[khyaal]

Btw, is it true that the Baloch love pashtuns and want to be part of Pashtunistan/any other wet dream?

Yes, I have another one. To make Punjab a regional empire as confessed by your Zia in an interview with Selig Harrison after the end of Punjabi imposed afghan war.

[MazloomYarMasud]

your info is based on some online videos and websites.
you dont know what you are talking about.

go back to sleep,everything will be ok.

Says the guy who thought Nek Mohammad Wazir was a Pashtun Nationalist.

Dude, you have been debunked number of times on this forum. There are 1000s of Punjabi Taliban fighting Nato forces in Afghanistan, did you know Punjabi Taliban have bases in Ghazni, Khost and many other locations? Do you know the ANA army has arrested Punjabi Militants in Afghanistan fighting on behalf of Haqqani group? I bet you did not know that.

Baloch have fought Pashtuns number of times, Baloch do not want to join Afghanistan, they have their own country,state and land for which they want to build their own nation in.

Pashtuns in Bolochistan have been discriminated against number of times by the Balochs.

One side you call for me to be banned, other side you insult Luffy as his sources are wrong, If somebody praises the evil Taliban they are blessed and praised while they sit in the West and are not subjected to torture,oppression and murder by these Evil Taliban.

You started on this forum insulting Punjabis, talking about dividing Pakistan etc, you ignore the fact that there are millions of Afghan citizens working in Pakistan and refuse to return to Afghanistan because they have better economical opportunities in places such as Peshawer to Karachi.

You tell Catya Sher who is a 60 or so year old woman, who still to this day has not provided her real identity to us all, who still supports Harems where Wealthy Muslim Leaders pray with 30 or so women, you can google the definition for that, that you will support the name Khorasan,Arina,

Let me remind you, the only solution is a Sole Pashtun state with Zero influence from Saudis or Iranians, and Zero influence by Darizubans and Punjabis, if you can not handle this or accept that solution, then fence the border and stop telling us to fight Pakistan while your being egged on by Tajiks Non Pashtuns.

You may wonder, why I have so much hate for Alqaeda and Taliban, My reasons are very much valid, My uncle was a Tribal Elder in Makin, South Waziristan, He was also a very religionous man and did the friday speech every week, he once said, that these Alqaeda are causing problems for the people, because few days ago two uzbeks beheaded a 9 year old kid, I remmeber his name to this day because his family were in IDP camp in DI Khan, so sad, it brought me to tears hearing the loss of their son in such a brutal manner, My uncle the next day was dragged out, and had his throat slit by a Alqaeda Commander who is of Libyan Origin, his name I can not give.

When members here with their stupid western/arab infowars mike jones conspriacy theories about Alqaeda, they should know they exist, they have brought hell upon the people of Waziristan.

That is why I tell you and advise you to go and visit the IDPS in DI Khan. They will tell you the truth of what is going on,I offered to record their views and experiences but they refused because they are scared for their lives of these criminal militants.

So before you judge members here buddy, learn and ask about their experiences before you give fatwas of banning them.

I spent alot of time assisting homeless Pashtuns from Waziristan in DI Khan, 100s of them slept on the roads with their children, I witnessed all of this, I used my holidays at work to go abroad and help our Pashtun people for free, I used my wage to give them some assistance.

So mr graveyard, do not assume we are kids, most of us here speak directly from Pakhtunkhwa and understand the situation very well.

Kind Regards

[Laila]

I am fine with Afghanistan. Because now Afghan not only means an ethnic Pashtun, but its also used as a nationality for Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras, etc.

Khorasan, i dont know. I know many tribal Pashtuns that hate it. It may cause many ethnic problems since many Dari speakers like Khorasan. I have heard many Afghans refer Khorasan as 'Kharasan' which if you know Dari, its not a good name.

[MazloomYarMasud]

Laila,

You should tell this to the ones trying to promote Loy Afghanistan, that Afghan does not mean Pashtun anymore. Pashtun means Pashtun. Tajiks and mongolians are referred to as Afghans now, they even call themselves more Afghans than the founders.

Regards

[khyaal]

Change of font colors and avatar really makes me think this one is a genuine afghan. LOL

[khyaal]

Laila,

You should tell this to the ones trying to promote Loy Afghanistan, that Afghan does not mean Pashtun anymore. Pashtun means Pashtun. Tajiks and mongolians are referred to as Afghans now, they even call themselves more Afghans than the founders.

Regards

Read this:

http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...wn-news-11249/

[MazloomYarMasud]

Khyaal,at times you ignore one important issue.

That being you never mention the Afghans who are in North Waziristan fighting on behalf of Taliban?

You know very well, Afghans are causing problems there as well, I have seen with my own eyes Afghan Mullahs in Mohammad Noor Wazirs Masjid asking for recruits?

Should they not be banned for encouraging this Jihad?

[MazloomYarMasud]

Khyaal, May I ask, on which world do you live in? Nobody in Pakhtunkhwa wants to logically or struggle to join with Afghanistan. Its the other way round, I have seen a lot of Afghans going to Pakistan for work and money, please think more practical.

The Afghans to whom you are defending are not concerned for Pashtun unity, they are mainly concerned for Kandahar and Spreading Taliban ideology across the globe.

They could not care less for a Unified Pashtun state.

[MazloomYarMasud]

Its not because Punjabis say so, its a well known fact that Non Pashtuns will NEVER ACCEPT a influx of over 20 mil Pashtuns into Afghanistan.
It will cause civil war.

[Admin Khan]

Laila,

You should tell this to the ones trying to promote Loy Afghanistan, that Afghan does not mean Pashtun anymore. Pashtun means Pashtun. Tajiks and mongolians are referred to as Afghans now, they even call themselves more Afghans than the founders.

Regards

I'm a bit puzzled here. Didn't you make videos referring to yourself as an Afghan? I believe I have seen your video where you say you are an Afghan.

Also, just because there are other ethnic groups that are proud of being Afghan nationals doesn't mean Pashtuns have lost their historical title of being an "Afghan". Even the person who engineered the name of "Pakistan" referred to you as an Afghan. He referred to your tribe along with the rest as Afghan tribes. Nobody is asking anyone to swallow the word Afghan, but you and others can't hide from history. By getting rid of the word Afghan from your life, you get rid of most of your own history. I mean, feel free to refer to yourself as Chinese, as I certainly don't care but to say Pashtun and Afghan all of a sudden can't be used interchangeably sort of makes me smirk. Considering the fact that I have witnessed PKMAP and ANP members all referring to themselves as Afghan.

Yes you are right that you aren't an Afghan citizen, If that's what you meant, you have a point.

The Afghans to whom you are defending are not concerned for Pashtun unity, they are mainly concerned for Kandahar and Spreading Taliban ideology across the globe.

Nonsense.

[sahil112]

The Afghans to whom you are defending are not concerned for Pashtun unity, they are mainly concerned for Kandahar and Spreading Taliban ideology across the globe.

what is with this kandahar, kandari attacks?