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[DaZahroJaam.]

wow. what sort of a dala talks like that to a person with the claim of being a pashtun. heck, what sort of a doctor jokes about down syndrome. you have class written all over you. karachi, don't listen to him. afghan dogs have better manners than he does.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

wow. what sort of a dala talks like that to a person with the claim of being a pashtun.

Coming from a shamali Perhan Tumban mumbler thats like a hyena telling a Lion how a Lion is supposed to talk. Stick to hyena talk with your fellow hyenas.

heck, what sort of a doctor jokes about down syndrome.

Stick to the cliche poetry instead of reading for comprehension since the sentence in question was:

A down syndrome kid (aka a retard according to you) could school you in basic concepts of reading for comprehension

you have class written all over you.

Correction, head of the class.

karachi, don't listen to him.

Isnt it cute? Two Canadian Caucasio-wannabes who just absolutely love Stephen Harper consoling eachother. Crotch-E maybe your method of skulking like a b-itch and mocking the oppressed and calling them militants because you are frightened Jennifer wont accept you anymore actually can win you a heart in Canada...

afghan dogs have better manners than he does.

Says the girl that tried to online bully a 16 year old. That's rich.

This is fun, you Khaista the Jiggalo Paisha and Crotch-E on the one side and me on the other. I guess if I used a copper wire to connect all three of you I would create one single neuron.

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[DaZahroJaam.]

she was young, i was young..you sent her after me like a rabid dog and i sent her running back to you. i don't regret what i did to her and i made a point of not leaving this platform and giving anyone the satisfaction of succeeding with their attempts of belittling me. today, as a result, i am a better person than i was back then.

now let's focus on you. as a 40 or 50 plus year self righteous old man, do you suppose you look very good while using that sort of language towards teenagers in this place??

khostai hasn't been very respectful towards me either but i am older now and capable of handling that situation better than i may have a couple of years ago. what is your excuse for outdoing yourself and acting even more shallow than you might have in the past??

if members like khostai or kakargirl are disrespectful towards you or i, it's because they are young and they don't know any better. what is your excuse?? what was your excuse 4 years ago??

what do you have against karachi?? that he is a pakistani and living in canada?? should a middle aged man who claims to have studied at harvard or where ever the hell you said it was, be spending his time in a public platform, disputing the arguments of others by mentioning their butt cheeks?? is this the pashtun in you or the muslim in you?? or is it the harvard or-where-ever-the hell-it-was-that-you-claim-you-have-graduated-from, in you??
and let me help you a little bit and spare you from the trouble of turning this entire thing back at me the way you always do..my mask maybe ugly but my act sure isn't. shame on you.

[Khostai]

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You right now.

[Khostai]

Wow Crotch-E, you really love holding those ankles and spreading them behind cheeks for those caucasio Canucks up there dont you? I take no issue with using the word Islamist or Secular - both are viewpoints and stances that are semi defined.

You on the other hand can go on using your fair and lovely creams and pertending that the root causes that every study and every expert have identified as the true causes of extremism (i.e. Western interventionalism) are lies just so Harper will call you Bill or Steve instead of your true given Muslim name.

Every month you get dumber and dumber and less productive with your pandering posts.

You went from being the b-itch that was wife hunting and "getting advice" on how to get married (and instead being the model of rejection and subsequent white worship) to the super b-itch that examines Bollywood star dresses.

Even addressing you is a waste of time.

[Karachi]

Wow Crotch-E, you really love holding those ankles and spreading them behind cheeks for those caucasio Canucks up there dont you? I take no issue with using the word Islamist or Secular - both are viewpoints and stances that are semi defined.

You on the other hand can go on using your fair and lovely creams and pertending that the root causes that every study and every expert have identified as the true causes of extremism (i.e. Western interventionalism) are lies just so Harper will call you Bill or Steve instead of your true given Muslim name.

Every month you get dumber and dumber and less productive with your pandering posts.

You went from being the b-itch that was wife hunting and "getting advice" on how to get married (and instead being the model of rejection and subsequent white worship) to the super b-itch that examines Bollywood star dresses.

Even addressing you is a waste of time.

You are a liar, like a typical Salafi. I was part of the Salafi/Wahabhi circle in my university as I have said before and I know all the tactics you guys use to lie and deceive muslims and non muslims a like. Why dont you tell about the concept of "Offensive Jihad" which majority of Salafis follow. This concept plays a huge part in Salafi violence across the world, and yet a moron like you will never touch this subject and blame everything on western invasions. Western invasions create space for these terrorists to form groups, they are not the root cause as to why jihadis exist, it is "Offensive Jihad" which is a large part of evil Salafi ideology/movement

[Karachi]

You right now.

Indeed, all what he says is Sh_it. But anyone with even a bit of knowledge of how these Salafis work, can easily break them down. They cant fool people forever. They are a lost cause and they know it

[BarakzaiAbdali]

she was young, i was young..you sent her after me like a rabid dog

LOOOOOL. Thats the most idiotic self serving reconstruction of history I have heard from you yet. No such thing happened. I never told her to say a word to you.

and i sent her running back to you. i don't regret what i did to her and i made a point of not leaving this platform and giving anyone the satisfaction of succeeding with their attempts of belittling me. today, as a result, i am a better person than i was back then.

What a demagogue you are! Nazi leader Hermann Goring once said "the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

You did the attacking and yet you are playing the victimization card?

now let's focus on you. as a 40 or 50 plus year self righteous old man,

40 or 50? LOOOOL. My dear, I am still a young buck by the grace of God. Just because my wisdom precedes yours does not mean my age does.

do you suppose you look very good while using that sort of language towards teenagers in this place??

khostai hasn't been very respectful towards me either but i am older now and capable of handling that situation better than i may have a couple of years ago. what is your excuse for outdoing yourself and acting even more shallow than you might have in the past??

Commie oriented **** who justify crushing indigenous Afghan traditions and orientations toward our religion because his commie relatives failed at doing so are just vestigial appendages - worthy of mocking and more ridicule.

if members like khostai or kakargirl are disrespectful towards you or i, it's because they are young and they don't know any better. what is your excuse??

Ibid

what was your excuse 4 years ago??

Ibid

what do you have against karachi??

Look at his last post. That sort of self serving, non evidence based sh-it that he spews is what perpetuates misconceptions and foments and catalyzes war. There is not an iota of evidence in studies, literature or even in common sense life to what he says yet he thinks because he grovels like a b-itch for his local Harper that no one will challenge that?

that he is a pakistani and living in canada??

No, its because he's a stupid person living in Canada.

should a middle aged man who claims to have studied at harvard or where ever the hell you said it was,

Harvard? Don't practice revisionist history already on my biography.

be spending his time in a public platform, disputing the arguments of others by mentioning their butt cheeks??

When a moron like him responds to evidence and references with emotionalist garbage and furbishes nothing in return except "salafi, salafi, salafi" though he hardly understands the definition of the word - thats what he gets, a verbal b-itch slap.

is this the pashtun in you or the muslim in you??

That is none of your concern.

or is it the harvard or-where-ever-the hell-it-was-that-you-claim-you-have-graduated-from, in you??

Thankfully, education has imbued in me a value to A) DEMAND EVIDENCE and DATA for claims and B) Responds to farcical claims with the latter.

When we have people like you who claim that high caliber references are "biased" and then claim to hold an education of any sort... you deserve to be pilloried as does Karachi.

Truth matters, in ALL things my dear.

and let me help you a little bit and spare you from the trouble of turning this entire thing back at me the way you always do..my mask maybe ugly but my act sure isn't.

Really? Advocating for endless war and occupation of the watan to self serve your psychotic vision of what Afghanistan is VERSUS really weighing the qualities characteristics and history of our people and our holy religion in discerning what to actually voice your support for??? The former trait sure renders one actions very very ugly. I think its a sad shame we have good men like Ron Paul and Mike Scheuer who have not a drop of Afghan blood in them but who weight history, progress in their own nation, and the data in advocating for simply leaving Afghans alone instead of pitching this utterly trashy narrative you do regarding what is "best for Afghans."

And besides I repeatedly have said that you yourself mocked your face, not I. I suspect your face may be beautiful and worthy of launching double the number Agamemnon launched to recover Helen - but your immaturity when it comes to actually seeing things for what they are based on evidence renders your nature as the opposite.

shame on you.

I go to sleep very well at night and feel no shame- the shame that you should. I will never find a pseudo-reason to advocate for the occupation and murder of Afghans to suit some sick fantasy not based on history at all. Notice that despite these idiots hurling the term Salafi and Islamist - I have yet to advocate for Caliphate or some sort of Shang ri La .

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[BarakzaiAbdali]

You are a liar, like a typical Salafi.

There is you bending over again for Harper Baba. LOL. What, praytell is a Salafi? And why for instance would Shamlawar, an admitted Salafi tell you that I am not a Salafi by his definition?

I was part of the Salafi/Wahabhi circle in my university

No, you were part of a biryani eating circle of pot bellied Karachi-ites who sat around muttering idiotic comments in the basement of your homes.

as I have said before and I know all the tactics you guys use to lie and deceive muslims and non muslims a like.

LOL. Wow. Because you ate biryani and had foul breath and talked out of your as-ses you now have an internal Islamoter that measures degree of salafism? You're not just a f-ucking idiot, you're a loony toon. Your lack of marriage partners appears to have driven you half-mad.

Why dont you tell about the concept of "Offensive Jihad" which majority of Salafis follow.

Reference please? As I said, what do you define as Salafism? For instance Ibn Tamiyah is seen as the jurist par excellence salafists turn to and his rulings focused on LOCAL leaders hence his rulings regarding the Mongols.

Hobbsian interpretation of Qutb's writings on the other hand have led to the concept of Takfirists who are SEPARATE from Salafists as a movement ( in fact Takfirists have attempted to kill some salafists)

And your lack of understanding the former point shows that you have read waaaaay to much Robert Spencer and are waaaay to enthralled with trying to win the hand of Pamela Geller.

In fact SALAFISTS REJECTED the concept of Offensive warfare in nation states that were not Muslim according to others interpretations of Qutb's work.

This concept plays a huge part in Salafi violence across the world,

Uh, you're a f-ucking moron. Every nation state where there is a foreign foot print, e.g. Mali, Afghanistan, Iraq, now Syria etc is where these guys are and where they have evolved into more vicious politically oriented movements during war that was imposed on them.

Take for instance both the pre invasion Talib movement and the Islamic Courts Union in Somalia. The latter is an especially important example since David Petreaus and Bush rejected peace overtures that resulted in Ethiopia invading Somalia and subsequently the radicalization of Somalians who joined semi Takfirist Shabaab.

and yet a moron like you will never touch this subject and blame everything on western invasions.

Uh, lets get something straight... you judge bollywood dresses and listen to super g-ay feminine bollywood music. You're both the moron and the bi-tch in this conversation.

OK. What that established, Crotchee, the reality is that the data in no way supports you:

http://csc.asu.edu/2012/07/09/how-is...ote-the-quran/

As I said, each of these studies, including that one which analyzed MASSIVE caches of Salafist writings PRE ISIS showed:

We conclude that verses extremists cite from the Qur’an do not suggest an aggressive offensive foe seeking domination and conquest of unbelievers, as is commonly assumed. Instead they deal with themes of victimization, dishonor, and retribution. This shows close integration with the rhetorical vision of Islamist extremists.

Western invasions create space for these terrorists to form groups,

Thats the only true statement you have made this whole effeminate impotent flaccid post of yours.

they are not the root cause as to why jihadis exist,

As I said, the data disagrees, the largest studies to date out of Baltimore and what not show this is EXACTLY why they exist. But you are too far inside Jennifer's anus, snugly tucked like a kangaroo's baby, trying to impress whitey like a little house sand negro to admit the truth.

it is "Offensive Jihad" which is a large part of evil Salafi ideology/movement

As I said, the grand daddy of the Salafists, Tamiyaah provided no such rulings or verifications of that. Even those morons like Anjem Choudry in England until recently rested their idea on DEFENSIVE warfare. It has only been with the war instigated creation of ISIS (which in no way has united all the various movements as we see here where Taliban actually are exchanging info with Putin):
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/24/europe...-taliban-isis/

That a minority localized to Sunni Syria and Iraq conjoined areas has envisioned this while mainly fighting in defensive posture with all these world players.

In summary, you're still an idiot.

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[BarakzaiAbdali]

Indeed, all what he says is Sh_it. But anyone with even a bit of knowledge of how these Salafis work,

LOOOOOL. Which doesn't appear to be you.

can easily break them down.

The only thinking breaking down is your manhood when you ask your colleague Jennifer to call you Moe or Sam instead of Muhammad or Samim because, as I have stated you are Crotchee.

They cant fool people forever.

You're seeing Salafis hanging out from trees and in corners... I think your mindset borders on schizophrenia.

They are a lost cause and they know it

Sadly, you are completely wrong there based on recent events in Afghanistan and Iraq. The only "lost cause" is your biryani circle.

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[DaZahroJaam.]

It concerns me plenty. A Punjabi or Pakistani condemned for his ethnicity or nationality can easily end up being one of the most amazing human beings alive and the rest of his people will benefit from this. A Pashtun with a loose character as yours will always be the trash that brings down the image of other Pashtuns along with him.
I don't care how old you are. You are not 10 and there is absolutely no reason for you to be behaving like an idiot in order to make a point rather than improving with time. Fine. I am a bully. I bully people in to decency. All on my own and not with the help of *******s like you. And who ever is calling you an Islamist is wrong. You are a morally corrupt and coward of an individual who very well understands the difference between right and wrong, chooses wrong and then takes pride in it.

Rape each other's wives, set each other on fire and then when you are questioned about it, claim the person asking is either a murtad or a commie.

This entire argument of you did this ad I did this is getting awfully boring for me. The correct answer for a person who is questioning your actions or words is providing a clarification for ones own behaviour, not diverting attention by questioning their behaviour instead. When we are finished talking about why you think it's okay for a person of your age and background to be expressing himself the way you do, we will talk about why I bully people.

And your ability to sleep well at night doesn't necessarily have to do with your innocence. It can mean a lot of other things but what seems to be more likely the case for you, it's due to your lack of concern for the conditions under which your people are living in today.

[Karachi]

It is really hard for me to answer you since every other word you say is a curse/vulgar word coming out of your ass mouth. That's very Islamic of you lol, what an idiot

Second, who said I supported Harper? I voted for the Liberal part as I consider myself liberal in most things, why would I vote for conservative? again stop making **** up

3rd. How does Shamlawar know you are not a Salafi/Wahabhi, can he read your mind or something? You have defended Salafi/Wahabhis from day one on this forum, in the beginning you even defended Saudi Arabia all the time. So you if you're not Salafi, what are you? most likly Deobandi who are wannabe Wahabhis from South Asia

4th. How in the world are you separating Salafi/Wahabhis and Takfiris, when they exactly act the same way by calling anyone non muslims/Kaffirs and always start violence with even fellow muslims. They are same, you are lying again. I dealt with these people for so long in my university. Shamlawar is a Salafi and you know how he acts here on this forum. Also not all Salafis are violent, but their ideology is, that is my point


5th. The concept of offensive Jihad is very well established, yes it was revived by guys like Qutb and Azzam, but Salafis have used this concept more then others in modern times to expand their ideology and influence across the world. Even guys like Anwar Al-waki spoke about it, since he was a big fan of Qutbs writings. In the west, this term is only used in Salafi circles, this is why Salafis are spreading their version of Islam so rapidly in the west, of course helped by the Saudi money

6th. Again, you saying that western invasion is the only cause of muslim terrorism/extremism is very laughable, as if muslims were never cutting each others heads of before the west even came in to the picture. Just look at our history man, it is stained with blood every where, in which brothers were killing brothers, sons killing fathers etc... This so called Islamic Utopia, Golden age hardly existed, it existed only in pockets, before some other muslim army came and destroyed it. Also dont forget the age old rivalry of Sunnis and Shias, which continues to kill millions of muslims to this day and you say muslims are not violent? western invasions create environment for these people to kill each other even more, so of course west has a huge fault here, I have never denied this. I mean why in the world would I want USA to plunder the resources of the muslim world by invading them, am I stupid? I was always against people like Bush, Harper, Trumps etc... But again my point is, look in the mirror first and look what is happening with in your own people. If your were strong/united to begin with, west wouldn't invade anyways. Instead Salafis want to divide a divided people even more.

Lastly, the goal of Islam itself is to establish the Khilafat across the world, are you going to deny this now too? of course some people want to this peacefully, which they do, while others in violent ways. This has been going since the foundation of Islam, this is why within 150 years of Islam, Islam reached from Spain to India, both in violent and peaceful ways. The modern extremists want to do this in violent ways.

The rest of your post is garbage like usual, no need to reply to that

[Karachi]

It concerns me plenty. A Punjabi or Pakistani condemned for his ethnicity or nationality can easily end up being one of the most amazing human beings alive and the rest of his people will benefit from this. A Pashtun with a loose character as yours will always be the trash that brings down the image of other Pashtuns along with him.
I don't care how old you are. You are not 10 and there is absolutely no reason for you to be behaving like an idiot in order to make a point rather than improving with time. Fine. I am a bully. I bully people in to decency. All on my own and not with the help of *******s like you. And who ever is calling you an Islamist is wrong. You are a morally corrupt and coward of an individual who very well understands the difference between right and wrong, chooses wrong and then takes pride in it.

Rape each other's wives, set each other on fire and then when you are questioned about it, claim the person asking is either a murtad or a commie.

This entire argument of you did this ad I did this is getting awfully boring for me. The correct answer for a person who is questioning your actions or words is providing a clarification for ones own behaviour, not diverting attention by questioning their behaviour instead. When we are finished talking about why you think it's okay for a person of your age and background to be expressing himself the way you do, we will talk about why I bully people.

And your ability to sleep well at night doesn't necessarily have to do with your innocence. It can mean a lot of other things but what seems to be more likely the case for you, it's due to your lack of concern for the conditions under which your people are living in today.

The thing is, these people are stuck in a box, they can't think out of that box because their minds are closed by the ideologies they follow.

A guy like him who is educated could do so much for Afghanistan and Afghan people, yet he still chooses to support backwardness known as Taliban. Also I never understood why and how Taliban became symbol of Pashtun nationalism to these people, even though nationalism itself is Haram in Islam and Pashtuns just 20-30 years ago had nothing to do with Taliban. This is very strange and weird

[DaZahroJaam.]

Oh, their ideologies work fine for them. They don't have a problem with living life however they please on their own but hypocrisy kicks in when their ideologies start touching the lives of others. I, for one, could care less how they choose to live their own lives. What bothers me is their sets of rules for themselves and how different thier set of morals that they reserve for others are. He can study in the west, shamlawar can visit clubs and bars in Europe but afghans should starve rather than allowing the "kharijies" from educating afghans because they are non Muslims.
You want to live like a pig, live like a pig. Leave the rest of us alone.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

It concerns me plenty.

Thats your own mistake.

A Punjabi or Pakistani condemned for his ethnicity or nationality can easily end up being one of the most amazing human beings alive and the rest of his people will benefit from this.

Irrelevent

A Pashtun with a loose character as yours will always be the trash that brings down the image of other Pashtuns along with him.

Says the pro war advocate.

I don't care how old you are.

LOL. Make up your mind. You are the one that bought it up.

You are not 10 and there is absolutely no reason for you to be behaving like an idiot in order to make a point rather than improving with time.

Like meets like. If someone argues points and does not utilize emotional terminologies like "bearded with lice" they will receive responses that suit their original statement.

Fine. I am a bully. I bully people in to decency.

There is that propaganda again to justify online bullying a 16 year old because you decided other people thought she was prettier than you. She was already decent.

All on my own and not with the help of *******s like you. And who ever is calling you an Islamist is wrong. You are a morally corrupt and coward of an individual who very well understands the difference between right and wrong, chooses wrong and then takes pride in it.

Nah. The issue is that the truth hurts and I wield it on you.

Rape each other's wives, set each other on fire and then when you are questioned about it, claim the person asking is either a murtad or a commie.

Says the one that justified an ANA soldier raping a girl in the fields with "The Taliban made society so poor and ignorant that its OK"

This entire argument of you did this ad I did this is getting awfully boring for me.

Of course it is... because being wrong like you have been gets boring after a while.

The correct answer for a person who is questioning your actions or words is providing a clarification for ones own behaviour,

Evidence and data my dear, evidence an data. Its something you have trouble providing and something I have no trouble providing. I dont take stock in emotionalism or biases like you do.

not diverting attention by questioning their behaviour instead. When we are finished talking about why you think it's okay for a person of your age and background to be expressing himself the way you do, we will talk about why I bully people.

I never initiate aggression. If one of you nitwits say something emotional or idiotic, I response in kind and correct the error. You will not be permitted to offer up non evidence based drivel without an adequate rejoinder.

And your ability to sleep well at night doesn't necessarily have to do with your innocence. It can mean a lot of other things but what seems to be more likely the case for you, it's due to your lack of concern for the conditions under which your people are living in today.

Says the one that attempts to validate the kharij who are breaking down doors and violating the autonomy of the watan. Thats rich and rank hypocrisy

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