Which country you hate the most?

[Toramana]

Luffy, I must salute ur successful attempts of making Pashtoons on both sides hate eachother. no joke.

Zahed, Luffy has another comrade in arms i.e., gulmeena. If you would carefully look at their threads, you would find some common shreds in their discourse "pure pukhtun", "Punjabi/Paki Pukhtun", etc. The whole effort seems to be aimed at creating pure pukhtun and punjabi/paki pukhtun controversy and the division.


Seems Talal etc. were not so effective and Jinnah Army spoiled the whole game in the very beginning, so Luffy got hold of another one from defence forum i.e., gulmeena.

[gulmeena]

gulmeena, the use of pure Pashtun etc. thing in racial sense is just a figment of your imagination...actually it is figuratively used for people like yourself who are bondaged and take pride in a foreign culture instead of their own culture and roots.

and vice versa for persioafghanis

Hope this helps you.

lolz!!! your replies proved my thoughts about many.....

By the way I am a Pukhtun from Pukhtunkhwa and a pure Pukhtun (not enslaven to the culture accross Indus). Besides, how is the glamourous life of Islamabad going?

lol!!! is it not a lie that you dont even know about my residence and you gave a statement....

[gulmeena]

gulmeena. If you would carefully look at their threads, you would find some common shreds in their discourse "pure pukhtun", "Punjabi/Paki Pukhtun", etc.

dont take it personal dude!
these are the words of people like your souls....this is not just a product of my mind but this is something i realize when i read your threads and posts...

[Toramana]

and vice versa for persioafghanis

Both varieties are abhorable whether persioafghan or punjopashtuns. Only Pashtuns/Afghans are respectable. Hope your mind grasps it now (if Mutalia Pakistan has not completely mesmarised it).

[Toramana]

dont take it personal dude!
these are the words of people like your souls....this is not just a product of my mind but this is something i realize when i read your threads and posts...

Now I know Zahed is right. You are just arguing for the sake of argument and have not read my posts contrary to what you claim.

[gulmeena]

Both varieties are abhorable whether persioafghan or punjopashtuns. Only Pashtuns/Afghans are respectable. Hope your mind grasps it now (if Mutalia Pakistan has not completely mesmarised it).

obviously it should be taken in the same sense now by you guys.B/c before this,a punjopushtun was absolutely unbearable for you guys as only he was on the target not the persioafghanis.atleast now you accept that both lies in the same Category...lolzzz

[Michin Khel]

[SIZE=3]Zahed, Luffy has another comrade in arms i.e., gulmeena. If you would carefully look at their threads, you would find some common shreds in their discourse "pure pukhtun", "Punjabi/Paki Pukhtun", etc. The whole effort seems to be aimed at creating pure pukhtun and punjabi/paki pukhtun controversy and the division.

I dont know about Talal. As for as defence.pk is concerned, then i have joined it few days ago with username of Monkey.d.luffy. Frankely speaking i dont like have sincere activity in pakistani forums. Toramana you are a new member, most of the members here know about me and my views which are not changed since joining.

[Michin Khel]

Between this zahed dude is a tajik who has many complaints from pashtuns.

[gulmeena]

Now I know Zahed is right. You are just arguing for the sake of argument and have not read my posts contrary to what you claim.

take it as you want.what i wanted to convey i have already conveyed.i doubt if you are not aware of the common thought of afghanis about themselves.it was a general statement though....

[JAMALUDEEN]

I love Wikipedia as much as gulmeena does, but i will never use it as a source. Some good debates going on here .

[Toramana]

take it as you want.what i wanted to convey i have already conveyed.i doubt if you are not aware of the common thought of afghanis about themselves.it was a general statement though....

The common thought of every Afghan/Pashtun is that Pathans who are more loyal to a foreign-imposed identity than their original ancient identity are not genuine Pashtuns( they may be Pathans, PunjoPashtuns, PersoPashtuns, whatever you call it but not Pashtuns/Afghans). Hope, now I might have made it easier for you to understand.

And the Alexander with his words you are displaying in your avatar are about Pashtun land not the land accross Attock, which you show your allegiance to.

[Mayana]

take it as you want.what i wanted to convey i have already conveyed.i doubt if you are not aware of the common thought of afghanis about themselves.it was a general statement though....

Gulmeeni.

How about this.

How about before you come up with new names for non-existing demographic groups such as Pesioafghans and Panjopashtuns, you get the names of existing nationalities straight?

"Afghani" is a currency, you don't see us calling you Rupee either, so if you are going to suggest ways of how the citizens of Afghanistan should structure their society and how they should run their country.. how about you get the name of the citizens right first and then jump into highly intellectual discussions with highly intellectual sources ? It's Afghan, not Afghani.

[Toramana]

Gulmeena, from you posts, it shows me that you are already brainwashed by your school system. I always laugh when I see a Pakistani insulting Persian when they themselves sing in Persian everyday at 8am(Pakistani anthem)

Pashtun Forums is proof that many Pashtuns hate the state of Pakistan because its not in our favor. Answer Jasmine, are you a Pashtana? lets debate in Pashto.

Every other Pakistani you ask is desperate to find himself/herself some foreign ancestral roots e.g., from the land of Arabs, Persians, Turks, etc. because they don't want to own their original Indic identity. I don't know whether gulmeena is suffering from such complex though or not.

So much for anti-Persianism.

[Shayesta]

lol!!! you yourself dragged rupee into discussion and so i gave you the answer....

For someone who thinks is capable of debating, I thought you will know this much to what I was referring at when I used the term 'Rupees'. Very clearly not, nor surprising to be honest.

from all these statements i got my answer.dude!

What answers from what statements?

you feel both pakistan and afghanistan comparable...

Based on what?

atleast you accepted that what ever is going on in both regions is justified.

When, where and how did I 'accept' that, ha? Speak for yourself will ya and don't make me accept whatever crap you believe in.

do you really take urdu under consideration.i really doubt that.

Under consideration for what? Why can't you just be clear with what you are trying to say?

i am even more astonished by your reply,as how you say in pakistan its not recognized yet?

Please oh Highness, do prove me wrong! Oh wait, you would have done so by long ago instead of coming with 1001 times of 'lol' to hide your 'run-out-of-words' basics.

so what?does that matters?after all its a main place in afghanistan.isnt it?

With main place you mean capital? If yes then the capital at the moment is the worse place to be at in Afghanistan. Another failed attempt.

so how for justifying your acts you drag pakistan...

Or just to justify your own acts you involve yourself with Afghanistan in a way you won't be undragable from in any discussion.

hey i dont like hide and seek...i play cards...and here is the other one i throw to you...

Change profession because you seriously ain't no good for this game.

nothing is wrong with what i said but you are messed up among your own answers....

Answers? Did you ask any question that you call my replies 'answers'? I am arguing without answering any question and since you don't know the difference between the two I ain't surprised seeing you struggle to make sense during this entire debate.

lolzz!!! here you are again comparing both.great to see such a progress.

Oh I compared Pekhawri films with something else? You seem to be telepathic so please tell me what I was planning to compare it to because I can't remember anything such!

huh?obviously i never said that pukhtun girls wear skirts.did i?

I was talking about Pekhawri films, you started about 'my Persians', what the hell am I supposed to make out of this? Instead of just stating you are also embarrassed by Pekhawri films you started to attack Afghan Persians' personality and dressing-style? How cheap it that? And even cheaper when the claim doesn't even state that their legs are not revealed!

well is it not a lie about me?

A lie about you? Honey, you are not only a walking-talking contradiction but also a walking-talking liar who doesn't even realize a lie can be caught within a second by people who do know the truth!

the discussion was about persians in afghanistan and their influence on pukhtun culture.

So in other words, you are trying to say their wearing miniskirt 'culture' has an influence on us as well? So in other words, even Pukhtanas wear miniskirts? If not then why you bring in a 'Persian aspect' (miniskirts) which doesn't have any influence on Pukhtoons whatsoever? There you go, another lie.

sorry to say but it seems like your short term memory is weak...

I at least have the brain to catch memories by.......

it seems like you are feeling pain in your feet due to numbness...buddy just move them from time to time.

Good way to take a break from a discussion you are stuck in, keep trying.

thats the habbit of afghanis from the very begining.

Just like how it is the habit of Rupees to call all Afghans as Parsiwanan.

so i dont mind these statements any more.you can call all of us punjabis as i really dont care.

If you don't care being referred at by a foreign culture then why do you even think of criticizing others of following Western culture? Damn, how right is Zahed!

and now you would say you dont care either...but let me tell you if some one claim to be a pure race then he needs to justify that.

Oh, I can't remember I ever claimed to be a pure Pukhtana and nor did I know I would mind it if someone refers to my after my grandmothers' ethnic! :O

other wise such stubborness is useless.

Define stubbornness and then look into the mirror.

then why you have such a problem with us as pakistanis?

Why do you have the same problem regarding 'Persianized Pukhtoons'.

dont slip from your track.man!!!

Slip from the track? Which track? Did I criticize Punjabis for their dressing style? For their culture? For their use of English as a national language? Did I?

so you accept this.right?

Accept what, dear broken radio?

nope i never

ROFL, so that means you wear jeans? Hahahahahaha! :D

i have already taken a look and thats why i am criticizing.

And did you also take a look at those whom you are criticizing?; Persians of Afghanistan? Now don't tell what Afghans in Pekhawer were like because then I count point out what Pakistanis in Pekhawer themselves were like!

so if they are all pushtuns then influence is quite clear...

Heh!? Who is a Pukhtoon and what is clear?

where i was lying in my statements?

Seriously!!!???

as you yourself accepted most of my lies...and you justified your statements by comparing all my lies with whats going on in the land of punjabi pukhtuns...

Don't compare your own habit of lying with everyone else. If I had accepted your ridiculous lies then we wouldn't having this 'debate' in first place, init? Yeay, how logical!

i liked the complements of you stobborn souls giving unjustified statements..

Oh dear, how much truth hurts!

and vice versa for persioafghanis

A Pukhtoon from Pakhtunkhwa makes a statement about Pakistanis, yet you bring in Afghan Persians into this. And then you accuse us, Afghanis, of being obsessed with Rupees?

is it not a lie that you dont even know about my residence and you gave a statement....

Coming from someone who gives statements on an entire nation based on what is seen in Pekhawer. Tsk tsk.

You sound really incompetent and illiterate.

[afghan]

For the topic. I hate Pakistan. I ashamed of having its nationality. they begairat corrupt Punjabi Army killed my innocent relative and now there are more videos of Punjabis killing Pashtuns. Pakistan is the enemy of Pashtuns. i feel insulted whn someone says Swat is in Pakistan. We are Pashtuns, we are Afghans.

wrora you are a citizen of an occupied area. your nationality is an afghan you are known as a proud afghan. they can occupie your land but not your mind you are a great afghan.