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  • #61
    Originally posted by Mayana View Post

    Walaikum as Salam wa Rahamtullah graana wrora,

    Da khpal da Malk da Azaadi dua yaw Shay day, nafrat bal shay day.
    Insaan bayad pa khpal Zrra ki da Nafrat da paara Zay wanasaati, kaneh Zrra ye tak tor kijhi, Rahm au Mina zandi wrakijhi.
    zma matlab da na wa si di khpal di malk di azadi duwa wanako

    mana mi da was si dagha si nafratnaka rahbaran di khudai na rakawi

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    • #62
      Originally posted by gulmeena View Post
      what about afghanis of afghanistan that turned into tajiks and persians.huh?
      You meant Afghans who had turned into Persians but today's generation are waking up while your Rupees are still jingled without mingling with richer Rupees, hu?

      Originally posted by gulmeena View Post
      let me tell you blood is thicker than water.if you believe by talking to punjabi will make you panjabi,then you probably believe that the influence of pushtun blood is so weak that it cant overcome the effect of panjabies company
      Which is exactly the case, go to Karachi and you know what I am talking about. If not then Pukhto would have been priority number one since our existence.

      Originally posted by gulmeena View Post
      i doubt if the genetic drift in pukhtunkhwa coz of panjanbies is more than that of afghanistan due to persians and takijiks.
      You mean in Kabul since in Pukhto dominated area it's the other way round? Wauw, how logical init?

      Originally posted by gulmeena View Post
      thats where the blame game starts.you say we are over influenced by panjabies and we say you are influenced by persians...
      Correction; You are saying we are influenced by Persians since we mixed with them, while I am pointing out Pekhawer only seemed much more influenced by Punjabis without even mixing with them. And that also while Pekhawer is Pukhtoon dominated. Yeah, 'dominated'.

      Originally posted by gulmeena View Post
      and yeah i would copy something again from wikipedia...as according to me its a reliable source,i dont prefer to make my own assertions....
      Let me take this as a joke and just ignore it.

      Originally posted by gulmeena View Post
      if your points satisfied me i assure you then your and my thoughts stream will join the same track....
      One million, two million, three million. Sorry, I am busy counting the numbers of Pakistanis making the same claim but backing up at the 'right' time.

      Originally posted by gulmeena View Post
      here i copy the link plus some facts about urdu speakers again from wikipedia.
      All the nonsense posted right after this just proves you didn't get my point, did ya? You say Pukhtoons are majority yet Dari is more spoken, while I said Punjabis are fast majority followed by Pukhto, yet but isn't spoken by every single ethnic.

      Originally posted by gulmeena View Post
      and what indicates your persians wearing miniskirts.i have seen them wearing jeans and skirts in pukhtunkhuwa even.
      If you wanna lie, at least lie well! Literally only people in Afghanistan famous for mini-skirts were Kabulis and that also mini-skirts where you obviously can't see their naked legs! And jeans and skirts are Western founding, not Persian. For the illiterate ones.

      Originally posted by gulmeena View Post
      you guys claim that there are more pushtuns in afghanistan than persians.then why most of afghan refugees in pakistan are persian speakers?
      Eh, because huge amount of Tajiks reside there as well? Maybe? Don't forget that back then Kabul was all a Dari-dominated area because of which many Pukhtoons ended up speaking Dari; Matches the state of Pukhtoons in Karachi, init? But today it has changed and you will understand why if you visit Afghanistan once.

      Originally posted by gulmeena View Post
      Most of your pushtun brothers say we have no problem in mixing with persians and tajiks b/c we feel them close to our selves.if you still say that its not the influence then i really have nothing to say.
      So? Did they also say they don't mind losing their culture to Persians? If we have no problem with those Tajiks we mixed then obviously they feel the same way, right? And if you think that's Persian influence on us then it might be Pukhtoon influence on them as well, right?

      Originally posted by gulmeena View Post
      yes i agree that tribal areas of afghanistan are still dominated by pashtuns but for main areas and cities my statement still remain the same.
      Main cities as in? Herat which is Tajik dominated? Mazar which is non-Pukhtoon dominated? Kandahar which is Pukhto dominated? Nangarhar which is Pukhto dominated? Or Kabul where official work is dominated by both?; And these are the main five areas of Afghanistan.
      Last edited by Shayesta; 10-10-2010, 10:30 AM.
      Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Fahd View Post
        pakistan
        im sorry to say that
        but they was the key in all this war's in afghanistan
        and they always make Sedition
        dont be sorry u r absolutely Ri8
        *But who invite Pakistan to involve in Afghanistan against Rusia
        and what Ghafar khan baba says at that time do you know ?
        who was the Mujahid e Afghanistan (your Hero that time)
        and what abt the US dollars USA sending there
        and who told to those people leave your country and go to Pakistan
        and up to now who are living in Pakistan
        Lot of get Pakistani ID cards and Passports

        Even in Punjab in Sialkoat Rawalpindi , Lahore , Karachi Faisal abad etc
        lot of Afghani living there.
        when someone hat a country then they never live there.

        Now the Area of those yousafzai
        Last edited by Guest; 10-10-2010, 11:12 AM.

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        • #64
          "Which country you hate the most"

          Pakistan (otherwise very innocent but is just responsible for the killing of 2.5 million Pashtuns(afghans) and occupies half of Afghan land).

          Britian (for attacking afghanistan 3 times)

          Russia (for attacking afghanistan in 80s)

          USA ( curruntly occupying afghanistan)

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          • #65
            I have question for afghans.

            Q: Why they run to Pakistan when russia invade their country? it doesnt make sense that you take refuge in the country which you hate the most?

            Why they did'nt take refuge in tajikistan and uzbeskistan, the countries of their fellow countrymen.

            Please dont say that KP is ours thats why we came to pakistan. Because if pakistan governament had denied entrace to u people, then KP's people would have done nothing

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            • #66
              Originally posted by shlombay
              1)Pashtunkhwa is our land. We came to our land. Do you have a problem Fluffy?
              I dont have problem but what if pakistan announces that no afghan can enter pakistan without proper visa then what will you do?

              Punjabis also share common ancestory with eas punjabis in india but have you have seen them claiming their areas?

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              • #67
                @Sholambay

                My opinions and views have nothing to do with sher khan. I am in different pashtun forums for 10 years but my ideology is same as it was 10 years before. You should ponder over my consistancy.

                P.S: for god sake stop repeating this PF intellectual stuff like parrot or robot. khpal maghzo de shta ka na?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Jasmine
                  Luffy shame on you for comparing the relationship of lar and bar to Punjabis.
                  Dont looked down upon punjabis, they are humans not sub-human race. I have never seen a pakistani punjabi claiming indian punjab to his land.
                  We are same people but we live in two different countries. Afghans are involved in criminal activities in pakistan because they consider KP to be their mor-plaar jagir?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                    I dont have problem but what if pakistan announces that no afghan can enter pakistan without proper visa then what will you do?

                    Punjabis also share common ancestory with eas punjabis in india but have you have seen them claiming their areas?
                    Nonsense! Do you know about anglo-afghan wars and Pashtuns' resistance movement against the British in the occupied afghan land? Can you show me any such movement in Punjab's history? Had they ever resisted the decision of their division?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                      You meant Afghans who had turned into Persians but today's generation are waking up while your Rupees are still jingled without mingling with richer Rupees, hu?
                      and what about your currency,who is backed up by US dollars....
                      what gave your economy a boast.you or taliban?
                      huh.is afghanistan stable enough to back up its economy after US make its way out of afghanistan?


                      Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                      Which is exactly the case, go to Karachi and you know what I am talking about. If not then Pukhto would have been priority number one since our existence.
                      for pushtuns its still their priority and for punjabis we dont need them to speak it,though most panjabis in pukhtunkhwa speak pushto and even without intermarriages they are mixed up with pushtuns like that of persians in afghanistan.if pushtun live in punjab they are obviously gonna learn punjabi.if they live in sindh they are obviously gonna learn sindhi and the same goes for other provinces.plus pushtu is one of the favourite language in pakistan that is liked by all and songs in pushto are even sung by people of other provinces that are not even pushtuns....
                      what about dari?
                      Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                      Eh, because huge amount of Tajiks reside there as well? Maybe? Don't forget that back then Kabul was all a Dari-dominated area because of which many Pukhtoons ended up speaking Dari
                      you yourself admit that the language spoken by majorities do have a influence on the language spoken by minorities.didnt you say that?
                      if in afghanistan dari can influence pushtu then how in pakistan other languages cant influence pushtu?

                      Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                      You mean in Kabul since in Pukhto dominated area it's the other way round? Wauw, how logical init?
                      here is your answer for your own question
                      Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                      Eh, because huge amount of Tajiks reside there as well? Maybe? Don't forget that back then Kabul was all a Dari-dominated area because of which many Pukhtoons ended up speaking Dari
                      Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                      I am pointing out Pekhawer only seemed much more influenced by Punjabis without even mixing with them. And that also while Pekhawer is Pukhtoon dominated. Yeah, 'dominated'.
                      its indeed the joke of the day

                      Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                      Let me take this as a joke and just ignore it.
                      no replies for useless comments
                      Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                      One million, two million, three million. Sorry, I am busy counting the numbers of Pakistanis making the same claim but backing up at the 'right' time.
                      i feel something is going on somewhere....



                      Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                      All the nonsense posted right after this just proves you didn't get my point, did ya? You say Pukhtoons are majority yet Dari is more spoken, while I said Punjabis are fast majority followed by Pukhto, yet but isn't spoken by every single ethnic.
                      are you sure?

                      Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                      If you wanna lie, at least lie well! Literally only people in Afghanistan famous for mini-skirts were Kabulis and that also mini-skirts where you obviously can't see their naked legs! And jeans and skirts are Western founding, not Persian. For the illiterate ones.
                      stop screaming insults!..if you cannot swollow a healthy discussion then better dont take part...
                      kabulis(doesnt that mean people living in kabul)
                      there we go....
                      yea thats what i am pointing at,that now why wearing jeans and shirts(skirts:better not talk about skirts,because i have personally seen them wearing skirts) is necessary for representation...yup you are right its western costume,then why your persioafghanis wear it....why they dont follow their own culture? why they dont represent pushtun culture of a pushtun state?


                      Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                      Eh, because huge amount of Tajiks reside there as well? Maybe? Don't forget that back then Kabul was all a Dari-dominated area because of which many Pukhtoons ended up speaking Dari; Matches the state of Pukhtoons in Karachi, init? But today it has changed and you will understand why if you visit Afghanistan once.
                      karachi is the part of sindh and not punjab.urdu as official language is spoken there.And about pushtuns i would say from where you got such news that pushtuns living in karachi are punjabis.pushtuns in karachi are in excess but such a news that all pushtuns living there are punjabis is not true.and the case isnt the same as pushtuns dominate karachi and so is pushtu...while kabul is dominated by dari not pushto.right?

                      Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                      So? Did they also say they don't mind losing their culture to Persians? If we have no problem with those Tajiks we mixed then obviously they feel the same way, right? And if you think that's Persian influence on us then it might be Pukhtoon influence on them as well, right?
                      lol!!! then how can you say so confirmly that pushtuns in pakistan has lost their culture to punjabis,it may be the other way round....

                      Main cities as in? Herat which is Tajik dominated? Mazar which is non-Pukhtoon dominated? Kandahar which is Pukhto dominated? Nangarhar which is Pukhto dominated? Or Kabul where official work is dominated by both?; And these are the main five areas of Afghanistan.[/QUOTE]
                      okay so the domination of pushto is only 50% according to your figures.right?

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                        Dont looked down upon punjabis, they are humans not sub-human race. I have never seen a pakistani punjabi claiming indian punjab to his land.
                        We are same people but we live in two different countries. Afghans are involved in criminal activities in pakistan because they consider KP to be their mor-plaar jagir?
                        lol!!!!!

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by shlombay
                          GULMEENA,
                          at learn the difference between Afghan and Afghani prior to engaging in debates.
                          okay lets call them afghanis.would it be right then?
                          Originally posted by shlombay
                          PF is an intellectual community full of highly educated people. It has different levels. Level 1 is Shayesta and others. Level are is when the Ph.D scholars will bring you back to earth and remove the brain washing done to you. That is when PF scholars will teach you.
                          i too hope so
                          intellect;i can see that bro!:P
                          Originally posted by shlombay
                          please listen to other people and think before you type. Also, don't feel discouraged. PF is a family and a community. Its not list a website so post as much as you want. You will only learn from us. This is a highly educated website with the highest literacy rate in any other site.
                          lol!!! i am listening to shyesta and thats why i didnt abuse her in return...thats where your intellect and maturity comes....
                          Originally posted by shlombay
                          please listen to other people and think before you type. Also, don't feel discouraged.
                          i have no doubt over my intellect so you dont need to remind me that.okay?....And being pushtun my spirits are always high...do you have any doubt about this trait of pushtun?
                          We have scientists, professors, doctors and lots of more.[/QUOTE]
                          lol!!!!!..........i liked the complement BTW

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                          • #73

                            I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                            non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                              I have question for afghans.

                              Q: Why they run to Pakistan when russia invade their country? it doesnt make sense that you take refuge in the country which you hate the most?

                              Why they did'nt take refuge in tajikistan and uzbeskistan, the countries of their fellow countrymen.

                              Please dont say that KP is ours thats why we came to pakistan. Because if pakistan governament had denied entrace to u people, then KP's people would have done nothing

                              Do you understand the meaning of Pakistan? Pakistan is just the name of an arrangement of nations which live on their own historical lands.

                              Pashtun(afghan) have had their historical lands of Northern and Southern Pakhtnukhwa before their was any such thing as Pakistan.

                              Pakistan doesn't have an inch of its own land. The displaced afghans settled in Northern and Southern Pakhtunkwha and not in your Punjab or Sindh. Now got it?
                              Last edited by khyaal; 10-10-2010, 02:01 PM.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                                I have question for afghans.

                                Q: Why they run to Pakistan when russia invade their country? it doesnt make sense that you take refuge in the country which you hate the most?

                                Why they did'nt take refuge in tajikistan and uzbeskistan, the countries of their fellow countrymen.

                                Please dont say that KP is ours thats why we came to pakistan. Because if pakistan governament had denied entrace to u people, then KP's people would have done nothing
                                first i didn't and im glad to ma father he's also didn't
                                and run ???
                                we beat them we don't hide and run
                                just the family's run to our land not to pakistan ma pashtun bro (i don't have pakistani bro )
                                by the way lovly bro the familys run to our land becuase russia was in tajikistan and uzbeskistan and this two country was under russia
                                mybe u should start learn in history

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