The founder of Afghanistan is Nadir Shah Irani, not Ahmad Shah Abdali

[Samandri]

In my opinion Afghanistanis should celebrate Nadir Shah of Iran as founder of their nation, they should call him "Nadir Shah Baba" or Baba-i-Qaum. Ahmad Khan Abdali was personal servant of Nadir Shah. According to Tarikh-i-HussainShahi (1798), Nadir Shah pierced the ears of Ahmad Khan and remarked, "When you become a king, this will remind you of me". Ahmad Khan was the only one who remained loyal to Nadir Shah at end and fought in anger against those who assassinated his master. Ahmad Shah decalared himself successor of Nadir Shah and made claim on Punjab, Sindh and other areas as successor of Nadir Shah. The backbone of his army were former Nadirid troops and his entire military was organized along the same lines as his master's. He even used the same military tactics.

One can say that without Nadir Shah Afshar, there would have been no Kabuli kingdom/Afghanistan. Its criminal of Afghanistanis to forget about real founder of their country. They should call him Nadir Shah Baba with respect.

[Pakhton]

it was durranis plan to create afghanistan not nadir afshars, the afghan choosed the right one as leader
and nadir afshar was turkman maybe half a quazillbash he never called himsel iranian or his country iran.you act like a angry sikh that found out what the great ahmad shah abdali did with your people.maybe you can create from a british cartoon another sikh fairytail saragarhi story to make yourself feel good.

[Pakhton]

and if you wanna thank someone for the idea of afghanistan you thank khushal khan khattak for his idea of a united pashtun nation that came to live under mirwais hotak and durranai.

[Pakhton]

Bump

so you wanna worship a turkmen king from today iran on a pashtunforum?
and dissrespect your real father shame

[Samandri]

Bump

[khushal]

Modern day Afghanistan was created by agreements between the Russian and British Empires long after the death of Ahmed Shah. Nadir Shah would not have been successful in India without the assistance of Afghans. If he had failed to convince the Abdalis to join him, the two sides would have continued to bicker. Nadir's decision to bring the Afghans close to him, which is what made him powerful, in the end killed him because his own Quizelbash thought he was giving too much to the Afghans.
Empires are not made by one man, they are made by alliances and balance of power.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

it was durranis plan to create afghanistan not nadir afshars, the afghan choosed the right one as leader
and nadir afshar was turkman maybe half a quazillbash he never called himsel iranian or his country iran.you act like a angry sikh that found out what the great ahmad shah abdali did with your people.maybe you can create from a british cartoon another sikh fairytail saragarhi story to make yourself feel good.

This is pure bootlicker nonsense ..... It wasn't Ahmad Abdali's plan, he joined a foreign invader and served him as his loyal servant. He wasn't even apart of the revolt that killed Nadir Shah Afshar, if he was planning it all along then there would have been evidence he was scheming against Nadir Shah ....but even till the end, he was loyal to Nadir Shah.

Nadir Shah was the inheritor of the Safawi Empire, he wasn't a Safawi but he bore allegiance to Abbas III the last Safawid Prince. He overthrew the Pashtun Hotakis from Kandahar on behalf of Safawids.

Please stay quiet Black Pakistani , your Pashtun LARPING doesn't mean you can comment on Afghan history.

[Pakhton]

Modern day Afghanistan was created by agreements between the Russian and British Empires long after the death of Ahmed Shah. Nadir Shah would not have been successful in India without the assistance of Afghans. If he had failed to convince the Abdalis to join him, the two sides would have continued to bicker. Nadir's decision to bring the Afghans close to him, which is what made him powerful, in the end killed him because his own Quizelbash thought he was giving too much to the Afghans.
Empires are not made by one man, they are made by alliances and balance of power.

interesting you say a quazilbash killed him. the uzbaks say one of their slaves to nadir afshar killed him. the persians say they killed him to bring the old dynastie back to power but i believe that the afghans killed nadir afshar, the afghans justify his death because nadir afshar went totaly crazy nuts he killed his slaves his servants just beeing in a bad mood.

[khushal]

and if you wanna thank someone for the idea of afghanistan you thank khushal khan khattak for his idea of a united pashtun nation that came to live under mirwais hotak and durranai.

Mirweis never united the Afghans. He was too busy in Western lands. What made Abdali successful was his alliance with Nadir Shah which freed resources that were used toward the conquest of India.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

interesting you say a quazilbash killed him. the uzbaks say one of their slaves to nadir afshar killed him. the persians say they killed him to bring the old dynastie back to power but i believe that the afghans killed nadir afshar, the afghans justify his death because nadir afshar went totaly crazy nuts he killed his slaves his servants just beeing in a bad mood.

Nope, it was his Qizilbash that killed him ....who are you to say anything? You dont have a history degree, you don't have any references to cite, you just parrot the wishful thinking of the ignorant and uneducated. ...all you are is an online LARPer that's upset that you encountered Afghans that don't want to act ghetto.

now shoo Black Pakistani

[Pakhton]

This is pure bootlicker nonsense ..... It wasn't Ahmad Abdali's plan, he joined a foreign invader and served him as his loyal servant. He wasn't even apart of the revolt that killed Nadir Shah Afshar, if he was planning it all along then there would have been evidence he was scheming against Nadir Shah ....but even till the end, he was loyal to Nadir Shah.

Nadir Shah was the inheritor of the Safawi Empire, he wasn't a Safawi but he bore allegiance to Abbas III the last Safawid Prince. He overthrew the Pashtun Hotakis from Kandahar on behalf of Safawids.

Please stay quiet Black Pakistani , your Pashtun LARPING doesn't mean you can comment on Afghan history.

we afghans say it was ahmad shahs durranis plan because nadir afshar went crazy he head a mentally ilness.nadir afshar killed people for no reason and the abdali saw his chance to get rid of this crazy king and take his rightful place as king of the afghans. i mean he was strong enough a general that attacked today pakistan and india more than one time with the afshars.

[Pakhton]

Mirweis never united the Afghans. He was too busy in Western lands. What made Abdali successful was his alliance with Nadir Shah which freed resources that were used toward the conquest of India.

mirwais hotak united half afghanistan thats why his name is just mirwais neeka but the abdali united full afghanistan thats why his name is ahmad shah baba

[khushal]

interesting you say a quazilbash killed him. the uzbaks say one of their slaves to nadir afshar killed him. the persians say they killed him to bring the old dynastie back to power but i believe that the afghans killed nadir afshar, the afghans justify his death because nadir afshar went totaly crazy nuts he killed his slaves his servants just beeing in a bad mood.

His own Quazlbash bodyguards killed him.

[Pakhton]

Nope, it was his Qizilbash that killed him ....who are you to say anything? You dont have a history degree, you don't have any references to cite, you just parrot the wishful thinking of the ignorant and uneducated. ...all you are is an online LARPer that's upset that you encountered Afghans that don't want to act ghetto.

now shoo Black Pakistani

you should trust afghan sources not british foreign sources like samandri.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Mirweis never united the Afghans. He was too busy in Western lands. What made Abdali successful was his alliance with Nadir Shah which freed resources that were used toward the conquest of India.

Mirwais did unite Afghans, his son and Nephew however were too preoccupied with Isfahan and trying to rape Iranian women.

Mirwais was honorable though, he just overthrew the Safawids and pushed them out of Afghan land.