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  • Originally posted by khushal View Post
    Pashtuns that I have met from Karachi are completely desified weirdos.
    You have not met any Pashtuns from Pakistan. You have never been to Pakistan or Afghanistan. You read posts of other people on web and run your imagination after reading those posts. The thing is, kunatwar got it wrong about Karachi, and you stupidly took his word for it. The millions of Pashtuns in Karachi (including Afghanistani mohajirs) live in outlying suburbs of karachi which are no-go-areas due to decades long tensions with mohajirs. All of them in those Pashtun zones are speaking Pashto like Shahi Syed.

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      • Well now I don't think you're from Multan, but browsing through the related profiles from the links, it seems your family are from Quetta ....but you definitely have Kandahari roots since your uncle or whoever is wearing a kandari gharrai/kameez
        Last edited by Iblis_Efreetzai; 12-23-2018, 01:03 PM.

        Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


        Originally posted by ذو الفقار
        don’t try to be smart.

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        • My personal opinion on Jama is that if his pictures and Facebook profiles are real, then he’s probably from junoobi Pakhtunkhwa/Quetta region(probably from the Achakzai tribe but I’m not sure since in my experience Achakzais don’t generally use the Durrani surname) like Iblees said. You can tell from the people he’s connected to and the turban and kamees partoog styles you see in his family pictures.
          Originally posted by Kaushika

          majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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          • Originally posted by Samandri View Post
            You have not met any Pashtuns from Pakistan. You have never been to Pakistan or Afghanistan. You read posts of other people on web and run your imagination after reading those posts. The thing is, kunatwar got it wrong about Karachi, and you stupidly took his word for it. The millions of Pashtuns in Karachi (including Afghanistani mohajirs) live in outlying suburbs of karachi which are no-go-areas due to decades long tensions with mohajirs. All of them in those Pashtun zones are speaking Pashto like Shahi Syed.
            There are many here in the US and many more on the way. Paki and Indians are everywhere and most Paki here are from Karachi but whatever makes you feel better about yourself.
            Last edited by khushal; 12-23-2018, 04:29 AM.

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            • Originally posted by jama0112 View Post
              Yep, you're not a pahstun.

              You're 100% killzai,
              Actually, he is 100% Black Pakistani/Killzai ....lol no picture necessary, his trademark ghetto trash talk is the give away.

              Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


              Originally posted by ذو الفقار
              don’t try to be smart.

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              • Originally posted by khushal View Post
                That's generalizing, those are secular Afghans, that's expected. If I put up a video of American Muslims at a mosque doesnt mean all American Muslims are like that but my concern is with
                CAIR and the Islamic Society of North America who are becoming sell outs.
                Islamic Society of North America holds annual conference - YouTube

                Also the Somali that won the US house of Rep seat who is a member of the democratic party promotes gay marriage and abortion on her website and so does that arab lady that won in Detroit.


                In America, majority of Afghans are secular, Majority of Muslims in America are secular whether they admit it or not., even the religious ones. No one here is petitioning for Shari'ah Law, no one here is refusing annuity accruement on their houses. No one is whipping their sons for getting their Mexican girlfriends pregant, no one is chasing down their daughter for running away from home with an American guy.

                Heck even Sa'aduddin Shpoon's eldest daughter was married to a white guy and had a son with him. She has an Angrez last name now. The only "non-secular" Afghans in the true sense are living in remote villages where their main focus is doing munz and zikr. The Imam of the Jamaluddin Al Afghani Masjid in Flushing, his eldest daughter isn't even Muslim anymore and she also married an American, has an American last name.



                Again, I'm not saying this to be a prick, I'm saying this so we stop pretending that this is some "fringe" and rather confront that this is the state of our expats today. yes there are still Afghans that care about their deen and their farhang and akhlaq, but things we couldmn't imagine has become normal. Our ancestors would feel immense shame if they saw what's prevalent now.

                These are the Ends Times ....we have to prepare for them and give up on all this false pride B.S.
                Last edited by Iblis_Efreetzai; 12-23-2018, 01:19 PM.

                Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                don’t try to be smart.

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                • Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                  In America, majority of Afghans are secular, Majority of Muslims in America are secular whether they admit it or not., even the religious ones. No one here is petitioning for Shari'ah Law, no one here is refusing annuity accruement on their houses. No one is whipping their sons for getting their Mexican girlfriends pregant, no one is chasing down their daughter for running away from home with an American guy.

                  Heck even Sa'aduddin Shpoon's eldest daughter was married to a white guy and had a son with him. She has an Angrez last name now. The only "non-secular" Afghans in the true sense are living in remote villages where their main focus is doing munz and zikr. The Imam of the Jamaluddin Al Afghani Masjid in Flushing, his eldest daughter isn't even Muslim anymore and she also married an American, has an American last name.



                  Again, I'm not saying this to be a prick, I'm saying this so we stop pretending that this is some "fringe" and rather confront that this is the state of our expats today. yes there are still Afghans that care about their deen and their farhang and akhlaq, but things we couldmn't imagine has become normal. Our ancestors would feel immense shame if they saw what's prevalent now.

                  These are the Ends Times ....we have to prepare for them and give up on all this false pride B.S.
                  I dont think its the End Times, its natural process of assimilation. American-Pashtuns are getting Americanized/Anglicized. Its no different from Pashtuns who settled in India and are now Indianized for example grandfather of Salman Khan migrated from Afghanistan and now his grandson is almost half Hindu and culturally indistinguishable from other Indians. Same fate is waiting for grandsons of Pashtuns who migrated to America and settled there.

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                  • Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                    In America, majority of Afghans are secular, Majority of Muslims in America are secular whether they admit it or not., even the religious ones. No one here is petitioning for Shari'ah Law, no one here is refusing annuity accruement on their houses. No one is whipping their sons for getting their Mexican girlfriends pregant, no one is chasing down their daughter for running away from home with an American guy.

                    Heck even Sa'aduddin Shpoon's eldest daughter was married to a white guy and had a son with him. She has an Angrez last name now. The only "non-secular" Afghans in the true sense are living in remote villages where their main focus is doing munz and zikr. The Imam of the Jamaluddin Al Afghani Masjid in Flushing, his eldest daughter isn't even Muslim anymore and she also married an American, has an American last name.



                    Again, I'm not saying this to be a prick, I'm saying this so we stop pretending that this is some "fringe" and rather confront that this is the state of our expats today. yes there are still Afghans that care about their deen and their farhang and akhlaq, but things we couldmn't imagine has become normal. Our ancestors would feel immense shame if they saw what's prevalent now.

                    These are the Ends Times ....we have to prepare for them and give up on all this false pride B.S.
                    Its not about pride but being accurate. Sure these things will get the later generations, I have been saying that for years quoting Gloria Estefan "The rhythm is going to (eventually) get you." But for today, I'm not seeing what your seeing regarding marriage maybe because we are living in different parts of the country. The East coast has a different vibe. There are more Afghans where you live and more bad apples. I only know of one Afghan guy who married a convert and now has 6 kids. Most people in the US view marriage as temporary, white people don't even marry each other. The consequence of individualism.

                    Many states have passed laws that ban Shariah law or any law based on religion. The Mormons and the Orthodox Jews who are much more organized than Muslims and less hated have lost all attempts to be ruled by their own laws in civil court cases. Right now the battle is to Reform Islam and the media shames Muslims which has a huge effect on young people which makes them shun religious morals for secular morals. The public School system reinforces liberal views on all populations which most parents are clueless about. Anti Religious moral forces are very strong and are active in every aspect of society.
                    Also our leaders are corrupt, some here have been caught stealing money or using money for personal use. They preach spirituality and then get caught up in materialism. Since most Republicans are Muslims hating anti immigrant warhawks, Muslims tend to side with the Democrats who promote other immoral values but is seen as the lesser evil. The things you mention is an impossibility in this political environment. If it does happen, it will happen either with the Somali community in MN or the Arab community in Michigan since those are the biggest concentration of Muslims in one particular area.
                    Last edited by khushal; 12-23-2018, 04:04 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                      My personal opinion on Jama is that if his pictures and Facebook profiles are real, then he’s probably from junoobi Pakhtunkhwa/Quetta region(probably from the Achakzai tribe but I’m not sure since in my experience Achakzais don’t generally use the Durrani surname) like Iblees said. You can tell from the people he’s connected to and the turban and kamees partoog styles you see in his family pictures.
                      Yeah, but the thing is, my dad's account is the only one mentioning origins, while the others don't and it says: "Fra Kandahar" aka, "From Kandahar".
                      But then again, the uncle i showed, is brother to my dad. You can check the link again about my dad's facebook account. Or are you saying that my dad(middleage man) would lie, if he actually was from KPK/quetta and could just had wrote that down in his account but choose instead to write Kandahar? There are really no reasons to even do that. A pahstun from KPK is just as much pahstun as a pahstun from Helmand. And nobody really cares where they're from in Pakistan/Afghanistan.

                      And my mom's from Kandahar too(she's achekzai, but she does has family in quetta, but i doubt it's because they're originally from Quetta, rather they immigrated there).

                      Seriously, why do you guys think i'm lying/doubting about me being from Kandahar? If i would lie, i wouldn't had said Kandahar but something like Herat or something.

                      You guys talk like you know more about me and my family's identities than we do.
                      Last edited by jama0112; 12-23-2018, 04:11 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                        Actually, he is 100% Black Pakistani/Killzai ....lol no picture necessary, his trademark ghetto trash talk is the give away.
                        Give him some time to post that pic. We don't know if he's mentally unstable and just likes to write down ****.

                        You guys thought for months that i was killzai(maybe you think still. If you do, then you're really paranoid and stupid as well, when all evidence was thrown front of your faces), until i proved you wrong.

                        Give him time until tomorrow. If he hasn't post that kind of pic i told him to post, then we can all agree he's killzai(actually, asking people to take pics of themselves with a note, written with something unpredictable, close to their heads is a great way to show who they really are. I'm glad i thought about this idea, otherwise you all would have thought pic of my face is not mine and kept calling me killzai).

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                        • Originally posted by jama0112 View Post
                          Give him some time to post that pic. We don't know if he's mentally unstable and just likes to write down ****.

                          You guys thought for months that i was killzai(maybe you think still. If you do, then you're really paranoid and stupid as well, when all evidence was thrown front of your faces), until i proved you wrong.

                          Give him time until tomorrow. If he hasn't post that kind of pic i told him to post, then we can all agree he's killzai(actually, asking people to take pics of themselves with a note, written with something unpredictable, close to their heads is a great way to show who they really are. I'm glad i thought about this idea, otherwise you all would have thought pic of my face is not mine and kept calling me killzai).
                          stop upploading hindu pictures of sikhs as your own family hazara mordagow show your real mongo face if you are so desperate what is your problem hazara mongo ai mordagow shia kafir sa wrak mordagow boro gumsho mordagow

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                          • Originally posted by jama0112 View Post
                            Yeah, but the thing is, my dad's account is the only one mentioning origins, while the others don't and it says: "Fra Kandahar" aka, "From Kandahar".
                            But then again, the uncle i showed, is brother to my dad. You can check the link again about my dad's facebook account. Or are you saying that my dad(middleage man) would lie, if he actually was from KPK/quetta and could just had wrote that down in his account but choose instead to write Kandahar? There are really no reasons to even do that. A pahstun from KPK is just as much pahstun as a pahstun from Helmand. And nobody really cares where they're from in Pakistan/Afghanistan.

                            And my mom's from Kandahar too(she's achekzai, but she does has family in quetta, but i doubt it's because they're originally from Quetta, rather they immigrated there).

                            Seriously, why do you guys think i'm lying/doubting about me being from Kandahar? If i would lie, i wouldn't had said Kandahar but something like Herat or something.

                            You guys talk like you know more about me and my family's identities than we do.
                            awlade changez kerem da koss kon hazara beghayrat mordagow

                            sta da khqole tang hazara masadara kozz wokhayema parsiwan fahesha

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                            • Originally posted by Pakhton View Post
                              awlade changez kerem da koss kon hazara beghayrat mordagow

                              sta da khqole tang hazara masadara kozz wokhayema parsiwan fahesha
                              Mah pahsto nedih sam dih au ze dazi wayemeh teh ze derr neh poyashemeh tah tishi wayeh, chi ze rralemeh teh mah ta youw picture shkarah keh au ze berh newayemeh te dirrwarhk wayeh au te killzau neyeah.

                              Dar deerr mishkill neddih. Must tah gylteh torah youwal pic skarah stasi mekhh au stadi larse youw karasunah wakhi au ze rrameleh dasi karas nystadeh: "Zma num de pakhton deh, au ze pahstun yeme, 2660 2660 jama0112".

                              Te wes teh camera wahhkheh au ber te staseh pic upload keyeh au ze gelteh wakh hrabelemeh teh pahstun au ze wayemeh teh killzai neyeh.

                              Yalleh, teh wus daseh pictunah shirooh keh. Ze stateh youwalles sarte rakeh.
                              Last edited by jama0112; 12-23-2018, 09:35 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by jama0112 View Post
                                Mah pahsto nedih sam dih au ze dazi wayemeh teh ze derr neh poyashemeh tah tishi wayeh, chi ze rralemeh teh mah ta youw picture shkarah keh au ze berh newayemeh te dirrwarhk wayeh au te killzau neyeah.

                                Dar deerr mishkill neddih. Must tah gylteh torah youwal pic skarah stasi mekhh au stadi larse youw paper wakhi au ze rrameleh dasi paper nystadeh: "Zma num de pakhton deh, au ze pahstun yeme, 2660 2660 jama0112".

                                Te wes teh camera wahhkheh au ber te staseh pic upload keyeh au ze gelteh wakh hrabelemeh teh pahstun au ze wayemeh teh killzai.

                                Yalleh, teh wus daseh pictunah shirooh keh. Ze stateh youwalles sarte rakeh.
                                what is pahstun?

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