Is Pakistan going back to Pre 80's era of Booze , Bikini's and Bars ?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

How does it feel to be a Pakistani Province since 1979 ? In Pakistan the most menial of jobs are done by people like you . ka dalkhor yema aow ka ghostkhor khu yee zama nokar .

Well then if that is true , you see Afghanistan as a Pakistani province as you claim, implying using proxies to manipulate Afghanistan; then this is basically admission that Pakistan engineered terrorist activities to damage Afghanistan's institutions. Which makes Pakistan usurped Afghanistan and afghans thus have every right to join alliances to undermine Pakistan......are you sure you want to let bravado get the better of you?

This could have disastrous consequences for your country's future.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

What is with afghanis refugees and pretending to be Pakistani? lol

It's actually Pakistanis pretending to be Indian Nationals (even though you are actually Indians anyways), Syrians , Romanians and Afghans when you do fact checking



Europe migrant crisis: Refugees pretending to be Syrian to gain asylum

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[Iblis_Efreetzai]

'' kala ba zay '' is more evident in KP than any other province of Pakistan . Pakistani Pashtuns don't want you here .

It seems the Pashtuns that have that mentality are Gul Khans and they are generally disliked by other Pakistani Pashtuns, because they suck up to Punjabis and they're Mullah wannabes, seen as fake Pashtuns by everyone else.

If this forum is any clue, most of the members who have responded to you, with the exception of myself and Firdousi, are themselves KP originated Pashtiuns; so that demonstrates your rant is just a narrative born out of Pakistan's failed policies to instill nationalism.

[toughpashtun]

It seems the Pashtuns that have that mentality are Gul Khans and they are generally disliked by other Pakistani Pashtuns, because they suck up to Punjabis and they're Mullah wannabes, seen as fake Pashtuns by everyone else.

If this forum is any clue, most of the members who have responded to you, with the exception of myself and Firdousi, are themselves KP originated Pashtiuns; so that demonstrates your rant is just a narrative born out of Pakistan's failed policies to instill nationalism.

Well , the truth is,and whetehr someone likes it or not , that a very large percentage of Pashtuns in Pakistan , be that KP,FATA or Balochistan , have the Gul Khan mentality.So your point that Gul Khans are disliked by Pakistani Pashtuns is flawed , because , most Pakistani Pashtuns are Gul Khans themselves.
By playing the Islam card , as well as linking Afghans with India/Hindus , the mindset of the Pakistani Pashtuns is exactly what can be referred to as 'Gul Khan'.

[Elite Pakhtun]

If this forum is any clue, most of the members who have responded to you, with the exception of myself and Firdousi, are themselves KP originated Pashtiuns; so that demonstrates your rant is just a narrative born out of Pakistan's failed policies to instill nationalism.

You are misinformed. It's only me and Manzareh who had slight opposition (emphasis on slight), and that's only because we feel sorry for pitiful condition of Afghanistan. Dissing Afghanistan is like kicking someone who's already down and out.

Other than that, the others are not Pakistani. Take ZarakDurrani(_X_) for example... he's clearly Afghan. All the others opposing are also Afghan (or Indian).

I'm not for the insults to Afghanistan... but I can see where he's coming from. The unnecessary hostility, exhibited by Afghans, can get under anyone's skin. If it's getting under the skin of someone who's not really patriotic (i.e. me), you bet your ass it'll get under the skin of someone who is highly patriotic.

[logical]

You are misinformed. It's only me and Manzareh who had slight opposition (emphasis on slight), and that's only because we feel sorry for pitiful condition of Afghanistan. Dissing Afghanistan is like kicking someone who's already down and out.

Other than that, the others are not Pakistani. Take ZarakDurrani(_X_) for example... he's clearly Afghan. All the others opposing are also Afghan (or Indian).

I'm not for the insults to Afghanistan... but I can see where he's coming from. The unnecessary hostility, exhibited by Afghans, can get under anyone's skin. If it's getting under the skin of someone who's not really patriotic (i.e. me), you bet your ass it'll get under the skin of someone who is highly patriotic.

In part I agree with you. No point in posting anything positive about Pakistan. It will clearly not be taken in good spirit by Afghanis despite the fact that any development in Pakistan directly or indirectly benefit Pakistani pakhtuns as well. And then mudslinging will start from both sides.

[logical]

Well then if that is true , you see Afghanistan as a Pakistani province as you claim, implying using proxies to manipulate Afghanistan; then this is basically admission that Pakistan engineered terrorist activities to damage Afghanistan's institutions. Which makes Pakistan usurped Afghanistan and afghans thus have every right to join alliances to undermine Pakistan......are you sure you want to let bravado get the better of you?

This could have disastrous consequences for your country's future.

Afghanis already are in bed with Indians. Now days afghanis are called hindu lovers in Pakistan and asked to go back, thats how narrative have changed since last 2 years.

But allah is watching and he will difinetely not side with namakharam people siding with hindus to destroye another muslim country. In fact allah will punish them as he has been doing it till today. If you don't change then you will neither have present or future. Forget about Pakistan.

And this is happening in KPK btw. In other parts of Pakistan they cry wolf and pretend to be pakistani pakhtuns.

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“Afghans used to be called ‘Kabuli’ in Pakistan, but now Pakistanis call them ‘Hindus’ because we signed economic agreements with India,” said Samihullah, who, like many Afghans, goes by one name.

Economic agreements lol? More like support for proxy terrorists who attack Pakistan civilians.

“They were telling us, we chose India’s friendship so we should go to India. We were hiding in our shops and homes to avoid being arrested,” Samihullah said.


Looks like fair deal to me, if you hate this country and love India then get the **** out.

“These people were our guests, we kept them in our house. Afghanistan should be grateful to us,” said a Pakistani army official based in the southern city of Quetta.

“Instead it ... has become buddies with India, it’s like stabbing us in the back.”

Pakistanis were ready to forgive anything but supporting Indian proxy terrorists?

[Az882]

In part I agree with you. No point in posting anything positive about Pakistan. It will clearly not be taken in good spirit by Afghanis despite the fact that any development in Pakistan directly or indirectly benefit Pakistani pakhtuns as well. And then mudslinging will start from both sides.

If you beghairat cucks wanted to post somethings positive about your country and its progress, you would post about somethings Else than what was posted in op.....Afghans are a dignified nation with a high sense of self respect, dont be fooled by our poverty or lack of developement...those things are not shameful to us one bit...what is shameful is what you morons call "progress"....discos, booze, whoring out your mothers and sister and selling out your cultural values for some approval is not what we consider" progress"...we consider that degeneracy...maybe you guys think that is progress but then we might have different values which is fine...Dont blame Afghans for reacting negatively/or not being impressed as you probably expexted by that cultural degeneracy posted in op that you call "progress"...

If your country made actual progress they wouldnt Sell out....but be proud about their own culture and their previously values/moral standards... I am sorry but discos, cuckolding, booze, strip clubs are in No way what Afghans/Muslims define as progress...a society of high moral standards Dont need such things.... That in op is degeneracy but you guys being the mentally colonized people you are, you think whatever your master does must be right...such is the fate of people who become slaves....The subcontinent indeed were colonized and enslaved but Afghans rather die than to kneel to others and sell out...Afghans are One of the few nations who have never been colonized/enslaved...this is just part of our character...what our society is built upon...we can't give Up on that...for No price...you guys might, fine, do as you please...but Dont expect US to do the same...

[ZarakDurrani606]

Well , the truth is,and whetehr someone likes it or not , that a very large percentage of Pashtuns in Pakistan , be that KP,FATA or Balochistan , have the Gul Khan mentality.So your point that Gul Khans are disliked by Pakistani Pashtuns is flawed , because , most Pakistani Pashtuns are Gul Khans themselves.
By playing the Islam card , as well as linking Afghans with India/Hindus , the mindset of the Pakistani Pashtuns is exactly what can be referred to as 'Gul Khan'.

That's where you're man. Our hatred of punjab is more or less inculcated since childhood. And no lol, we don't link Afghans with indians. Rather its the punjabis and their culture thst screams indian.

[logical]

Afghans rather die than to kneel to others and sell out.

This is funny coming from occupied nation. Now mental gymnastics start to explain how this isn't occupation but liberation by USA. lmao

[ZarakDurrani606]

You are misinformed. It's only me and Manzareh who had slight opposition (emphasis on slight), and that's only because we feel sorry for pitiful condition of Afghanistan. Dissing Afghanistan is like kicking someone who's already down and out.

Other than that, the others are not Pakistani. Take ZarakDurrani(_X_) for example... he's clearly Afghan. All the others opposing are also Afghan (or Indian).

I'm not for the insults to Afghanistan... but I can see where he's coming from. The unnecessary hostility, exhibited by Afghans, can get under anyone's skin. If it's getting under the skin of someone who's not really patriotic (i.e. me), you bet your ass it'll get under the skin of someone who is highly patriotic.

Right see this is where the problem lies. Elite pakhtun your kind represents like less than 5%of the total pashtun population that buys the punjabistani state lie. So when i don't buy pakistan's drivel, i'm an Afghan? Well yes, racially that's what the punjabi still consider us as. Ask your parents, in their time this would've been apparent oj their id cards. The 'qomiyat' part...... was labeled Afghan. So yes i identify as racially an Afghan living in Khyber (controlled by punjab). Same can be said for most of the Pashtuns here unless they're mixed race. Do you agree with this or not? Afghan and Pashtun have been used interchangeably for ages..... pakistan and Pashtun?? No. I can attest to that. Whenever a normal Pashtun from say bajaur or dir or even swat goes through one of those police checkpoints, they're stopped and harassed. Now don't deny this please cuz i've witnessed this countless time and their own narrative bears testament to this fact. They don't show you this on geo or ary tv or even khyber tv for that matter. And why should they? Because they're in collusion with the central power, the undisputed king .... the punjabi. Why? Cuz people like you turn a blind eye to your fellow's suffering and turn the other cheek when the tales of atrocities are spread by word of mouth indulgence. Your assumption based on the fact that i did'nt buy your and pakistan's drivel is because i and countless Pashtuns see through it and its laughable. People like you think that those that don't wave paks' flag and not sing jevay jevay pak are either 'endian' or afghan terrorist. Well yup, we gladly embrace the latter part because for us there's culturally/racially no difference between us. Don't play the prevaricate card please, and just know that you represent the tiny, privileged fraction that lives in either isld, lahore or karachi. Go to Khyber now and see with your own eyes, the depredations of Pashtuns. Don't asseverate on my being an "Afghan" just cuz i hate the punjoo and his many deceits.

[ZarakDurrani606]

If you beghairat cucks wanted to post somethings positive about your country and its progress, you would post about somethings Else than what was posted in op.....Afghans are a dignified nation with a high sense of self respect, dont be fooled by our poverty or lack of developement...those things are not shameful to us one bit...what is shameful is what you morons call "progress"....discos, booze, whoring out your mothers and sister and selling out your cultural values for some approval is not what we consider" progress"...we consider that degeneracy...maybe you guys think that is progress but then we might have different values which is fine...Dont blame Afghans for reacting negatively/or not being impressed as you probably expexted by that cultural degeneracy posted in op that you call "progress"...

If your country made actual progress they wouldnt Sell out....but be proud about their own culture and their previously values/moral standards... I am sorry but discos, cuckolding, booze, strip clubs are in No way what Afghans/Muslims define as progress...a society of high moral standards Dont need such things.... That in op is degeneracy but you guys being the mentally colonized people you are, you think whatever your master does must be right...such is the fate of people who become slaves....The subcontinent indeed were colonized and enslaved but Afghans rather die than to kneel to others and sell out...Afghans are One of the few nations who have never been colonized/enslaved...this is just part of our character...what our society is built upon...we can't give Up on that...for No price...you guys might, fine, do as you please...but Dont expect US to do the same...

They lie about the "development" part as well. Most of Khyber is just like Afghanistan (less war torn though). The only "development" is in punjabistan. They suppose building flyovers and roads is good development whilst fully knowing that there leaders pocket most of that profit.

[ZarakDurrani606]

It seems the Pashtuns that have that mentality are Gul Khans and they are generally disliked by other Pakistani Pashtuns, because they suck up to Punjabis and they're Mullah wannabes, seen as fake Pashtuns by everyone else.

If this forum is any clue, most of the members who have responded to you, with the exception of myself and Firdousi, are themselves KP originated Pashtiuns; so that demonstrates your rant is just a narrative born out of Pakistan's failed policies to instill nationalism.

Yeah the gul khans don't really actually live in Khyber, they live in cities like lahore or karachi and bark from behind their computers. Safe and sound, far away from the turbulence of our region. Like some of the members here think that just cuz i don't buy the pakistanyt horse****, i'm an outsider. And it screams of prevarication and evasiveness. That's what the paki army does too. Well i tell them this, go to a kelay in Khyber or in kohistan, they see the pak army as aliens and nothing more than a policing tool. But the thing is, the gul khans and punjabi lapdogs on here that are calling me out don't follow their culture. Like pakistan, his very purpose of opening this thread was ti show us how progressive desis are becoming. What the privileged darling pokhas don't know is that the vast majority of Pashtuns would spit in their faces and call them 'dalla punjabay benanga'. I call em gul khan and lapdogs while they call me Afghan. Fair play i say. Since, they're Pashtuns no more than in name. Desi wannabes who're objectified when some desi sees them speak Pashto. They wanna embrace desism and talk **** about Afghans well they're just following the punjobi narrative, seamlessly, divide the Pashtuns so as to make them easier to control. Congratulation benango.

[ZarakDurrani606]

Well , the truth is,and whetehr someone likes it or not , that a very large percentage of Pashtuns in Pakistan , be that KP,FATA or Balochistan , have the Gul Khan mentality.So your point that Gul Khans are disliked by Pakistani Pashtuns is flawed , because , most Pakistani Pashtuns are Gul Khans themselves.
By playing the Islam card , as well as linking Afghans with India/Hindus , the mindset of the Pakistani Pashtuns is exactly what can be referred to as 'Gul Khan'.

You'd assume that some Pashtuns that have bought the crap they're fed about Pashtuns from across the line would become the norm? Well no, if they were actual gul khan that is to say, if they were prevalent, then punjab would'nt need the army to keep an eye on them and isi agents would'nt maintain observation cells all over Khyber . The "gul khan" mentality is an engineered tool, its a pre emptive strategy designed for control and screams of brainwashing. Pashtuns in FATA are kept under fcr 267, basically making them puppets and kept in a perpetual state of fear. They're poor and backwards, just like the majority of Khyber/kohistan/chitral.

[Az882]

This is funny coming from occupied nation. Now mental gymnastics start to explain how this isn't occupation but liberation by USA. lmao

Your sidetracking is a Clear Sign of someone who has lost, but for the sake of ego, you keep going on, even though whatever you come up with has no significance to the Main topic ( that is = your nation/society selling out the very values it was founded upon just to attain some cheap approval and you being the mindless mentally colonized sheep you are, approve of it)...so this will be the Last of my replies...

Its moronic of you to even think that the occupation is the same as colonization/slavery....they are fighting taliban, not the people or the country....i dont agree with US occupation, buts lets not twist things here,...this is different than clear cut colonization/slavery/conquest that occured in South Asia to your Kind....

And even then, while I don't agree with Taliban, and some of their tactics, I can respect their mentality...these guys are fighting the strongest armies of the world even though the odds are mightily against them...and they keep fighting for whatever they believe in...US already declared Long time that they couldnt Beat them, hence why they are negotiating these days...

Now if the US wanted to do what British did to you guys, make No mistake the whole country would join the Taliban...while your weak kind just rolled over despite outnumbering your enemy by the millions...

But this not the Main topic...Main topic is your people have sold out...everyone can come and **** your women, sisters, moms, you specially like to give them to your white masters, even pay them to come and **** them for you, like in that video in op...you people have lost your manhood..end of topic