Prophet Didn't eat beef

[Karachi]

What a load of ****, look at pakis they are full of Hindu heritage and culture. Although they don't admit it or as openly proud of their history like Iraqis, Africans etc Because unlike them your pre-Islamic people were and are ganjees bathing, cow piss drinking, disgusting ugarbati smelling, sexist female aborting people that worship gods which run around raping people. Who would embrace being related to a bunch of skinny rat looking greasy bobble head trolls. Don't even compare yourself to Mesopotamians, ancient Africa or Parsa. Clown

This is your filthy paki mind speaking, degrading all hindus by your limited paki mindset and knowledge. How many hindus even do all that? less then .001%.
The hindus I have met here in Canada are a 100 times better then a filthy Paki can ever be. no wonder rest of the world has respect for Indians/hindus.

Also Mesopotamia was one the of the biggest trading partners of Indus civilization, India has a great civilization that the world respects, only you are against it, but that will change soon, as you are wiped off this planet

[Karachi]

Was there any need for this?

There is an ayah about which says not to mock the Gods of other religion because they will in turn mock Allah (swt).

An Indian can turn around mention te hadith about Camel Piss drink having benifits. Is Camel piss better than cow piss?

Indians have made countless contributions to civilization, invention of surgery, the use of number zero without which modern mathermatics wouldn't be possible. There are countless other contributions if one bothers to look up. All socities have good and bad in them and I don't agree with Karachi's recent tirade against certain groups of people but responding like that only makes them feel, they were correct that muslims, Pakistanis, Pashtuns etc are narrow minded. Maybe if more Pakistanis were like Karachi who embrace their past rather than try to be the descendents of Arabs and Persians, they might have less unnecessary problems with India.

They will only change their mind set once they get out of Pakistan and actually meet their bitter enemies (Hindus), Pakis are brainwashed since childhood to hate hindus in the most disgusting of ways

[Karachi]

You mention health benefits as if it supersedes religious obligations, as if to disregard the fact that hindu's count cow urine as holy and divine. There's a big difference. In Islam we can even eat pork if it is medicinal and there is no alternative and a last resort.

I'm not a pacifist neither is Islam pacifistic, i'm in my full right to speak in the same manner to an individual that brings disrespect my way. You are free conduct yourself in whichever way you wish, however bare in mind that on the day of judgement you along with the other administrators will have to answer why you sat back and allowed people to mock Allah and his Nabi. There is a verse in Surah Nisa that says do not even sit in a gathering where people are cursing and mocking God and his religion, now you people are taking it one step further in inviting their hatred into your house and forcing every other Muslim here to tolerate such vulgarity, in a way you are as guilty as the third party is. Atleast i'm combating them to an extent and keeping them in their place, i wasnt raised a christian to turn my other cheek when slapped or have Budhist ideologies instilled inside me, i treat people the way they treat me. I give respect where its due and fire back at those that violate. Lakum deenakum wal yadeen

Also for your information, Vishnu raping is a well known religious article and fact, Its not a baseless curse..what you want me to do hide it?

There is rape of slaves encouraged in the Quran too, you wana talk about that first, or are you too ashamed?

why do you think ISIS captures 10 year old non muslim girls and rapes them?

[Manzareh]

Allah is greater than your ego and someone's mockery. If someone disrespects Islam or the prophet, you mention the truth and then take your leave from that gathering.

Is that a command? One second you are calling random people prostitutes the next your giving speches on etiquettes?? stfu hypocrite

How can Islam say that pork is unclean and haram and then suggest it's okay to have pork if it's "for medical reasons"??

Not saying there is any medicinal benefits to pork, it was an example you idiot. Pork is haram but in a life and death situation we are permitted to eat it.

Islam is a religion of peace. You are not a pacifist. You can't attract people to the goodness of any religion by belittling them.

I'm not trying to attract anyone to anything, i couldnt give a rats ass whether apostates like yourself or Hindus like Karachi die as you are.

[Manzareh]

This is your filthy paki mind speaking, degrading all hindus by your limited paki mindset and knowledge. How many hindus even do all that? less then .001%.
The hindus I have met here in Canada are a 100 times better then a filthy Paki can ever be. no wonder rest of the world has respect for Indians/hindus, but pakis like u are known as terrorists, wife beaters, bacha baaz criminals.

Also Mesopotamia was one the of the biggest trading partners of Indus civilization you chutia harami, India has a great civilization that the world respects, only you haram khors are against it, but that will change soon, as you haramis are wiped off this planet

Just a load of blabbering as usual, no content or truth in this tantrum.

[MENTION=18139]Shapur[/MENTION] where is your lecture now?

[Manzareh]

Pakis are brainwashed since childhood to hate hindus in the most disgusting of ways

Kinda like the way your Bap raised you against Pakistanis right? you are the biggest racist and xenophobe this forum has ever seen. Nature or Nurture or both has made you into a serious psychotic and sinister character, the lengths you have gone for years on your agenda is hilarious and creepy at the same time. Go get a life.. and no taking pictures from a brochure and imagining you went somewhere is not counted.

[Shapur]

You mention health benefits as if it supersedes religious obligations, as if to disregard the fact that hindu's count cow urine as holy and divine. There's a big difference. In Islam we can even eat pork if it is medicinal and there is no alternative and a last resort.

I know that cows are sacred for some reason among Hindus but I am not quite sure if drinking cow urine is as popular as people make it out to be. I mainly hear this cow piss drinking, ganges bathing etc from Pakistanis to bash Hindus. Ofcourse, Hindus are not innocent either when they disrespect muslims and Pakistanis. I am myself guilty of this sort of thinking but when you give time and effort understand other people's religions, you can make more sense of their rituals. Most people however aren't bothered about the truth or reasons behind things and just want to get one up on others. I am not saying what they do is right or wrong but where they are coming from and at least be respectful even if what they do is wrong.

I'm not a pacifist neither is Islam pacifistic, i'm in my full right to speak in the same manner to an individual that brings disrespect my way. You are free conduct yourself in whichever way you wish, however bare in mind that on the day of judgement you along with the other administrators will have to answer why you sat back and allowed people to mock Allah and his Nabi. There is a verse in Surah Nisa that says do not even sit in a gathering where people are cursing and mocking God and his religion, now you people are taking it one step further in inviting their hatred into your house and forcing every other Muslim here to tolerate such vulgarity, in a way you are as guilty as the third party is. Atleast i'm combating them to an extent and keeping them in their place, i wasnt raised a christian to turn my other cheek when slapped or have Budhist ideologies instilled inside me, i treat people the way they treat me. I give respect where its due and fire back at those that violate. Lakum deenakum wal yadeen

There are a few sayings of Hazrat Ali (ra) which talk about silence being the best reply to idiots and to only speak when your words are better than silence. I am not implying that you stop speaking your mind, all I am saying is we as muslims hold ourselves to a higher standard so we shouldn't stoop to their level even if they insult us. I know everyone is different and have their own methods of dealing with things. Fire can only be extinguished by water not more fire. Silence doesn't imply weakness and aggression doesn't always imply strength.

I banned Karachi for 2 weeks for his behaviour, and wouldn't hesitate to do so again. This forum encourages free speech and if we were to strictly follow islamic teaching, then we shouldn't allow posting of music, certain images with female hair showing etc either. This is Pashtun forums and not Islam forum, people of all beliefs are welcome here as long as they discuss things in a civilized manner. Islam is much more open to free speech than people would think.

Also for your information, Vishnu raping is a well known religious article and fact, Its not a baseless curse..what you want me to do hide it?

I am not aware of such a thing so I would take your word for it but I have a hard time believing that a religion like Hinduism would have a God who rapes or encourages rape. This reminds me of Islamophobes who quote Quranic verses out of context to say killing kufar is always allowed without understanding the context of the verse.

[Shapur]

There is rape of slaves encouraged in the Quran too, you wana talk about that first, or are you too ashamed?

why do you think ISIS captures 10 year old non muslim girls and rapes them?

Care to prove Quran encourages rape of slaves?

Also, ISIS are Khawarij meaning they are outside the fold of Islam according to majority of muslims thus non muslims.

[DaZahroJaam.]

Is that a command? One second you are calling random people prostitutes the next your giving speches on etiquettes?? stfu hypocrite



Not saying there is any medicinal benefits to pork, it was an example you idiot. Pork is haram but in a life and death situation we are permitted to eat it.



I'm not trying to attract anyone to anything, i couldnt give a rats ass whether apostates like yourself or Hindus like Karachi die as you are.

Do you know what takabur is?? Do you know why iblees ended up in hell?? He was sure that his 2000 years of worship was going to redeem his sin.
You sound like a five year old kid in diapers that is about to burst in tears because someone stole the cookie from his hand. If you don't give a rat's ass about attracting others towards the goodness of Islam and the matter is not of your hurt ego then why are you so pissed off?? God doesn't need you to act like a spoilt brat to proof your faith in him, he can see inside you as well as the rest of us. Who are you trying to convince with your little tantrum here?? Get a grip on your emotions and stop acting like a man child, then move on defending your religion. That too, with your actions, not tantrums.

[DaZahroJaam.]

also, next time you want to insult someone for not being pashtun enough for your taste, you may want to learn some basic pashto words instead of inserting random panjabi ones in to your speech.

Da khalqa sura sharam nishta, kala ba hindwan nanga kay, kala ba ungrezaan nanga kay.
Pukhtana sura jung nashi kaweleh. Da roos ow america la kwana dere warkawelidi loll khpal zaan na pejani, pa internet naraan she kho pa maydaan ke shrakoona te ubasu.

the pashto word for naked is barbaND or loos, not "nanga", you dumbass.

[Elite Pakhtun]

Manzareh is right. If it's a life or death situation, you are allowed to consume pork. Starving is a good example.

He is also right about the "eye for an eye" thing. Some people I spoke with say it's the most basic concept of Karma which also happens to be reflected in Islam.

Anyhoo... Karachi, you have yet to tell me whether muslims diss hindus for eating meat or only beef? Also, Karachi... most of the people here already live abroad. They very likely have met many many Hindus, so your lecture isn't very useful.

[Manzareh]

Do you know what takabur is?? Do you know why iblees ended up in hell?? He was sure that his 2000 years of worship was going to redeem his sin.
You sound like a five year old kid in diapers that is about to burst in tears because someone stole the cookie from his hand. If you don't give a rat's ass about attracting others towards the goodness of Islam and the matter is not of your hurt ego then why are you so pissed off?? God doesn't need you to act like a spoilt brat to proof your faith in him, he can see inside you as well as the rest of us. Who are you trying to convince with your little tantrum here?? Get a grip on your emotions and stop acting like a man child, then move on defending your religion. That too, with your actions, not tantrums.

Remind yourself of the Iblees story the next time you call people prostitues and spew uncensored vulgarity. Like I said practice what you preach. Don't go around acting the teacher when you fail to be a student of your own lectures. Also, when I give you self proclaimed kafirs a taste of your own medicine by bringing to light some of your obsurditys it cannot be anything to do with my ego since the arguements here are not personal but rather in defence of a religion. It's not proving my Islam to God either as this comes through other things. I'm reminding you morons to look at your own pathetic ideologies and followings before you start spewing blasphemous accusations you have on the specific faith in question. Now stop trying to act smart by going on a tangent all the time and assuming shiit which is a mere conclusion of your feeble opinionated mindset. Simple

[Manzareh]

also, next time you want to insult someone for not being pashtun enough for your taste, you may want to learn some basic pashto words instead of inserting random panjabi ones in to your speech.


the pashto word for naked is barbaND or loos, not "nanga", you dumbass.

Insult someone for not being Pashtun enough for my taste?? What the heck are jumping on to now?? Lool talking unrelated BS as usual I guess. 'Nang' means pride, to take honour in something - it's a word in Pashto, 'nanga' is how we use it in our sides, Elite is from Peshawar he knows what I mean. Not sure where you got 'naked' from, most probly from your Bollywood addiction. Pashtuns understand that perfectly so to hell with your advise. Take your tuition BS where it will be appreciated.. Damn know it alls, boring.

Speaking on the subject of English here. Why is it always the fresh pots that highlight issues of literature, grammar and spelling on unrelated material such as text messaging on cell phones or informal conversations on a forum? .. It's because language is something new to you, few years ago you was learning the alphabet and now speaking English is something to show off about to your reletives back home and people around you in ur silly circle, truth is aslong as people in the west understand what you are saying they really do not give a damn whether you use the correct grammar or not, it's not really a big deal to us. How you don't feel like a complete **** by treating everything as a grand peice of academic writing is beyond me.. Sort your apoo corner shop accent out before you start giving out free lessons in language lol thank you come again.

[DaZahroJaam.]

no, you should remind people of what is wrong and what is right, not measure the amount of right or wrong in their characters. i don't recall going to anyone and making it personal and about them by telling them last week they were 20 percent prostitutish.

i said this behaviour is prostitute like. and if you must, tell me i am right or wrong, right there and on that spot. don't come back to me two weeks later and bring that statement in to an argument that has nothing to do with that subject when you are confronted about something totally different.

and if you must do that because you have nothing else on your side to defend your stand, do so in a manner that is not going to prove you more of an idiot than the person you are arguing against, is trying to accuse you of being.

you don't get to not give a rat's ass because you are going out of your way to tell others how to be a good muslim. when you do that, you are responsible for your own actions more so than you would be otherwise.

you come from a way of thought that does not want to convince the person of opposition belief of what they believe in. isis doesn't give a rat's ass about people's opinion of what they don't believe in. kim jung doesn't give a rat's ass. you don't get to not give a rat's ass in a discussion forum because you can't intimidate or force people to follow your ideology. you have to explain it and give lots of rat asses in the process of doing that.

[DaZahroJaam.]

i have never heard of "nang" or "ghairat" being pronounced as "nanga". where are you from so i can verify this claim of yours??