Ur response?

[Roshina]

If a woman carries herself in a dignified manner it won't happen the second time by the same man.

This is completely untrue. It may depend on which society you live in (I doubt even that, though), but it is completely untrue for at least most females. And as some females here have said, nothing helps them in keeping men away, even dressing what you'd consider decently or modestly or Islamically.

However, would it be safe for me to assume that you're saying that the only reason a female would get teased by the same man more than once is if she's not carrying herself in a "dignified" manner? In which case, it's the woman's fault for getting harassed?

As I always say, let the women talk when they're the ones who know better about a certain topic or situation -- like this one.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

This is completely untrue. It may depend on which society you live in (I doubt even that, though), but it is completely untrue for at least most females. And as some females here have said, nothing helps them in keeping men away, even dressing what you'd consider decently or modestly or Islamically.

However, would it be safe for me to assume that you're saying that the only reason a female would get teased by the same man more than once is if she's not carrying herself in a "dignified" manner? In which case, it's the woman's fault for getting harassed?

As I always say, let the women talk when they're the ones who know better about a certain topic or situation -- like this one.

You see dearest sister,

one has to adjust to one's environment. That is why in certain environment to be in the presence of a mahram is so important. and in certain cases to go fully veiled

Another note, sister, sometimes when Allah's wrath hits a people, He makes them lose all sense of dignity. Muslim countries are especially a good example of this today. Not even a full veil can help a woman in Muslim countries.

These are signs to look for when judging if Allah is angry with a particular country or not.

I am not saying that Western countries are safe, but here a woman can wear simple clothes without even going veiled in some cases and she won't be harassed.

[PFgulalai]

This topic is encouraging discussion on what to say. I totally disagree with a woman degrading herself to respond to a pervert.

Women are dignified. They have been created as such. Don't let a loser take that away from you by responding to him.

Oh, so you mean to say that the next time a guy attacks a girl to rape her, she should not respond???What the hell!!!
If a woman responds to protect herself against the beast, she is is degrading herself? What the hell!
A woman allowing a man degrading her, should remain dignified by not responding to him in order to avoid degrading herself.What the hell!!

[PFgulalai]

dressing modestly would obviously help. Its common sense.

Shlombay, if not 100%, majority of the Pashtanee here do dress modestly (I assume here).Yet they do not consider safe.Why is itso hard to accept the reality that women do get harassed all across the globe,whether covered or uncovered, verbal or physical, or at home or outside on streets. What kind of a lame logic is this? Being Muslim or Christian does not help you in not getting harassed my males.I am talking about this--the REAL/IMPERFECT--world, I don't know if you live in some PERFECT world of yours.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Shlombay, if not 100%, majority of the Pashtanee here do dress modestly (I assume here).Yet they do not consider safe.Why is itso hard to accept the reality that women do get harassed all across the globe,whether covered or uncovered, verbal or physical, or at home or outside on streets. What kind of a lame logic is this? Being Muslim or Christian does not help you in not getting harassed my males.I am talking about this--the REAL/IMPERFECT--world, I don't know if you live in some PERFECT world of yours.

wo pa pekhawar saddar bazaar khalk ham tsa kam na woo..zanae wakhtoona ba kha spak starrgae ae raamakhae kawall....even when people have their faces covered.

P.S. this isn't anti pekhawar just an example...I love pekhawar.

[PFgulalai]

All I meant to say was yes they might get harassed but by wearing a scarf or hijab the harassment will decrease. It obviously will not go away. My friends will tease a girl who is exposing her rear end first before they ever go up to a hijabi girl. Its the nature of men.

My observations and experiences (real!!) are different than the propositions that you are presenting here. Bad men harass women whether they are wearing Hijab or wearing the minimum-essential. Good men do not harass women--covered or uncovered. Good women like good men.Bad women like bad men.That is my conclusion.

[PFgulalai]

wo pa pekhawar saddar bazaar khalk ham tsa kam na woo..zanae wakhtoona ba kha spak starrgae ae raamakhae kawall....even when people have their faces covered.

P.S. this isn't anti pekhawar just an example...I love pekhawar.

Au kana BLS, ma pa khapal goonahgaro stargoo tamashe karee de..moonga pa Bazaar ki wror au plaar sara ba chi woo no ughwee ba raana geer chapeera garzedaa..au chi mor ya tror sara ba woo, no bya bum khair na woo...pa akhira by moonga Saddar ta tlaal preekha..doomra shamaol ba woo chi bas tapos ye ma kawa..au da hom chi la pakee ghat saloo au pooza pata karee wee..Pekhawar wee au ka New York, kharab saree hom yaw shantee wee...

P.S. I love Pekhawar too.Pekhawar kho Pekhawar de kana

[ayub]

lolz nowadays hijabis wear skin tight chest hugging clothes..many hijabis are the biggest hypocrites.

As for hijab protecting woman or hijabis being stared at...it's the men who have the issues not the women. Women shouldn't really need to cover up especially in a 'muslim' country because all the men their would of course be 'good' Muslims who wouldn't dare look at a woman.

Men are the problem. Men should put on blindfolds that way they won't see women and lust after them.

Okay, imma go e-flirt on a different thread now. Lolz.

[Fahd]

haa haa
if u don't wear hijap ayub i will stareing at u

[IamDZJ]

lolz nowadays hijabis wear skin tight chest hugging clothes..many hijabis are the biggest hypocrites.

As for hijab protecting woman or hijabis being stared at...it's the men who have the issues not the women. Women shouldn't really need to cover up especially in a 'muslim' country because all the men their would of course be 'good' Muslims who wouldn't dare look at a woman.

Men are the problem. Men should put on blindfolds that way they won't see women and lust after them.

Okay, imma go e-flirt on a different thread now. Lolz.

you can donate the future of your off springs in to creating however type of the society that you wish to see in future.

[Mayana]

^Well, you will always have people who will go beyond all bounds.

A woman should do her part, physically, verbally and mentally, and leave the rest in the hands of Allah. That is all Allah can expect from you.

Leave the rest to Allah..?
Why should men not do their part? I do my part, I know countless women who do - yet that doesn't keep men from harassing women - be she naked, be she covered.

If a man has bad intentions and no Haya, he will disrespect a woman, no matter if she wears Hijab or not. Because if he HAD Haya he wouldn't look at women with such an eye in the first place and lower his gaze. Waqt'e ke Adam behaya baasha, na Hijab faida mekona na Qaid o Bas. A behaya man will be behaya, khalas.

[Fahd]

^women the most daneger's thing for men
do u know what's that mean ?

[PFgulalai]

Gulalai,
If a women is wearing a hijab and she is walking next to someone with skin tight booty shirts the bad man will go for the booty shorts one first.

Hijabis do not face as many insults as non-Hijabis do. I am born in New York, I have friends that teased women with skin tight clothes. The minute a Hijabi passed "Na, she religious don't mess with her". So my observations(real) tell me that Hijab helps out a woman.

Your (real) experiences are limited to New York and your friends. My experiences are concerned with the harassment of women folk in general, wherever they live or whatever dress they wear. While they cover their heads, they do wear Jeans. So what would you say then?If covering the body would save one from men, why are the Hijab-wearing women on this thread complaining? More importantly, why women get sexually assaulted in Muslim countries?

[Fahd]

women do make up and they have good looking
then why u do the make up for what
for men's
u r killing men's then
haa haa
no that's real

[Fahd]

Your (real) experiences are limited to New York and your friends. My experiences are concerned with the harassment of women folk in general, wherever they live or whatever dress they wear. While they cover their heads, they do wear Jeans. So what would you say then?If covering the body would save one from men, why are the Hijab-wearing women on this thread complaining? More importantly, why women get sexually assaulted in Muslim countries?

there many ppl not muslime do that
u r don't know what happend in this world
there so many big men
plyeing by ppl mind's they spend milloin's for that's
u most get shame for don't let girl pot hijap