Proof that Karachi Who Now Insults Pashtuns as "Bacha Baz" is a Pashtun wannabe.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Dumbass, why did you learn the language (English)??? to fit in, why do wear western attire, again to fit in, why do you use the internet, again to fit in, I can go on and on. Everybody does this every where, nothing unique about it. This is not begharat, again begharat is when a father decides to sell his young son to a dirty old man for sex, this is happening everywhere in your society, This is the peak of being Begharat

The argument you're making is absolute logical nonsense. Using the internet to fit in? The Internet is a TOOL. not a social status symbol. Language is a tool, NOT a social status symbol. Even the clothes we wear are necessities, they only become "status symbols" when we wear them for the PURPOSE of fitting in, otherwise they're not.

Claiming you're an ethnicity that you're not, especially when doing so without duress or threat, then bad mouthing that ethnicity; is just Cowardly, spineless and dishonorable behavior. It also shows you're a sociopath.

You didn't evolve, You just changed color, like a chameleon, not an intellectual. You are a fraud

[Karachi]

I believe people evolve and change, but no doubt Karachi is just talking fluff as a way of rationalizing his discrepancies.There's a qualitative difference of someone who seeks Truth, they don't jump to one extreme position to the other. Karachi went from claiming he's a devout Muslim to supporting attacking Muslims and persecuting them. He used to kiss up to Pashtuns, now he makes exaggerated claims that 50% of Pashtun men indulge in pederasty(bacha baz).

It's one thing to confront social problems like child exploitation and abuse. It's another to distort them. That's the opposite of truth. This is not someone who seeks Truth, this is someone that is volatile and unstable. It's no doubt he's just trying to back peddle after getting caught.

The truth comes very suddenly one day when you are seeking it. I mean why in the world would I support a culture, where Bacha Bazi is so normal. Indeed I was a fool to even think good of you before, I was ignorant back then, this is why I use to support Pashtuns, Pakistan, heck I even made some positive comments regarding the organization like Muslim brotherhood, which Randoph and Barakzai support. That was just crazy of me, when I think about it now. I have a firm stand now, which I will never ever change, certainly I will never go back the cavemen culture. Ever since I have started believing in being more human, rather then Islamic superiority, things have much more peaceful and better in my mind, I am thinking more clearly and making better decision in my personal life.

[Karachi]

The argument you're making is absolute logical nonsense. Using the internet to fit in? The Internet is a TOOL. not a social status symbol. Language is a tool, NOT a social status symbol. Even the clothes we wear are necessities, they only become "status symbols" when we wear them for the PURPOSE of fitting in, otherwise they're not.

Claiming you're an ethnicity that you're not, especially when doing so without duress or threat, then bad mouthing that ethnicity; is just Cowardly, spineless and dishonorable behavior. It also shows you're a sociopath.

You didn't evolve, You just changed color, like a chameleon, not an intellectual. You are a fraud

Lol, so learning English and wearing western attire is necessity now? You morons do it to fit in, everyone does this

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Lol, so learning English and wearing western attire is necessity now?

If you live in America or Britain yes; It's not like you can get a parhan tumban from Target and it's not like I could have passed my exams in Dari. Time to return to the real world Karachi; there's no way you're going to shoehorn Your Posing as Pashtun with practical activities LOL The comparison is incongruent. You're being intellectually dishonest and just trying to make yourself feel better. Rather pathetic.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

The truth comes very suddenly one day when you are seeking it. I mean why in the world would I support a culture, where Bacha Bazi is so normal. Indeed I was a fool to even think good of you before, I was ignorant back then, this is why I use to support Pashtuns, Pakistan, heck I even made some positive comments regarding the organization like Muslim brotherhood, which Randoph and Barakzai support. That was just crazy of me, when I think about it now. I have a firm stand now, which I will never ever change, certainly I will never go back the cavemen culture. Ever since I have started believing in being more human, rather then Islamic superiority, things have much more peaceful and better in my mind, I am thinking more clearly and making better decision in my personal life.

Even then, in your case, it's still dishonest. You went and blatantly made up a statistic that you had no research data to support. You started parroting the xenophobic ignorance of typical right wingers in the United States, which is OBVIOUSLY not based on Truth but rather hysteria.

And even right now you're lying; because in fact you used to be more easy going before. Now you're very obnoxious. You even started an argument with me in a post about music or a post about a child in a rural village. Those aren't the characteristics of a person at peace. You are fooling yourself sir. Not us.

[Karachi]

Even then, in your case, it's still dishonest. You went and blatantly made up a statistic that you had no research data to support. You started parroting the xenophobic ignorance of typical right wingers in the United States, which is OBVIOUSLY not based on Truth but rather hysteria.

And even right now you're lying; because in fact you used to be more easy going before. Now you're very obnoxious. You even started an argument with me in a post about music or a post about a child in a rural village. Those aren't the characteristics of a person at peace. You are fooling yourself sir. Not us.

Those stats are not made up, they are backed up by a research paper

[Karachi]

If you live in America or Britain yes; It's not like you can get a parhan tumban from Target and it's not like I could have passed my exams in Dari. Time to return to the real world Karachi; there's no way you're going to shoehorn Your Posing as Pashtun with practical activities LOL The comparison is incongruent. You're being intellectually dishonest and just trying to make yourself feel better. Rather pathetic.

Everyone does (fitting in) when they go some where new, whether it is a new forum or a new country, later on things change, once they find out the truth, samething happend with me, I didn't know about the Bacha Bazi aspect of Pashtun culture back then, If I knew this, I would have never made that post

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Those stats are not made up, they are backed up by a research paper

No they're not, no where in the paper does it make that statistic. And it's not research, it's a field report. Do you know how research is conducted?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Everyone does (fitting in) when they go some where new, whether it is a new forum or a new country, later on things change, once they find out the truth, samething happend with me, I didn't know about the Bacha Bazi aspect of Pashtun culture back then, If I knew this, I would have never made that post

There's a difference between fitting in naturally, or fitting in because you're trying to appease other people. If you just happened to fit in because of who you are, that's just who you are. If you're TRYING TO FIT in it says a lot about your character. I can understand a 10 year old who maybe learning to develop an identity might be doing that. but you're already a grown up, that's a personality trait.

To me what it says about you is that you're a chameleon. Who knows if you even evolved as you said? You might have been as you are all along but wanted to fool everyone to "fit in" until you knew the time was right to be your real self. This is sociopathic behavior.

[Samandri]

again, your a idiot to dig up 5-6 years old posts. when I joined this forum, I had a lots of respect for Pashtuns and central asians in general, like most Indics do in general, but that was before I found things like (bacha Bazi) and many other problems with your culture. You can say a lot of things about Indians or desis, but after seeing you, I am glad that Allah made me desi and Indian and not central asian. Indians are rising and doing well in almost every field, yes we still have a long way to go, but we are moving there. But for your culture this is possible with the mindset you have, and where things like Bacha Bazi are so normal, where parents are selling their kids to old men, Where women are treated as jailed inmates, what kind of culture is that? it's hell on earth

Tarek Fateh has taught you to be a proud Indian?, Kudos to him. But why you are still calling yourself 'Karachi", mother-fu.......

[Samandri]

It was influenced by Dari because the Pashtuns (and Mughals) were highly Persianized. Tajiks have never been able to move out of the confines of Central Asia, and I can't find a single Tajik dynasty in India. If you can find me some however, the idea that Tajiks settled in India might sound more believable.

Karachi is blabbing non-sense in nervousness......All the so called Persian nobles of Mughals were from present-day Iran, with Shiraz city contributing the most. Even the ones from Kabul, had roots from present-day Iran for example Mahabat Khan.....Mughals have recorded the biographies of their umaras or nobles. And the Persians, as well as Mughals, did not settle in some village of Uttarpradesh, they were confined to cities and big towns, not into zamindari. Karachi, the kin of Altaf Hussain, has been cornered by Efritzai, so he has suddenly become all Tajiki which is not helping at all.

[Karachi]

Tarek Fateh has taught you to be a proud Indian?, Kudos to him. But why you are still calling yourself 'Karachi", mother-fu.......

Karachi city was Indian way before Pakistan was created, it was a Sindhi Gujrati city, not a half Pashtun city like today

[Karachi]

Karachi is blabbing non-sense in nervousness......All the so called Persian nobles of Mughals were from present-day Iran, with Shiraz city contributing the most. Even the ones from Kabul, had roots from present-day Iran for example Mahabat Khan.....Mughals have recorded the biographies of their umaras or nobles. And the Persians, as well as Mughals, did not settle in some village of Uttarpradesh, they were confined to cities and big towns, not into zamindari. Karachi, the kin of Altaf Hussain, has been cornered by Efritzai, so he has suddenly become all Tajiki which is not helping at all.

The so called Turkic Dynasties of India came from present day Tajikistan and western Afghanistan, this is well known in academia, they had the most influence in India, not Pashtuns. Mughals were of course related to Mongols/Turks, nothing to with Pashtuns. Most Pashtuns were raiders of India and they never built anything or contributed anything

[Samandri]

The so called Turkic Dynasties of India came from present day Tajikistan and western Afghanistan, this is well known in academia, they had the most influence in India, not Pashtuns. Mughals were of course related to Mongols/Turks, nothing to with Pashtuns. Most Pashtuns were raiders of India and they never built anything or contributed anything

Whats your relationship with Tarek Fateh? object or subject?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

The so called Turkic Dynasties of India came from present day Tajikistan and western Afghanistan, this is well known in academia, they had the most influence in India, not Pashtuns. Mughals were of course related to Mongols/Turks, nothing to with Pashtuns. Most Pashtuns were raiders of India and they never built anything or contributed anything

Even if that were so, which is actually inaccurate. They were not Tajiks.