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  • #16
    That said to this day I believe (Salafism) is the the most real form of islam, Thats why I think ISIS is following what their texts say. Sufism on the hand is just a mix of Hinduism, buddhism, animism etc... that is not real Islam at all

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    • #17
      i am between some what religious and very religious, there were days when i was moving away from God and did not practice islam, then i asked God to show me the righteous path and now i am religious and an obedient muslim. i pray five times a day with mosque most of the time. one reason is my beloved lives next to mosque.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Karachi View Post
        I was a lot in to religion studying from every source I could find, I use to pray 5 times, heck I was forcing my brothers to pray. I was a member of the Salafi mosque here in Mississauga Canada, I even did my Summer Classes in madrassah here in Chatham Ontario. I was under the influence of several people and friends back then
        That can't be true, you've been a member here for a very long time. Let's be honest you don't even seem to know the basics or even grasp simple Islamic concepts. So don't give us the 'I've studied from every source' story like badlun. Seriously, your knowledge of Islam just like zahrojaam is elementary if anything, probly why both of you are apostates.
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        *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

        Originally posted by Karachi
        like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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        • #19
          Funny how the least knowledgeable people in any topic are the first to say they are experts, yet the experts say they know nothing.
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          *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

          Originally posted by Karachi
          like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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          • #20
            Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
            no shamlawar. just because i am amazed by something does not mean i am going to start worshiping it. i believe in God but not necessarily due to the things that are taught out there. spirituality comes from within while religiousness has an outsider for the source.
            It is a natural tendency of human beings to experience spirituality when facing certain aspects of nature. Prayer and recitation of Quran are no substitute for such experiences. What I gathered from your previous post sounded to me like animism. they also believe in God. Various types of animism define God in different ways.
            Originally posted by Firdousi
            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
              That can't be true, you've been a member here for a very long time. Let's be honest you don't even seem to know the basics or even grasp simple Islamic concepts. So don't give us the 'I've studied from every source' story like badlun. Seriously, your knowledge of Islam just like zahrojaam is elementary if anything, probly why both of you are apostates.
              I know quite a few people like Karachi. It is possible and it happens quite often.
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                I know quite a few people like Karachi. It is possible and it happens quite often.
                What is possible?
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                *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                Originally posted by Karachi
                like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                  shut your ****ing face. if i am happy through out my days in life, i will survive the grave too. your faith is selfish. you believe in God because you are afraid that if you don't you will burn and ooo, that is so bad. mine is not. i have no guilt in my heart for believing in what i believe in. i am sure God is not going to stand me to burn in the same line of sinners who have killed, robbed or stolen. he can't be that selfish. if he stands me in a different line that leads to another pit of fire, specifically for those who believed him to be kinder than he actually was, i will burn gladly. so yeah..not scared of the grave.

                  Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
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                  you believe in God because you are afraid that if you don't you will burn
                  What a ridiculous statement - If i didn't believe in God in the first instance then why would i make myself believe in him just to avoid being burnt, i woudnt be scared of being burnt because i dont believe in him. Obviously in order to fear his punishments i will have to initially believe in him FIRST.
                  I believe in Allah because of the world, universe and signs all around me. I fear him because we have been ordered to fear him.

                  A murderer and thief will eventually come out of hell, but one that dismisses the Quran and doesnt acknowledge Allah as God will be there forever. You are giving the big tough talk, we shall see if you are brave enough when the time comes for the soul to leave that well fed body of yours.

                  I'm sure Satan doesn't have guilt for believing in what he believes either, the similarities are uncanny.

                  Believe what you want to believe if it makes you feel better, facts remain the same.
                  Last edited by Manzareh; 04-14-2016, 09:20 AM.
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                  *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                  Originally posted by Karachi
                  like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                    This is the problem with Islam, there is no room for even a little debate, anyone who tries to question somethings, usually gets killed. Is this your so called "peaceful" faith?

                    Well I already know it's not peaceful, but you muslims sure try to fool non muslims, but even most of them are not getting fooled now
                    There's always room for debate in Islam, and our scholars are constantly debating, debate is healthy. However understandably core principles are not debatable.

                    I don't need to fool anyone, what will i gain from fooling you? what benefit can i get from fooling you. Get a grip.
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                    *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                    Originally posted by Karachi
                    like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                      What is possible?
                      Apostasy.
                      Originally posted by Firdousi
                      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                        That can't be true, you've been a member here for a very long time. Let's be honest you don't even seem to know the basics or even grasp simple Islamic concepts. So don't give us the 'I've studied from every source' story like badlun. Seriously, your knowledge of Islam just like zahrojaam is elementary if anything, probly why both of you are apostates.
                        Wtf are you talking about? Have I ever discussed anything about Islamic knowledge here? what do you know how much knowledge I have?

                        Also it doesn't take scientist to figure out the negative things in the Quran and Hadiths. There are many!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                          There's always room for debate in Islam, and our scholars are constantly debating, debate is healthy. However understandably core principles are not debatable.

                          I don't need to fool anyone, what will i gain from fooling you? what benefit can i get from fooling you. Get a grip.
                          There is not room for anything. Stop making up stuff, no one can even talk about negative things in Islam without being threatened
                          Last edited by Karachi; 04-14-2016, 01:06 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                            Apostasy.
                            And they get killed, thats it

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                              And they get killed, thats it
                              Do you think it is wrong to kill people because of their beliefs?
                              Originally posted by Firdousi
                              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                                It is a natural tendency of human beings to experience spirituality when facing certain aspects of nature. Prayer and recitation of Quran are no substitute for such experiences. What I gathered from your previous post sounded to me like animism. they also believe in God. Various types of animism define God in different ways.
                                True to the first part of what you said but how about I be the judge of what I find satisfying when it comes to my relationship with God rather than you?? I am not going after others and telling them to start doing what I do instead of what they are doing snd I will not allow anyone telling me how I should be worshipping the God I or we believe in. I am a single traveller whether I am going to hell or heaven.

                                "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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