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  • Originally posted by Karachi View Post
    it is incorrect to assume that every single thing in India and Indian culture is from aryans. Indian civilization is older then aryans. The influence of dravdian is integral to all of south asia
    According to you then Pashtuns would be Indic-ized (?) in a way as well?
    Yama Pukhtoon da Pukhtano sara zam.

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    • ^ like I said before pashtuns seem to be a bridging people between iranids, central asians and indics. Though I am not aware of pashtun history, perhaps in ancient times they were more indic? it is possible, but again there is no conclusive evidence of anything. I am going by what they are today, today they are not classified as indics because their language, culture, traditions are different from Indians

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      • Originally posted by Khyber Pass View Post
        The Tajiks I've met as a whole are much lighter than Pashtuns.
        I doubt you have met any tajiks by the way you are talking. And no Tajiks are no lighter then pashtuns, should i show you examples?
        "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

        -Old Pashtun proverb




        "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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        • Originally posted by M17ArnoBaloch View Post
          False. Panjabis speak the language "Panjabi". Any panjabi or sindhi living in Balochistan wouldn't speak "Balochi" because he/she isn't a baloch. Balochistan means the land of Baloch. Historically speaking the sistan-va-balochistan and todays balochistan was one big land. Baloch lived in these lands untill occupation from Pakistan. All panjabis are Indians or Indics. So you're living in Panjab right? after a decade would it be okay for me to call you a panjabi? since its just a term for a person living there? Absolutely not. You will stay pashtun you will not become panjabi because panjabi is a race not a term to be given to those who reside Panjab.

          Panjabis are Indians. There are indian panjabis and then there are paki panjabis. Both are indians.
          I know the story of the Baloch people and what the Pakistani's did to you, is both sad and pathetic, but that is history, that is how countries are made, learn to live on forward, and make towards a better country rather than hogging on and on about the past. Your language does not shape your identity, I know many Pashtuns who are born and raised in America, they do not know a word of Pashto, what does that make them? Many ethnicities of the Punjab have just settled there let that be from Ancient Persia, Europe, or heck even India itself
          Yama Pukhtoon da Pukhtano sara zam.

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          • Originally posted by Hallo View Post
            you still think false. think logically.

            the population is changing and moving.

            you can not say the current homeland of pashtun was also the homeland of pashtuns 500 years ago.
            Ofcourse i can. I am Pashtun. But what the hell makes you think you can? who do you think you are to say Afghanistan wasn't the homeland of pashtuns 5000 years ago?
            "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

            -Old Pashtun proverb




            "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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            • Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
              I doubt you have met any tajiks by the way you are talking. And no Tajiks are no lighter then pashtuns, should i show you examples?
              The ones I met are from Panjshir.
              Panjshir Tajiks
              http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-6365W-379.jpg

              Pashtuns
              http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...r_Province.jpg

              All though the ANA soliders could be of different backgrounds, the old man resembles the typical Pashtun from Kunar.
              Yama Pukhtoon da Pukhtano sara zam.

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              • Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                Ofcourse i can. I am Pashtun. But what the hell makes you think you can? who do you think you are to say Afghanistan wasn't the homeland of pashtuns 5000 years ago?
                Because Afghanistan did not exist 5000 years ago.
                Yama Pukhtoon da Pukhtano sara zam.

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                • Originally posted by Khyber Pass View Post
                  You can't say that about every single Punjabi that lives in Punjab, if you are going to generalize like that I can also say the same about Pashtuns can I not? You are making assumptions but are not using proper historical credible facts to back up your claims. The Indians in general are primarily Aryans, even India as a whole was founded by the Aryans when they came into India and settled in present day Sindh. The Aryans were classified as a bloodthirsty race, coming into the Indus in 1500 BC and basically creating a full blood bath one of these people was Bharata who created a very large Indian empire "According to ancient Indian epic legend of the Mahabharata as well as the numerous puranas and diverse Indian history, Bharat Empire included the whole territory of the Indian subcontinent, including parts of present day Pakistan, Afghanistan, China, Iran, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia,[3] Turkmenistan, North-west Tibet, Nepal and Bangladesh." As a whole we have no direct proof of mixing, we don't even have proof of Pashtuns mixing, so why bring up that topic?
                  You still think pashtuns are related to indians?











                  If these people look like us, then i am a god damm goblin.
                  "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                  -Old Pashtun proverb




                  "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                  • Originally posted by Khyber Pass View Post
                    I know the story of the Baloch people and what the Pakistani's did to you, is both sad and pathetic, but that is history, that is how countries are made, learn to live on forward, and make towards a better country rather than hogging on and on about the past. Your language does not shape your identity, I know many Pashtuns who are born and raised in America, they do not know a word of Pashto, what does that make them? Many ethnicities of the Punjab have just settled there let that be from Ancient Persia, Europe, or heck even India itself
                    So you think Palestinians should just surrender their land to isreal? if they should too learn to forget and move forward?

                    i can show you numerous examples like that.

                    All i was saying is that can i call you panjabi because you live in panjab? no panjabi is not a term its a race. you can't be panjabi if your a pashtun.
                    Last edited by M17ArnoBaloch; 07-14-2013, 06:33 PM.
                    جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                    G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                    • Originally posted by Khyber Pass View Post
                      The ones I met are from Panjshir.
                      Panjshir Tajiks
                      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-6365W-379.jpg

                      Pashtuns
                      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...r_Province.jpg

                      All though the ANA soliders could be of different backgrounds, the old man resembles the typical Pashtun from Kunar.
                      That old man could be a pashtun from kunar.

                      Anyways Real tajiks look like this.











                      There you go, majority of them look like indians now stop this.
                      Last edited by Kushan Prince; 07-14-2013, 06:42 PM.
                      "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                      -Old Pashtun proverb




                      "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                      • Originally posted by Khyber Pass View Post
                        Because Afghanistan did not exist 5000 years ago.
                        And india did? LOL dumb logic.
                        "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                        -Old Pashtun proverb




                        "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                        • Tajiks dont look like indians.

                          uzbek + pashtun = tajik

                          some uzbeki features with some pashtun admixture.
                          جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                          G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                          • Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                            You still think pashtuns are related to indians?











                            If these people look like us, then i am a god damm goblin.
                            But these people are South Indian and are the Native Indians as I and Karachi discussed earlier. But these Indians share similar roots to the Pashtuns and also share many things in common, look at their facial structures not their skin color.
                            http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...31212ab3my.jpg

                            http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2693/140wo.jpg

                            https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...x4Y5AHNZ1b7ukX

                            What is the difference between these men and Pashtun men? The looks are quite similar the structure as a whole.
                            Yama Pukhtoon da Pukhtano sara zam.

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                            • Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                              That old man could be a pashtun from kunar.

                              Anyways Real tajiks look like this.











                              There you go, majority of them look like indians now stop this.
                              All of the Tajiks that you posted look very similar to the average Pashtun except the last one.
                              Yama Pukhtoon da Pukhtano sara zam.

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                              • Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                                And india did? LOL dumb logic.
                                Infact there is no proof of it existing in 5000 BC but it did in 1500 BC.
                                Yama Pukhtoon da Pukhtano sara zam.

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