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  • #46
    To Shamlawar and to all others

    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
    Allah knows you and makes you commit these crimes against yourself.
    Dude, if Allah has such a criminal mindset and he is the power behind all these crimes, who are you then to meddle in His business? Are you a superior authority/entity than your Allah?

    To all the others:

    I read nearly all the comments. Some claim that people who have been speaking the truth about the backward Islamic culture and its criminal background and its terrorist ideology (jihad) they are inferiority cases and are seeking this and that in the West. Some also say that this and that person fabricated stories about attacks on them etc.

    I would say that nobody needs to fabricate fake stories. For someone who has just born and lived in an Islamic country and has an enlightened minset it is enough to say he/she has suffered. Is Islam not forced on everyone in all Islamic countries? Is there any Islamic country in the world where you are free to chose your religion and your way of life? Is converting to another religion not a crime punished by death in all Islamic countries? Are women not sold and beaten and enslaved in all Islamic countries? Are these all lies? Not of course.

    I think the most horrible thing are the people who know all of this and people who have seen better cultures and societies and better life, people who enjoy the Western freedom and free lifestyle and still support this backward tirbal culture called Islam and bash those who are so lucky to leave it.

    Every person has every right to leave whatever ideology he/she does not like or don't want to live in. And every person has the right to deny, condemn, expose, or speak about all ideologies and cultures, especially the backward tribal cultures, be it Islam or Pashtunwali. Nobody has the right to threaten them. All religions are made by people like us. You are in this and that religion because you are simply born in a house where that particular religion is practised. You think that religion is better than the others because you have been injected this nonsense when you were a child. Futher there is no reason of this. If you are not happy in one of them, you must leave it and seek your luck wherever you want and can. No god can stop you (because they don't exist). And so no human must do that too.

    Question: Everybody claims here things about this person Hairan but there is no link where he wrote it. Can anyone give me a link to his writings? I have lived a few years in the Netherlands in the 90s and can still read Dutch. Thanks
    Last edited by Ubaidullah; 08-10-2013, 02:17 AM.

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    • #47
      I was going to make a post about these apostates keeping their muslim names while bashing islam in order to make themselves seem more "legitimate," and then ubaidullah shows up.

      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

      Sayyid Qutb

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      • #48
        Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
        I was going to make a post about these apostates keeping their muslim names while bashing islam in order to make themselves seem more "legitimate," and then ubaidullah shows up.
        So so! I show up and your wind is gone. That of your shamlawars, khetawars and konatawars too! Nothing new for me.

        My name is not muslim, but Arabic. Arabic is a language that existed long before Islam was fabricated. Allah was the name of an idol in Mecca worshipped by traditional Arabs for centuries (Allah was the father of Allat and Uzzat). Islam on the other hand is partly a plagiarism of Christianity and Jewish religion, partly the old Arab traditions and partly the personal likes and dislikes of a desert warlord who seems to have had a difficult childhood because of his orphanage. If you study his case, you can conclude that he had learned all those Bible stories from Christians and Jews and had been suffering from his marriage with an old woman but could not leave her because she was rich. So he had developed a sheer hate against female dominancy and led him to claim to be a prophet. His hate against female dominancy he expressed in his hate against female idols (Allat and Uzzat) and himself kept worshipping the male one (Allah). He and his comrades looted the tribes around him and raped women and thus became a cult warlord (religion+nationalism+warmongerism).

        He did not invent the Arabic language, he was such a shameless falsehood that spoke with a very dirty langauge against the same religions from where he stole literature (Christianity and the Jewish religion) and labelled everything from the old Arabs as 'ignorance' but made their idol god (Allah) and other traditions into a cult religion, claimed their language as if he had invented it himself and had sex with any woman, even children, he got in his eyes.

        The practice of this cult for a few centuries has now turned our own people into mindless donkeys. They have been killing each other for it (only this Eid day 100 killed in Pakistan and Afghanistan). Everything that sounds Arabic is named muslim or Islamic (as you did with my name!). And they still fabricate stories to fancy the guy and his idol god as a type of Waziristani beauties. This is the highest degree of ignorance and stupidity the mankind has ever seen.
        Last edited by Ubaidullah; 08-10-2013, 02:17 AM.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Ubaidullah View Post
          So so! I show up and your wind is gone. That of your shamlawars, khetawars and konatawars too! Nothing new for me.

          My name is not muslim, but Arabic. Arabic is a language that existed long before Islam was fabricated. Allah was the name of an idol in Mecca worshipped by traditional Arabs for centuries (Allah was the father of Allat and Uzzat). Islam on the other hand is partly a plagiarism of Christianity and Jewish religion, partly the old Arab traditions and partly the personal likes and dislikes of a desert warlord who seems to have had a difficult childhood because of his orphanage. If you study his case, you can conclude that he had learned all those Bible stories from Christians and Jews and had been suffering from his marriage with an old woman but could not leave her because she was rich. So he had developed a sheer hate against female dominancy and led him to claim to be a prophet. His hate against female dominancy he expressed in his hate against female idols (Allat and Uzzat) and himself kept worshipping the male one (Allah). He and his comrades looted the tribes around him and raped women and thus became a cult warlord (religion+nationalism+warmongerism).

          He did not invent the Arabic language, he was such a shameless falsehood that spoke with a very dirty langauge against the same religions from where he stole literature (Christianity and the Jewish religion) and labelled everything from the old Arabs as 'ignorance' but made their idol god (Allah) and other traditions into a cult religion, claimed their language as if he had invented it himself and had sex with any woman, even children, he got in his eyes.

          The practice of this cult for a few centuries has now turned our own people into mindless donkeys. They have been killing each other for it (only this Eid day 100 killed in Pakistan and Afghanistan). Everything that sounds Arabic is named muslim or Islamic (as you did with my name!). And they still fabricate stories to fancy the guy and his idol god as a type of Waziristani beauties. This is the highest degree of ignorance and stupidity the mankind has ever seen.
          Wait, are you actually called Stephanie?



          When One Nation hopeful Stephanie Banister gave an exclusive interview to 7News on Wednesday, she did not expect it to make headlines around the world.

          But the mother-of-two has been labelled the ‘Australian Sarah Palin’ after a series of gaffes over religion and politics.

          Ms Banister – the mother accused of an anti-Muslim contamination scare at a Queensland shopping centre – will stand as a One Nation candidate at next month’s federal election.

          In an exclusive interview with 7News earlier this week, Ms Banister said Islam ‘was a country’ as well as a series of other gaffes.

          At 27, she is described as One Nation’s ‘poster girl’ for Rankin. A trained welder, she is used to the heat. But perhaps not the political heat that has followed following the 7News interview.

          Religion is at the centre of her political beliefs. She wants halal food banned, mistakes the haram for the Koran and believes the NDIS is ‘working at the moment’ – it is not due to start until 2016.

          Ms Banister, who is facing criminal charges for allegedly placing anti-Muslim stickers on products in a supermarket, claims she was misrepresented in the interview. She told Fairfax ‘they’ve completely twisted my words and made me up to be a stand-up criminal and a moron’.

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          • #50
            Kaka jan,

            Ms Stephanie seems to be a modern daughter of the ancient Arab idol allah.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Ubaidullah View Post
              Kaka jan,

              Ms Stephanie seems to be a modern daughter of the ancient Arab idol allah.
              Most people here are willing to give others the opportunity to rephrase their thoughts and opinions. Rather than imposing a ban, I thought that it was fair to give you the opportunity to acknowledge several shortcomings in your posts so far. Wise people would take the hint. That said, since you failed, you have simply reaffirmed your identity.

              Would you like me to send this account to Room 101 now?

              Rhetorical question.

              Do not answer.

              Do not attempt to raise a new account to post more garbage.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Ubaidullah View Post
                Kaka jan,

                Ms Stephanie seems to be a modern daughter of the ancient Arab idol allah.
                Wuhahaha,
                you are funny :P

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                • #53
                  why are these new trolls aloud to go unchecked with their provoking an insulting behaviour?
                  [MENTION=2]Admin Khan[/MENTION]
                  [MENTION=103]tor_khan[/MENTION]

                  please keep this place pashtun friendly.

                  this so called ubaidullah has the traits of our mental case soldat khamir.

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                  • #54
                    just a question: why do you all think that muslims become in the west an apostate?
                    maybe he/she was an apostate in their islamic homeland but just in the west he/she could express free their mind
                    ohhhhhh sorry but htat doesn't fit in your ideology ia ia ia

                    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                    Nobody can enter Islam except from free will. Neither can anybody force someone to leave Islam by force.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                      just a question: why do you all think that muslims become in the west an apostate?
                      maybe he/she was an apostate in their islamic homeland but just in the west he/she could express free their mind
                      ohhhhhh sorry but htat doesn't fit in your ideology ia ia ia
                      There are many apostates in Afghanistan. They hide their disbelief. We call them secularists and nationalists.

                      People dont just become kafirs out of nothing.
                      Originally posted by Firdousi
                      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                        There are many apostates in Afghanistan. They hide their disbelief. We call them secularists and nationalists.

                        People dont just become kafirs out of nothing.
                        so just think about your behaviour and afghanistan will have less apotates
                        so a seculatist and a nationalist doesn't have any belief?

                        btw are you 24 h on? why do you always reply immeditly? no job?
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                          so just think about your behaviour and afghanistan will have less apotates

                          Whats wrong with my behavior?

                          so a seculatist and a nationalist doesn't have any belief?
                          They do have beliefs. Their beliefs are worshipping their lowly desires and taking their own lowly desires as their deities.

                          btw are you 24 h on? why do you always reply immeditly? no job?

                          I am my own boss, I decide when to work. Plus, I usually use forums with my telephone.
                          Originally posted by Firdousi
                          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Ubaidullah View Post
                            So so! I show up and your wind is gone. That of your shamlawars, khetawars and konatawars too! Nothing new for me.

                            My name is not muslim, but Arabic. Arabic is a language that existed long before Islam was fabricated. Allah was the name of an idol in Mecca worshipped by traditional Arabs for centuries (Allah was the father of Allat and Uzzat). Islam on the other hand is partly a plagiarism of Christianity and Jewish religion, partly the old Arab traditions and partly the personal likes and dislikes of a desert warlord who seems to have had a difficult childhood because of his orphanage. If you study his case, you can conclude that he had learned all those Bible stories from Christians and Jews and had been suffering from his marriage with an old woman but could not leave her because she was rich. So he had developed a sheer hate against female dominancy and led him to claim to be a prophet. His hate against female dominancy he expressed in his hate against female idols (Allat and Uzzat) and himself kept worshipping the male one (Allah). He and his comrades looted the tribes around him and raped women and thus became a cult warlord (religion+nationalism+warmongerism).

                            He did not invent the Arabic language, he was such a shameless falsehood that spoke with a very dirty langauge against the same religions from where he stole literature (Christianity and the Jewish religion) and labelled everything from the old Arabs as 'ignorance' but made their idol god (Allah) and other traditions into a cult religion, claimed their language as if he had invented it himself and had sex with any woman, even children, he got in his eyes.

                            The practice of this cult for a few centuries has now turned our own people into mindless donkeys. They have been killing each other for it (only this Eid day 100 killed in Pakistan and Afghanistan). Everything that sounds Arabic is named muslim or Islamic (as you did with my name!). And they still fabricate stories to fancy the guy and his idol god as a type of Waziristani beauties. This is the highest degree of ignorance and stupidity the mankind has ever seen.

                            1.) Actually the name you use Ubaid Allah is unanimously a Muslim name; Non-Muslim Arabs do not use such names.

                            2.) Al-Lat is the name of the idol, Allah was known and did exist yes but there was no idol for them just an empty place, why? Because They wre the "Ineffable" being. Muhammad(saw)'s revolutionary idea is that it was ONLY Allah(swt) that existed and all the others were just false. The Pagans believed The idols like AL-LAT were CO-deities with Allah(swt). Yes the Pagans did believe Allah(swt) begot children; but this is where Islam rejected the Pagan Theology; that Allah(swt) being ineffable does not have a family or beget; he's NOT a human or an anthropomorphic being... that's what Islam was referring to as "ignorance" the anthropomorphic

                            3.) Islam claims itself to be apart of the Abrahamic narrative tradition; so OBVIOUSLY it would have stories and tales which are from the Abrahamic tradition; This is something the Qur2an ADMITS OPENLY itself. The Qur2an states that the religion of Islam is NOT NEW, that it was PRACTICED LONG BEFORE Muhammad(saw) and that Muhammad(saw) has not revealed a religion that had not been revealed before, that the Prophets of the Abrahamic religion were the Prophets of Islam as well.

                            4.) There is no claim that the language was invented by Muhammad(saw); in fact such a claim would make no sense since he was preaching in Arabic to people who spoke Arabic and thus it would be assumed Arabic already pre-existed Muhammad(saw). the Claim is that Qur2an is revealed in such an elegant style of Arabic that Muhammad(saw) could not have fabricated it. This is different than Muhammad(saw) invented Arabic.

                            5.) Muhammad(saw) used to reminisce and mourn for Khadija(ra) long after her death. He would remember her fondly and romantically even in front of his wife 'Aisha(ra). The only way someone could claim that he was suffering from his marriage is by lacking complete information on the matter. Mind you it was Khadija(ra) who approached Muhammad(saw) for marriage and NOT the other way around; so any manipulative motive would be dispelled by that. The accusation is simply an interpolation i.e. projection of certain individuals wanting to narrate such a portrayal

                            6.) The Despicable situation of the Pashtuns is the fault of the Pashtuns and Pashtuns alone. The Hyper-Misogyny that exists amongst Pashtuns stems from Pashtunwali. The culture of blood feuds stems from Pashtunwali. The preoccupation with petty issues as indicative of reputation and honor. All Pashtunwali

                            7.) Muhammad(saw) is considered by many to be the first feminist; He specifically made edicts focusing on the welfare of women. Many of his teachings would lay the foundation for future feminists; he administered rights of inheritance and property in a society where it was not customary to do so. The right of self determination in marriage, individual accountability, protection against aggression. As for female dominance, he had women who were in charge of markets and commercial transaactions and he encouraged women's public participation.

                            While Many critics may argue that Muhammad(saw)'s views do not match modern feminist outlook; He is certainly not a misogynistic

                            8.) Pashtunwali advocates

                            - Swara using women to settle blood feuds against their will

                            - Denial of women's rights of inheritance
                            - Denial of women's sexual rights in marriage
                            - the idea that a sons birth is more important than a daughter
                            -Subordination of a woman to her in laws
                            - Walwar, bride price to be given to the father

                            All the negative abuses you see are products of Pashtun culture and not Islam; it is because Pashtuns failed in administering Islamic teachings that these issues exist
                            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                              Whats wrong with my behavior?

                              you show the wrong face of islam



                              They do have beliefs. Their beliefs are worshipping their lowly desires and taking their own lowly desires as their deities.

                              so you are god or imam and can judge over your brethern and sisters



                              I am my own boss, I decide when to work. Plus, I usually use forums with my telephone.

                              nice. what kind of mobile phone and contract do you have?
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