Is anyone else sometimes ashamed of Afghans?

[KGODB]

A so called "grown folk" like yourself wouldn't be using such abusive language against others members on here. Just because you have been getting nogalstic memories back then of your pashtun father abusing and inappropriately touching you doesn't mean you have to lump all Pashtuns In the same boat. You also can't believe the stuff you hear in the media because 100% tries to make Muslims seem like the bad guys. How would you know this is a norm in Pashtun culture? Do you live there? When was the last time you visited?

P.S. All languages borrow from one another, especially Farsi which has about 35 to 40% Arabic words as opposed to Pashto which contributes 10 to 15%.

Get up and get your head out of your ass you brainwashed bitch.

So in other words, you are incapable of responding to anything that I said

FACT #1

The use of Acid against women is present in few societies on Earth, Afghan society being one of them

FACT #2

Sexual exploitation of children is a sad reality of Afghan society

FACT #3

Oppression and abuse of women is a sad reality of Afghan society

FACT #4

The streets of Kabul and Peshawar are filled with Afghan women who beg

FACT #6

Beheadings are an unfortunate reality of our society

FACT #7

The targeting of educational institutions is a reality of Afghan society for the last 3-4 decades. Granted under some circumstances it is justified as schools are a source of indoctrination but in many cases it is not

So like the stunted child that you are you pretend these things dont exist, or rather that this is simply a figment of a neo conservatives imagination

And like a mentally challenged child, you assume that just because these things exist, that means it applies to every household

Now trot away khar, and dont ever knock on this door again

[KGODB]

You have not studied the history of Pashtuns with British, there were always fights & battles as well as friendly talks, deals and negotiations...you have mistaken pakhtuns for barbaric hordes.
They always weighed and calculated their interests while dealing with foes, the marching armies passing through ghilzai and afridi country always had two options, either pay the mountain people or get harassed by them...I would quote example of syed ahmad bareilvi from history, he and his hindostani fanatics were welcomed and appreciated by pakhtuns of peshawer valley and yousafzai valley as they were helping hands against their sikh foes..togather they defeated sikhs in three consecutive battles. But syed ahmad , who was influenced from wahabism, declared himself amir ul momineen and appointed his hindostani followers as Qazis over pakhtuns. He tried to abolish pashtunwali , jirga and customs. He made demand of wives from yousafzais for his hindostani fellas, when they refused, he used pressure and termed their behaviour unislamic. Pakhtuns felt that this bareilvi guy is infact a foriegner, is trying to impose his rule and ideas on them and is dictating them. Within a day hundreds of his hindostani followers were captured and killed and bareilvi himself ran away towards balakot with tail between his legs...
Moreover their style of fighting involved stretagies and plans, guerralla warfare, they retreated whenever they were in weaker position , that can be termed cowardice if seen from another perspective..
Moreover some one can call bacha khan and his red shirts beghairats for their allergy to guns and violence...double barrel khan of muslim league killed hundreds of them yet they didnt resort violence.

Russians and Americans are not the only invaders, pakhtuns of today have forgetton that our ancestors have also resisted muslim mughals and muslim jihadist from india...America would depart from Afghanistan in 2014 and like randolph i would say "game of thrones" will begin afghanistan...i may sound selfish, but my bigger concern is lar pakhtuns, in my opinion cultural invaders like punjabis, punjabized pathans and urdu mohajirs are more dangerous than non-muslim invaders like americans who we reject straight away...the desi invader is two headed snake, making every attempt to finish pashtun identity and make them desis...through their converted desified pashtun agents , they are interfering in afghanistan and are keeping it as its backyard and fifth province.

excellent point

[Manzareh]

[khushal]

^^The afghan farmer making the US soldier doing farm work. Who is the baighyrat in that pic?

[khushal]

So in other words, you are incapable of responding to anything that I said

FACT #1

The use of Acid against women is present in few societies on Earth, Afghan society being one of them

The use of acid has increased since the US invasion, not to mention self immolation has increased more than a thousand percent.

FACT #2

Sexual exploitation of children is a sad reality of Afghan society

According to western sources, this practice was eliminated before the invasion and now under US occupation, the current Defence minister openly abuses and molests children and to mention how it has come back big time

FACT #3

Oppression and abuse of women is a sad reality of Afghan society

According to Malalai Joya, the abuse of women is worse under US occupation and the lack of security has turned thugs into kings

FACT #4

The streets of Kabul and Peshawar are filled with Afghan women who beg

war brings poverty

FACT #6

Beheadings are an unfortunate reality of our society

This was non existent before 9/11

FACT #7

The targeting of educational institutions is a reality of Afghan society for the last 3-4 decades. Granted under some circumstances it is justified as schools are a source of indoctrination but in many cases it is not

You can thank the Ruskies for that

[KGODB]

The use of acid has increased since the US invasion, not to mention self immolation has increased more than a thousand percent.

According to western sources, this practice was eliminated before the invasion and now under US occupation, the current Defence minister openly abuses and molests children and to mention how it has come back big time

According to Malalai Joya, the abuse of women is worse under US occupation and the lack of security has turned thugs into kings

war brings poverty

This was non existent before 9/11

You can thank the Ruskies for that

does anybody on this forum have reading skills? what the hell does any of what you posted have to do with anything?

[khushal]

^^Yes we have reading skills. your telling us the problems but not telling us the causes. Are the causes not important.

[DaZahroJaam.]

[randolph85]

have you ever heard of something called namoos? do you know the reasons behid these peopple sitting with the foreigners?

no i don't, not any more than you do.

what i see is the context of foreigners kicking in the afghan door and trespassing for 12 years and afghans sitting down and conducting business with these people. making them feel like they are comfy and at home, serving them tea and all that garbage. why they do this, who knows? i am not naive enough to think every afghan is some warrior who has his head on right. some of the biggest pieces of **** i know are afghans. they do it because they are profiting, stupidly naive, or think its for the greater good.

is that what u would do if i kicked open the door of your home and lived in one of your rooms? pointed a gun at u everyday and told u to shut up if u asked when i was leaving?

so yes, i know things are not black and white, but i also know that afghans shame themselves by their cordial relations with the people who want to see them dead, or alive long enough to accomplish western goals.

[khushal]

no i don't, not any more than you do.

what i see is the context of foreigners kicking in the afghan door and trespassing for 12 years and afghans sitting down and conducting business with these people. making them feel like they are comfy and at home, serving them tea and all that garbage. why they do this, who knows? i am not naive enough to think every afghan is some warrior who has his head on right. some of the biggest pieces of **** i know are afghans. they do it because they are profiting, stupidly naive, or think its for the greater good.

is that what u would do if i kicked open the door of your home and lived in one of your rooms? pointed a gun at u everyday and told u to shut up if u asked when i was leaving?

so yes, i know things are not black and white, but i also know that afghans shame themselves by their cordial relations with the people who want to see them dead, or alive long enough to accomplish western goals.

They are kicking in the door because they are looking for Pashtuns that are shooting at them. The US has turned afghanistan into a lawless land. There are two kinds of people in afghanistan, those with guns and those without guns. The ones without guns serve those with guns. the one with guns serve their own interests through violence whether its the Taliban, NATO, or other criminals. As long as there is no law, this will continue.