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  • Originally posted by Tor Gul View Post
    generally against, but torn on specific issues like rape & if carrying to term WILL kill the mother.
    According to some Islamic scholars, abortion is permissible in rape cases in the first 40 days of pregnancy as the fetus has not yet been formed properly, because the mother would hate this fetus if she were to raise it.

    Personally, I think she should have faith and give birth to the child, and then give it up for fostering/adoption because that way, it is not murder.

    The second scenario is more grey an area than any.
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    • Essentially what Hakim wrote is very true.

      I would add that, spiritually speaking, contraception of all types is wrong.
      Always was, always WILL be wrong

      It DOES come from the Shaitan side, that is crystal clear.

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      • contraceptives should be introduced in societies that suffer from poverty. The usage of it should also be encouraged. Why should the rest of society be deprived of such privileges just so some people can't have the option because they lack the decency to stop themselves from fornicating?? Why should other's pay the price for your lack of integrity??
        Contercrptives should be made available. Fornicators should be hanged till death.

        I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

        non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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        • Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
          Contercrptives should be made available. Fornicators should be hanged till death.
          Contraceptives are part of what turns procreation into fornication.

          You make no sense.
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          • I am totally against it, unless it is under some speical circumstances. I am totally against the way it does in western countries, there are some 1500-2000 abortions done here in canada every year, most of those are simply killing the baby, it is so horrible, I wonder why the so called "rights" group never speak against such violence. They are big hypocrites

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            • Abortion, condoms, contraceptives are probably some sort of sins. Sex is evil, even if your married. So do it only when ye want children.
              Last edited by کیش; 07-19-2012, 07:23 PM.

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              • Originally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
                Contraceptives are part of what turns procreation into fornication.

                You make no sense.

                Yeah you make lots of sense. Look at me, I am a Pashtun and a Muslim but I openly admit to being gay and a drug addicted alcoholic who stalks others. Not only that, I also harass other's about their beliefs and demand that they explain their muslimness to me.
                Allahuakbar, long live long haired lice infested self proclaiming Muslims who are willing to murder others by thousands in the name of Islam but lack the ability to educate their fellow Muslims on the very basics of Islam.
                O yeah, my father is a beghairat and I don't know why my mother has to cook for me or discipline me.

                If my child grows up to be 21 and manage to be as useless as you are, I would abort him myself as if he never happened.

                I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                • Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                  I am totally against it, unless it is under some speical circumstances. I am totally against the way it does in western countries, there are some 1500-2000 abortions done here in canada every year, most of those are simply killing the baby, it is so horrible, I wonder why the so called "rights" group never speak against such violence. They are big hypocrites
                  When they do speak out, they are labelled as conservative, overzealous religious fools. Such is the hypocrisy of the times we live in.

                  Homosexuals have been granted marriage in several places. Marriage which is for man and woman as is evident everywhere natural, even in the sky.
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                  • Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                    Yeah you make lots of sense. Look at me, I am a Pashtun and a Muslim but I openly admit to being gay and a drug addicted alcoholic who stalks others. Not only that, I also harass other's about their beliefs and demand that they explain their muslimness to me.
                    Allahuakbar, long live long haired lice infested self proclaiming Muslims who are willing to murder others by thousands in the name of Islam but lack the ability to educate their fellow Muslims on the very basics of Islam.
                    O yeah, my father is a beghairat and I don't know why my mother has to cook for me or discipline me.

                    If my child grows up to be 21 and manage to be as useless as you are, I would abort him myself as if he never happened.
                    Who is gay? You are a tranny.

                    Who is a drug addict? Probably you. When have I ever said I was addicted to anything other than cigarettes, which is not classed as a drug in this context, as you so desperately wish it was.

                    Alcoholic? Ramadan is tomorrow or maybe today where you live, stop lying.

                    So you are stalking me now?

                    You are probably infertile, otherwise you would have had several children to take care of, instead of stalking noble men like Hakimullah Khan and Abdul Rahman Karim.

                    Give up your dreams of me.

                    I am too good for anyone, let alone a Nangarhari like you

                    Oh yeah and don't come to the defense of my parents, you don't know them. If you think of me like this, you would think worse of them for giving me this outlook.
                    Last edited by Hakim Khan Urgonai; 07-19-2012, 07:31 PM.
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                    • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                      Abortion, condoms, contraceptives are probably some sort of sins. Sex is evil, even if your married. So do it only when ye want children.
                      Well spoken, my brother.

                      I also agree that it is only for creating children.

                      Some get married just to have sex but which is worse, a marriage for sex or adultery?
                      Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

                      Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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                      • I am pro-choice, the woman has the right to decide what she does with her body, and no one has the right to intervene.
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                        • the thing too is, that in many societies, there were some form of abortion or even the newborn was killed or left to die, if unwanted. some of the illegal or undercover ways of aborting were unhealthy and dangerous.

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                          • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                            I am pro-choice, the woman has the right to decide what she does with her body, and no one has the right to intervene.
                            Hell to the yeah.

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                            • Originally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
                              Contraceptives are part of what turns procreation into fornication.

                              You make no sense.

                              people fornicated just as much without contraception and access to abortion as they do with, it's just back when contraception and abortion facilities were unavailable, there were more runaways and women who had coat hanger abortions in alleys or in underground places.
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                              • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                                I am pro-choice, the woman has the right to decide what she does with her body, and no one has the right to intervene.
                                Isnt abortion the same as the practice of burying your newborn daughter? But this time, your burying, indiscriminately.

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