The Good Life

[Alchemist]

The good life is death. The afterlife is better than this life. Dunya is fake, forget dunya.

My 2 cents.

You sound like a true escape artist to me

[کیش]

You sound like a true escape artist to me

I wrote down an answer, but would like to get enlighten by the Alchemist first

[faye]

thank you teacher for enlightening us.so i assume the good life is to be like yourself and have a huge ego, endless vanity and no shame about either? am i right?
oh, by the way, there is no death. essence lives on and body recycles.

[Karachi]

Good life: when you have no responsibility and are free to do any thing you want

^ I know this is very rare

Good death: Good death would be when you die peacefully in sleep, you wouldn't even know you lived and died

[Afghanistan2010]

I understand you want to give a text book salafi answer here. But I don't see how what you say is universal. What is considered Shariah is interpreted differently by different sects, so in a way everyone can claim that their way of life is the good life because they are following the will of Allah.
This would be a good explanation if we were living under a khilafa where real Sharia was applied. Because according to Shariah, we should be living in a Khilafa...therefore according to your definition we are not obeying Allah...so muslims are NOT living the Good life. Do you disagree?

Wouldn't the good death be Shahada? Dying for what you believe is Moral? Can you say you are living the good life?

I am just speaking hypothetically so please don't take offence. There is no right or wrong here....things are the way they are because it is Allah's Will for it to be this way anyway...right?/rhetorical

The accusation of salafism is used by shia raafidh(rejectionists),however
I want to comment on your foolish questioning.

Shariah is that what is recorded in quran and the authentic ahadith,which the prophet (pbuh) showed us which is even recorded by the non muslims.
In which there is no room for interpretation.When something is black it is black and not white.

The moral life is that which is lived according to the rulings and teachings of islam,it may that you are non muslim and have moral life.

During the early stages there too was no khalifa,and it is in an authentically hadith recorded that the Prophet (pbuh) said : The Khalifa will remain,til Allah takes it away,and then Kingdom will come and remain until Allah takes it away,and then a time of fitnah will start,til Allah brings Khalifa.

so it is a good life that we are living but in the time of Fitnah.


Shahada you can achieve even while you are dying in your bed,many examples given by the authentic recordings (ahadiths) about the Companions of the Prophet (pbuh).

[badmash_khel]

Forget about the rest...

You tell me what your idea is of the good life.

It sounds like you are not sure which one is the good life - living a life of luxury or living like an aesthetic sufi.

No one lives a life devoid of any conflict. But in our present day and situation, in this world, in this life...how do you live the good life? Is it even possible?

you are right I am not sure what the good life is or is it even possible to live the good life or what it even means to live the good life. The question itself is kind of restrictive as definition of good is subjective.

My idea of a good life is probably, being at peace with myself.

[emkhan]

Good life: when you have no responsibility and are free to do any thing you want

^ I know this is very rare

Good death: Good death would be when you die peacefully in sleep, you wouldn't even know you lived and died

Good point "when one has no responsibility"

[Alchemist]

I wrote down an answer, but would like to get enlighten by the Alchemist first

Give me a years time brah...

i m still searchin for the light...

thank you teacher for enlightening us.so i assume the good life is to be like yourself and have a huge ego, endless vanity and no shame about either? am i right?
oh, by the way, there is no death. essence lives on and body recycles.

Faye,
it seems you convinced your self that you are an immortal.
Your ego is even more grand that mines, to think that you have defeated death when all else have failed.
You are even more vain than actresses that sell their souls to be immortalized on film and in the people's memory.
Well congratulations...

Good life: when you have no responsibility and are free to do any thing you want

^ I know this is very rare

Good death: Good death would be when you die peacefully in sleep, you wouldn't even know you lived and died

so you must feel jealous of starfishes that lay in the sand at the bottom of the sea.

Let's assume you are ree to do anything you want, without any consequence to your actions - what would you do?

The accusation of salafism is used by shia raafidh(rejectionists),however
I want to comment on your foolish questioning.

Shariah is that what is recorded in quran and the authentic ahadith,which the prophet (pbuh) showed us which is even recorded by the non muslims.
In which there is no room for interpretation.When something is black it is black and not white.

The moral life is that which is lived according to the rulings and teachings of islam,it may that you are non muslim and have moral life.

During the early stages there too was no khalifa,and it is in an authentically hadith recorded that the Prophet (pbuh) said : The Khalifa will remain,til Allah takes it away,and then Kingdom will come and remain until Allah takes it away,and then a time of fitnah will start,til Allah brings Khalifa.

so it is a good life that we are living but in the time of Fitnah.


Shahada you can achieve even while you are dying in your bed,many examples given by the authentic recordings (ahadiths) about the Companions of the Prophet (pbuh).

There was no khilafa?

Wasn't the Holy Prophet peace be upon him a Khalifa? A vicegerent of Allah on Earth?

For all your talk of Islam, you have failed to recognize the most crucial mission of the prophetic line.

So be it...

So you are saying that according to a hadith, which is apart of sharia, we are living in a time of fitna. As I understand it during these times there is an absence of morality on earth. These are the times when the people don't even know the Qur'an and only a very few would say that they had heard their parents say Allah. So this time of ignorance is upon us, then who is to say that you aren't ignorant either? So if this is the time of fitna, then how can black be black and white be white...if that were the case, then there wouldn't be fitna, now would there?

So how do you live the good life during times of fitna? Isn't it a logical contradiction?

you are right I am not sure what the good life is or is it even possible to live the good life or what it even means to live the good life. The question itself is kind of restrictive as definition of good is subjective.

My idea of a good life is probably, being at peace with myself.

Are you at peace with your self?

Good point "when one has no responsibility"

Some would say that you are lazy.

If you are a son, you have responsibilities towards your parents.
If you are a father, then towards your children.

You said earlier that a part of living the good life is keeping good relations, and the way to do that is by being a responsible citizen. So it seems that you too have two different and opposing concepts of what the good life is.

[faye]

i am clever, i know. it was too easy, man.
thanks for your recognition of my genious.

[Alchemist]

i am clever, i know. it was too easy, man.
thanks for your recognition of my genious.

Hey...for all I know your body as already decayed and rotted back into the earth.
And your essence lives in the internet... let's just hope you can keep up with the technological leaps and not just fade away.

[faye]

well i already know that your brain has rotted and your body is still at the computer, daaahhhhling

[Alchemist]

I hear weed is expensive in australia...
You sure your dealer ain't sellin you grass laced with toxic waste?

Because the more I converse with you, the less sense you start to make....

[faye]

if i wanted weed, petal, it grows wild around here. oh, was i supposed to make sense to YOU?
well i am actually pretty busy putting the final touches on the new reality i have been designing for us all. "the enlightened anarchists" so save up your dollars and you can join. special price for you alchemy, only $15,000. then you get your mandelbrot tattoo upon your forehead.

[Alchemist]

[faye]

come on alchemist, lift your game, boy. that kiddies cartoon doesn't even cut the mustard, get a grip