Pashtun Muslims doing attan before going into war with Shias of Kurrma agency

[Afghanistan2010]

i don't care about your friend's father. i want to know what kind of a human being or a muslim dances before going out to kill other people. if you are what a muslim or an afghan is supposed to be then i am ashamed of calling myself a muslim, afghan or a pashtana. you are an ignorant narrow minded stain on the name of pashtuns and if anyone points that out to you, it's because they are getting paid by isi or are simply Godless to begin with. i have no problem with anyone from any corner of the world, of any religious background bombing the **** out of your type. i don't.
not only are you worthless to a society yourself, you also don't allow others get far on their own either.

Story of Kurrma from 2003 up to 2011

I have myself sided with those who are nearer to me in certain aspects,that are the tribes of logar and paktya who live in Kurrma agency,they had no war with the turi tribe of Kurrma,until they (turis) recieved help by government elements (weapon supplies) and sided themselves with the governmen because those elements deployed in these regions of the government are mostly shia or not knowledgeable of islam (the pakistani soldiers),as the uprising began in 2004 against the apostate government of pakistan the tribes of logar province and paktya province has sided themselves with the insurgency,the turis as said before were government stooges,the government saw themselves endangered by those sunni tribes who supported the insurgency.
A war started again,the sunni tribes were supported by Afghan and Pakistani Resistance fighters from TTP and IEA.

About the Dance,it is called Attan,traditional pashtun dance,it is done when it is a holiday (Eid...) on Weddings and even when the Day of War is it maybe before or after the Battle it has just to do with the morale of the soldiers or typical pashtun way going into war,with no fear.

I may agree it is not very islamic,it is allowed by the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan to do Attan on Eid or on Wedding.

no comment on your insults... im too old for this to continue with you.

[IamDZJ]

I asked you for an Islamic view on dancing before or after going to a war not a detailed background of what caused this war. Who has ever accepted responsibility for being on the wrong side of a war? Show me where in islam it says you can dance before or after going to war.
Actually before doing that you should search up the word "typical" in the dictionary. I had never in my life heard of Pashtuns dancing after killing people so nowhere in hell is it possible that this is a typical thing for us to do.

If you can show me that then do it otherwise don't waste my or your own time.

[Afghanistan2010]

I asked you for an Islamic view on dancing before or after going to a war not a detailed background of what caused this war. Who has ever accepted responsibility for being on the wrong side of a war? Show me where in islam it says you can dance before or after going to war.

It just shows you don't read clearly my post.

I may agree it is not very islamic,it is allowed by the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan to do Attan on Eid or on Wedding.

Wikipedia :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attan

This was later modified into an Islamic dance to allow the dancers to get "closer to God." This virtual Attan practised by many Afghan poets and mystics had even reached to corners of Turkey, known in Europe as the Rumi Dance. It is usually performed with a Dhol, which is a double-headed barrel drum. The dance can be anywhere from 5 minute to 30 minutes long. There are many different regional variations of Attan, the most famous being Kabuli, Paktiyaya, Mazari, Kandahari, Sistani, Herati, Pashayi, and Nuristani. During King Yama's time, Attan was performed before going to a war because it used to give the army the confidence that they could win the battle.

[IamDZJ]

King yama who? Was he a prophet?
" i may agree it is not very islamic,it is allowed by the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan to do Attan on Eid or on Wedding" doesn't prove anything. It's either Islamic or it's not. There is no icy thing as an act being a little Islamic. It either is or it isn't.
Afghanistan was never recognized as an Islamic emirate unless you count in the joke that Taliban turned it in to. Even then, dancing and music was prohibited so I don't know what you were hypnotizing yourself by.

By Islamic view I meant a refrence from quraan not some random sentence that happens to have the word Islam mentioned in it.
I told you not to waste my time.

[Afghanistan2010]

Its not from Islam to do attan before war but i don't think it is haram.
It is something traditional,cultural.

[IamDZJ]

Its not from Islam to do attan before war but i don't think it is haram.
It is something traditional,cultural.

I THINK you are an idiot.
Have a nice day.

[Soldat_Amir]

Afghanistan2010 you just got owned. You are not even sure yoruself if its permitted or haram to dance before a war.

Afghanistan2010 I bet your going to next say that its permitted according to Islamic texts that using a Rabab is Halal because Pashtuns are only allowed to use string instruments.

Afghanistan2010, do you also know, its Haram to hold onto pictures of kaffir idol worshipping Chinese people, your a disgrace to the Ummah, off with his head.

Mullah Omar and Qari Hakeemullah would be ashamed of your Munafiq.

Plus Afghanistan2010, Attan has very much pagan roots as well, so in the eyes of a sane minded individual such as I, would it not by a bit hypocrital of you to suggest that a Pagan dance ritual be used before killing in the name of Wahabism.

Haram Haram Haram.....Afghanistan2010 we should report to Jamals virtue of vice police and give you a 100 lashes, innovator and agent of the Pirs!

[Soldat_Amir]

I think Afghanistan2010 has exposed himself as nothing but a Zionist agent who wants to use Pagan rituals such as Attan before fighting in the name of Wahabism.

Afghanistan2010 we good Wahabis are aware of your Zionist tactics of trying to divide the Ummah with such plotts.

Attan is unislamic and very Pagan, Zionists want to take over our Pashtun region and promote innovative rituals such as Attan, which is a disgrace, long haired men waved their hair around a man beating a drum, like how the kufur Sikhs doo.

Sharam Sharam Sharam!

*I am saying this sarcastically"

[Afghanistan2010]

im sorry for your parents,and i do not insult parents,i would insult you ****** , you bark to much okay you need cyber attention because no one pays anything to your **** that comes out of you okay,you fag**** you want to teach me my religion,go get some friends instead of looking into cyber attention,oneday i promise you , a pashtun will smash your face and pee on your shaven head.




to DZJ , i said "i think" because haram and halal is something then when it is said by Allah and i do not want to move my tongue beside the Qalam of Allah,and there is no other word than the word of Allah.It is therefor not Haram because it has nothing todo with Ibaadha(worship),because the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said : Every new invention is bidah and every bidah is a misleading path and every misleading path goes to hell.And starting from this point of view i do not consider it haram,it has up to the Ulema to discuss this im a layman and this issue was not discussed much,and as it has nothing to do with worship it is considerable not haram.

[Afghanistan2010]

And i will do too attan,when im a soldier i will enjoy it before going to war :D

DA PAKTIA MUJAHIDEENO ATTAN - YouTube