Pashtun Muslims doing attan before going into war with Shias of Kurrma agency

[graveyardofempires]

emkhana de dey khola murdara da leka de dey mazgho pe shaan.
da ghol pe lakhtey wayee aw mung ta wayee che gora somra khe boy kayee.
dasey khalek jahilan dey aw doey sara bas kawel de wakht zaya kawel dee

[IamDZJ]

yeah same non sense same tactic.
i dont care about your brain diaria you are spreading here regarding Afghans and Afghan culture and no Afghan culture doesnt need to change to your canadian similated life style..
it is you who is barabaric for demonisisng the Afghans and thinking you are something special because you live in canada having the basterdised version of self proclaimed pashutn culture which is actually persian culture of shahi time which they had from the had from the french and they were thinking now they are civilised.

i don't want people dancing and killing each other in my country and since afghanistan belongs to me as much as it belongs to you, i have the right to defend my people regardless of their religious beliefs, skin color or ethnicity because today that is what the definition of freedom's foundation and basic human rights (something afghans have been deprived from for a very long time, thanks to idiots like you) is based on. you stick to your little caveman dance and then throw a girly fit when someone dares to point you out for being what you are. a ****ing animal. heck, as i said, even animals show some remorse at each other's death.

GOE, tell these people. We can't sit like ducks who come to us and try to change our Emaan and Aqeedah and try to reduce our love for our sahabas and try to create hatred in our hearts for your sahaba kiraam.

your imaan and aqeeda might be dancing at someone's funeral, ours is not.

[al-arab]

Karachi you have serious issues or an identity crisis just like Soldat-Communist and other misguided people here who never are positive about Islam, us Muslims, Muslim countries, traditions and culture of those countries/people (which nearly all have common Islamic roots).

Always the negative picture and always talking about how great the west is. We get it, you live in Canada and have become Western. But don't make propaganda here to misguide people and spread your un-Islamic behavior.

Maybe you should read about history of Islam in South Asia/Central Asia. Islam spread with trade and teachings mostly. Also through wars against unbelievers who admitted their defeat and the rightenous of Islam and Almighty Allah (swt).

[IamDZJ]

khor jaaney, maa kho staso mor na da yaada karrey. Then why did you?

you feel insulted because i said your mom should have corrected you instead of just doing the dishes all her life the way you suggest i should do? you are the biggest insult of her life. if you don't want me reminding you of that then stop telling me to go do the dishes every time i make you feel worthless.

[emkhan]

you feel insulted because i said your mom should have corrected you instead of just doing the dishes all her life the way you suggest i should do? you are the biggest insult of her life. if you don't want me reminding you of that then stop telling me to go do the dishes every time i make you feel worthless.

No dear, but it increases my emaan against you like bad mouthed secularists.
and also makes me thinking about the freedom of women.
I don't know how are you tolerated at your house ? Thanks to Allah our girls are not such, they respect us and are respected. I have not heard a single bad word against anyone. I don't know why are you so rude and bad mouthed every time ? What is your problem ?

[emkhan]

emkhana de dey khola murdara da leka de dey mazgho pe shaan.
da ghol pe lakhtey wayee aw mung ta wayee che gora somra khe boy kayee.
dasey khalek jahilan dey aw doey sara bas kawel de wakht zaya kawel dee

You are right dear, I don't understand how a Pukhtana girl especially girl be like this ? It is so strange for me. Ours are so great. When I compare this and ours, I have to solute ours.

[faye]

you should be proud of a pashana, warrier woman , who stands up to you bullies and thugs, lol.

[Hania]

Dazahrojam, where are you from ?

[IamDZJ]

Dazahrojam, where are you from ?

afghanistan. why do you ask?

[tor_khan]

Karachi you have serious issues or an identity crisis just like Soldat-Communist and other misguided people here who never are positive about Islam, us Muslims, Muslim countries, traditions and culture of those countries/people (which nearly all have common Islamic roots).

Always the negative picture and always talking about how great the west is. We get it, you live in Canada and have become Western. But don't make propaganda here to misguide people and spread your un-Islamic behavior.

Maybe you should read about history of Islam in South Asia/Central Asia. Islam spread with trade and teachings mostly. Also through wars against unbelievers who admitted their defeat and the rightenous of Islam and Almighty Allah (swt).

It a nutshell, Al Arab, I wish Muslims would represent a more positive picture of themselves. We are in the year 1433 or 2012 depending on your calendar of choice. Since World War 1 Muslims have been at war, often with themselves and have often suffered the greater losses. Since we are not the power we used to be and war comes at a heavy cost, perhaps we need a change in tactic. Everyone knows that in this day and age, media increasingly wins, not nostalgia. More people are likely to take up the cause of Muslims, stick to the faith or come to it if we did a better job at promoting a less violent image of ourselves.

There are an estimated million drug addicts in Afghanistan, often victims of a cycle of poverty/successive wars and living on donor handouts. The same kind of picture is true in Pashtunkhwa and other parts of the Muslim world etc. When the picture is as bleak, expect people to question why we are in this dead-end/stalemate.

I hear a lot about Shias being wrong, but last I checked, they were not barred from going to the holy sites in Saudi, so presumably Sunni scholars still accept that they are in the fold of Islam. That's it/khallas, there's nothing more ordinary people can say about it.

In the circumstances therefore it becomes reasonable to assume that glorifying a war dance when the targets are other Muslim Pashtuns as twisted and this cannot be religious righteousness or some kind of ode to our older culture. Objecting to the possibility that we might be wrong within ourselves does not automatically make anyone soft on foreign invasions into our lands and all the conflict that has followed.

[Hania]

I was thinking you are from uk

[IamDZJ]

I was thinking you are from uk

i am from afghanistan but i live in canada.

[Karachi]

Karachi you have serious issues or an identity crisis just like Soldat-Communist and other misguided people here who never are positive about Islam, us Muslims, Muslim countries, traditions and culture of those countries/people (which nearly all have common Islamic roots).

Always the negative picture and always talking about how great the west is. We get it, you live in Canada and have become Western. But don't make propaganda here to misguide people and spread your un-Islamic behavior.

Maybe you should read about history of Islam in South Asia/Central Asia. Islam spread with trade and teachings mostly. Also through wars against unbelievers who admitted their defeat and the rightenous of Islam and Almighty Allah (swt).

you live in a dream/fantasy world that doesn't exist. you think every thing is perfect in the muslim world, which is so far from the truth that you make a fool out yourself in thinking like this

Self Criticism and Self analyzing is a good thing that may fix the problems we have, yet people like you will never take any steps in doing that, you deceive yourself and you try deceive every one around you

[randolph85]

i dont knwo what makes randolph think that pashtuns dont want to do those things he mentioned.
i think randolph thinks pashtuns have been living in peace and were just being ignorant,lazy and naturally backward.

what?

perhaps the reason i think pashtuns don't want to do the things i mentioned is because they don't or haven't.

ignorant? yes. lazy? yes. backwards? its all relative. of course not all, but reality doesn't lie. we are probably the poorest and weakest ethnic group on earth outside some african tribes and maybe the baloch.

i wouldn't bother bad mouthing my own people if i didn't care about them. khushal khattak khan did it and people sing the praises of his poetry. delusions of grandeur have done pashtuns no good.

these people are enthusiastic about going to fight their own people. there is no honor in that. now some people will bring up the shia excuse, but there is no shia tribes in nangarhar yet tribes there have been at war for some time now. there is nothing romantic about this while the kuffar of this world sit back and laugh while afghans destroy themselves slowly.

[graveyardofempires]

what?

perhaps the reason i think pashtuns don't want to do the things i mentioned is because they don't or haven't.

ignorant? yes. lazy? yes. backwards? its all relative. of course not all, but reality doesn't lie. we are probably the poorest and weakest ethnic group on earth outside some african tribes and maybe the baloch.

i wouldn't bother bad mouthing my own people if i didn't care about them. khushal khattak khan did it and people sing the praises of his poetry. delusions of grandeur have done pashtuns no good.

these people are enthusiastic about going to fight their own people. there is no honor in that. now some people will bring up the shia excuse, but there is no shia tribes in nangarhar yet tribes there have been at war for some time now. there is nothing romantic about this while the kuffar of this world sit back and laugh while afghans destroy themselves slowly.

ignoran tabout what?
they arent ignorant if they were ignorant they are just misinformed like they believing the isi theory.
Lazy ?totally not just because there isnt something to do doesnt mean one is lazy.
for example you see alot of people standing on th esidelines looking for day job but if they dont get work that day doesnt mean they are lazy.

Backward totally not,they are much more intelliegent than peopel having acces to all the information sources yet they already mad eup thei rmind an dstick to their views while others are trying to brainwash fellow pashtuns into believing illogical theories and lies.

how do you knwo why these people are going to fight?
how do you knwo the ones they are fighting are not guilty of burning their vi;lages and supporting paksitani army into attacking/invading their homes?

its funny how you guys jump to choose the wrong side and make up conspiracy theories to support them.

how did you come to the conclusion that we are the weakest and poorest?
thats just some figure made up to support the mainstream version of events.

if you are talking about the fight between the ali sherkhel and sepai tribes in jalalabad,it is simple they need someone to recocialte them but in this war time it wouldnt happen but alot of time these feuds are solved.
their fight is because americans are paying loads of dollars to one group and th eother wants it too so its about dollars and connected to invasion and the same happens in kandahar,helmand khost etc.

i think you have forotten that there is war going on and considering that Afghans are doing pretty well or are you expecting them to become professors at war time when nothing is safe?

khushla khan khattak might have criticised his people and he got respect for thast but he didnt demonise his people and neither in a time when over 42 countries have invaded them.