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  • #31
    why does it matter

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Haris View Post
      Who exactly comes up with these traits?

      I find it really hard to believe that the month that you were born in determines your personality.


      And those horoscopes are so vague that they can apply to anyone and even then, half the time they are just plain wrong. I don't know why people bother with it.

      E.g. for Sagitarius it says:
      Someone needs reassurance that you are on their side, so do what you can to oblige them in any way you can today. It might take all you’ve got, but the payoff will be worth it when it comes.

      Nonsense.


      When a horoscope coincedentally does happen to predict something for someone they start putting their trust into it and start believing in them. It's sad when people actually pay for daily horoscopes.



      It's all mumbo jumbo to me but each to their own.

      Vedic Astrology: Michael Shermer vs Jeffrey Armstrong - YouTube


      (Note: The intro by the skeptic is wrong...astrologers will tell you that: The stars impel, they don’t compel.)

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      • #33
        cancerian, gemini rising, aries moon.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
          The problem is that you are ignorant of what Astrology is.

          Take for instance the ratio of the size of the Earth to the Moon....



          The earth squares the moon with 99.999% accuracy. There is a Qadr, a due measure. The same 3:11 proportion can be found between other celestial objects.

          Amazon.com: A Little Book of Coincidence (Wooden Books) (9780802713889): John Martineau: Books


          This is not astrology, this is astronomy.

          Give me an example of astrology.


          You say that hadiths are bidah and that astrology is fine with you ?

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          • #35
            Brother Astronomy is something else , and taking these "socalled" signs as something serious is something else.

            If any of you believe in this (shirk) signs that are man made and without meaning, he is going against Islam.

            Most people think that people with certain signs , have certain behaviour and the similar which is just wrong and pure kuffar.



            btw i killed kuffarov in Battlefield 3 :lol:
            High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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            • #36
              hahaha Islamic Purity and now you engage in the shirk of najmoumiyah??????

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              • #37
                it's official Alchemist is an apostate.

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                • #38
                  How am I an apostate you ?

                  Did I caste your fortune? or anyone elses?

                  Did I practice Astrology?

                  You are a ... Unlike you I never denied any attributes of Allah. I never fabricated false interpretations of the Qur'an.

                  Ibn Arabi also spoke on astrology ..and so did Al Biruni...oh no they are apostates? Get lost ...you ignorant
                  Last edited by Alchemist; 11-11-2011, 09:27 PM. Reason: hehehee...banned for foul mouthing

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                  • #39
                    Sky Is a Dome The sky and the heavens were still just smoke after the completion of the earth with its living things and mountains (41:10-11, 2:29). The sky was built up as a dome over the earth (2:22, 21:32). It was raised on high as a canopy (79:28). It continues to be amazing that it has no visible pillars or cracks (31:10, 50:6). It was built up, decorated with bright ornaments and has no cracks or defects (50:6). It remains to be a threat as a piece of the sky could fall on an individual as a form of punishment (34:9).

                    Stars Are Lamps Above the earth were constructed seven layers of heavens which are miraculously kept from falling. The lower level is decorated with lighted lamps (41:12, 67:5).

                    Zodiac Signs The sky was decorated with the signs of the zodiac to make it beautiful (15:16, 25:61).

                    Falling Stars Chase Genies Shooting stars are made for a special purpose. They are lamps that are thrown as fiery missiles at genies (jinn) who try to fly up toward the sky in order to spy on the activities of heaven (37:6-10, 15:17-18, 67:5, 26:210-212).

                    Satan Prior to the creation of humans, Satan was created out of smokeless fire. He was punished for refusing a command to bow before Adam, the man who was sculpted and brought to life from clay. When he was banished and degraded to the earth, Satan swore to mislead people. Adam and Eve were his first victims. He was one of the genies (15:28-39, 7:11-23, 18:50).

                    Evil Spirits Genies were made from fire that has no smoke (55:15).

                    Sun and Moon Orbit Earth After the seven heavens were built over the earth, the sun was put into service (13:2-3, 78:12-13). The sun is a shining lamp (25:61, 78:13). The sun swims its rounded course and comes to a resting-place (36:40, 18:86). The sun is not allowed to catch up with the moon and the moon is not allowed to overtake the sun as they run their prescribed orbits (36:37-40, 21:32-33). Allah swears by the sun with his midday brightness and the moon, how she rises to follow him (91:1-2).

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                    • #40
                      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                      Sayyid Qutb

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by kakargirl View Post
                        Sky Is a Dome The sky and the heavens were still just smoke after the completion of the earth with its living things and mountains (41:10-11, 2:29). The sky was built up as a dome over the earth (2:22, 21:32). It was raised on high as a canopy (79:28). It continues to be amazing that it has no visible pillars or cracks (31:10, 50:6). It was built up, decorated with bright ornaments and has no cracks or defects (50:6). It remains to be a threat as a piece of the sky could fall on an individual as a form of punishment (34:9).

                        Stars Are Lamps Above the earth were constructed seven layers of heavens which are miraculously kept from falling. The lower level is decorated with lighted lamps (41:12, 67:5).

                        Zodiac Signs The sky was decorated with the signs of the zodiac to make it beautiful (15:16, 25:61).

                        Falling Stars Chase Genies Shooting stars are made for a special purpose. They are lamps that are thrown as fiery missiles at genies (jinn) who try to fly up toward the sky in order to spy on the activities of heaven (37:6-10, 15:17-18, 67:5, 26:210-212).

                        Satan Prior to the creation of humans, Satan was created out of smokeless fire. He was punished for refusing a command to bow before Adam, the man who was sculpted and brought to life from clay. When he was banished and degraded to the earth, Satan swore to mislead people. Adam and Eve were his first victims. He was one of the genies (15:28-39, 7:11-23, 18:50).

                        Evil Spirits Genies were made from fire that has no smoke (55:15).

                        Sun and Moon Orbit Earth After the seven heavens were built over the earth, the sun was put into service (13:2-3, 78:12-13). The sun is a shining lamp (25:61, 78:13). The sun swims its rounded course and comes to a resting-place (36:40, 18:86). The sun is not allowed to catch up with the moon and the moon is not allowed to overtake the sun as they run their prescribed orbits (36:37-40, 21:32-33). Allah swears by the sun with his midday brightness and the moon, how she rises to follow him (91:1-2).
                        Pardon me if i jump into this thread but
                        dear muslimah,
                        This has nothing to do if you are sign is scorpion and the similar and you say this has some meaning about why im so and so ,it has nothing to do with this thread.

                        Did the prophet (pbuh) not said in a Hadith :

                        During the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), there was a solar eclipse on the day that his son Ibrahim died. Some superstitious people said that the sun eclipsed because of the young child's death and the Prophet's sadness on that day. The Prophet corrected their understanding:

                        Narrated Al-Mughira bin Shu'ba: On the day of Ibrahim's death, the sun eclipsed and the people said that the eclipse was due to the death of Ibrahim (the son of the Prophet). Allah's Apostle said, "The sun and the moon are two signs amongst the signs of Allah. They do not eclipse because of someone's death or life. So when you see them, invoke Allah and pray till the eclipse is clear."
                        High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                          Pardon me if i jump into this thread but
                          dear muslimah,
                          This has nothing to do if you are sign is scorpion and the similar and you say this has some meaning about why im so and so ,it has nothing to do with this thread.

                          Did the prophet (pbuh) not said in a Hadith :

                          During the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), there was a solar eclipse on the day that his son Ibrahim died. Some superstitious people said that the sun eclipsed because of the young child's death and the Prophet's sadness on that day. The Prophet corrected their understanding:

                          Narrated Al-Mughira bin Shu'ba: On the day of Ibrahim's death, the sun eclipsed and the people said that the eclipse was due to the death of Ibrahim (the son of the Prophet). Allah's Apostle said, "The sun and the moon are two signs amongst the signs of Allah. They do not eclipse because of someone's death or life. So when you see them, invoke Allah and pray till the eclipse is clear."
                          Who said i believe in horoscopes ect i just put down that zodiac in the sky has been mentioned in the Quran,i don't believe that someone can tell your future or your past.


                          But what i do know before Islam yes Helmand followed Zoroastrianism for thousands of years.



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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                            it's official Alchemist is an apostate.
                            Picking and choosing which sciences you wanna belief, eh?

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                            • #44
                              Todays Astrology is wrong - the pwriod of the sign do not respect the signs in reality!

                              My star is Hayk Nahapet constellation(Orion), it is the sign with which I can find my homeland when I should get lost
                              My star is the Sun, as it gives life on earth
                              My star is the moon as it guides in dark nights
                              My stars are every star who can guide a wanderer....
                              Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                              Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                              Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                              Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                              Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                              Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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                              • #45
                                Real Astrology is a good thing, it is how to calculate important events!
                                But real astrology is a truely material science and has no thing to do with Horoscopes
                                Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                                Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                                Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                                Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                                Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                                Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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