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  • #16
    Originally posted by Laila View Post
    So are they Pashtun or Tajik?
    According to Nick, there is no such thing as a "Tajik" ethnic group. He has a pretty convincing theory.
    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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    • #17
      Comrade,
      Ta da kam zay ya?
      Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

      A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

      For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


      The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

      -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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      • #18
        They are definately not Pashtuns, may be Tajiks or something else.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
          According to Nick, there is no such thing as a "Tajik" ethnic group. He has a pretty convincing theory.
          Do explain .....his theory may be similar as my fathers

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
            Comrade,
            Ta da kam zay ya?
            Born in Kabul, familly has lived there too, and south of it. Originally paternal side Durrani aristocrats of Kandahar who came and settled in there as courtiers. Mother side from Loya Paktia. But I have relatives in Jalalabad too, quite an extensive web of family relations almost all over Afghanistan, including Jalalabad. BOOM! lol

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
              Toramana,

              What were you doing in Afghanistan if you don't mind me asking. So you went there during Taliban time, bcoz it takes you about 4 hours from Torkkham to Kabul and 3 hours from Jalalabad. The roads are nice and neat now.

              Let me know when you are there next, I will come and pick you up from the border. Aw samee manzereeh aw chakaroona ba wowahee.
              Actually, a person from Maidan Shahar whom I met in Karachi and became friend with took me to Kabul...And yes, it was when Najib government had fallen and Taleban were about to take over (before that)...

              ComradePashtun thanks a lot for the generous and brotherly offer...I will sure let you know...By the way some of my poet friends frequently visit Kabul...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Laila View Post
                Do explain .....his theory may be similar as my fathers
                There isn't such a thing as Tajik ethnic group. Tajik were originally referred to any sunni Persian speaker. It has even a derogatory usage as well, back in the days.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Laila View Post
                  What? Never knew that
                  Yes they were called Hazarbuz...I asked about the reason for the name and someone explained it is because of their affluence ---I noticed they were living in large houses...University town in Peshawar is one of the most expensive localities to live in...They were Pashto speakers....

                  Thanks Admin Khan for info.

                  Someday in future after my post-doc I will like to teach some engineering courses at Jalalabad, Kabul, and Kandahar universities (provided Taleban ya NA walla mai tot tha o na khjai...)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                    Actually, a person from Maidan Shahar whom I met in Karachi and became friend with took me to Kabul...And yes, it was when Najib government had fallen and Taleban were about to take over (before that)...

                    ComradePashtun thanks a lot for the generous and brotherly offer...I will sure let you know...By the way some of my poet friends frequently visit Kabul...
                    I see. Wallah come and visit bro. I will be so happy to meet you. By the way, I have never lived there before or durring Najib or Taliban, it is only recently over the past nearly 9 years that I have been visiting Watan, and I now know almost every corner of it. I even have an old banger cruiser, quite decent, which can take us from A to B. Don't worry if you come and visit I will change it to give you a comfort rid around the country.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                      Yes they were called Hazarbuz...I asked about the reason for the name and someone explained it is because of their affluence ---I noticed they were living in large houses...University town in Peshawar is one of the most expensive localities to live in...They were Pashto speakers....

                      Thanks Admin Khan for info.

                      Someday in future after my post-doc I will like to teach some engineering courses at Jalalabad, Kabul, and Kandahar universities (provided Taleban ya NA walla mai tot tha o na khjai...)
                      Hazarbuz are pure Pashtuns and branch of Momand.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Toramana View Post

                        Someday in future after my post-doc I will like to teach some engineering courses at Jalalabad, Kabul, and Kandahar universities (provided Taleban ya NA walla mai tot tha o na khjai...)
                        Really that is good. Kabul has an amazing Engineering Department. Nangarhar Univeristy is nice as well. Try to pull some strings and see if you can do an internship with a professor for a while.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                          I see. Wallah come and visit bro. I will be so happy to meet you. By the way, I have never lived there before or durring Najib or Taliban, it is only recently over the past nearly 9 years that I have been visiting Watan, and I now know almost every corner of it. I even have an old banger cruiser, quite decent, which can take us from A to B. Don't worry if you come and visit I will change it to give you a comfort rid around the country.
                          Daira manana wrora...It will sure be a fascinating experience and a nice company...

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                          • #28
                            I just found out that my universities are providing Nangarhar University with supplies and system utilities

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                            • #29
                              Toramana,

                              Oos kam zay ye?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                                Toramana,

                                Oos kam zay ye?
                                Oos kho Bacha bahar yama pa maghrib kai (Canada kai)...sabak wayam...

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