dedicated to shamlawar, barakzai and other *******s like them.

[DaZahroJaam.]

[BarakzaiAbdali]

You're such a horrible frenemy. I give you figurative flowers and you respond with a brass knuckle uppercut.

In all seriousness though the video proves an important point that is worth considering that seems to elude you.

1. America - stable country --> Never invaded vs Afghanistan - chronically invaded last 300 years.

2. Regional ethnic variations - Catholic/Prostestant Scotch Irish, German, French, Spanish based, Native and imported slave colonization of various parts of the US leading to a North South divide that resulted in a massive bloody civil war vs Afghanistan - North south divide with various pockets of ethnic groups and tribes that migrated around and displaced other tribes.

3. America: Original starter colony was headed up by Nathaniel Hawthorne's (House of Seven Gables and Scarlet Letter) grandfather who was a religious zealot that used to burn women at the stake and ban Christmas celebrations ---> Eventually in a few generations the Puritan zeal fizzled out on its own since no one from the outside tried to force stop it

4. Admittedly both the rural culturally religious American (America is viewed as the most religious Western nation) and many culturally religious Afghans cling to very conservative mores and views like the video shows (though there are many conservatives that are not that dumb).

Important differences:
1. America was invaded by the British in 1812 but otherwise no foreign force ever came in and screwed up their natural evolution toward an open society. Its like a family - families when left alone will focus on their own internal squabbles instead of focusing on outsiders if left alone.

This led to Americans fighting a brutal but necessary civil war that defined their federal government and states rights issues and has resulted in a system where both the religious hick white nationalists (Trump) and the left wing pro rainbow marriage group (Obama) feel represented in their government. That is, even though the hillbilly in your video lost the civil war he still has a tremendous amount of voter power as opposed to getting annihilated and banned and imprisoned like some wish to do here to people who outwardly display religious symbolism. This in turn guarantees some degree of stability.

2. Afghanistan on the other hand has vermin like you that wants to halt that internal dialogue that needs to happen so that people like you and Khostai can imprison, murder, and maim people that you view as "religious" and "culturally backwards" relative to the West because you think taking Abdullah from Kunar and dressing him up like Matt from Ontario is in his "best interest."

Unlike Americans who for the most part did not pull in outside powers to fight their internal conflicts (e.g. the North and the South US armies generally relied on their own manpower as opposed to foreign super powers) we have floater turds like you and your kind that need Harper Bibi to kill people in Afghanistan that you simply dislike.

This in turn leads to more radicalization and more extended war and greater internal instability.

Later Frenemy. I gotta go run and get the heart rate up. A little sweating is good for the soul.

[DaZahroJaam.]

O shut up. That's what you got out of that video?? That Afghanistan has been invaded consecutively in the last 300 years but not America?? All the **** from Europe, migrated to America, took over someone else's land and then declared wars or the rest of civilizations, 222 times out of the 239 years since it has been formed. That it has not been invaded, does not imply that it does not deserve to be invaded. Donald trump is what America stands for and what it's all about. You may have lived there for over 20 years but beneath its layers, your ideology is no different than his. Same level of donkey like intolerance.

I am not surprised at all that you are defending a neocolonial society for being a bully while encouraging those that provide the conditions that allow for another country to fall prey in to the hands of America. Until yesterday, or heck, even an hour ago, I thought of you as someone with whom I held a difference of opinion. Regardless of how contradictory our opinions were, it was in the interest of Afghanistan and its people but now things are different and far more clear. We don't have differences of opinion, we have differences of interest. It's clear where your loyalty rests..

[BarakzaiAbdali]

O shut up.


I tried, but you just have that effect on us.

That's what you got out of that video??

Watch it again. Do you disagree that 1) a huge portion of America and Afghanistan are rural? and 2) That these folks tend to be conservative, religious, and very attached to their cultural memes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_st...blue_state.svg

I am not applauding this or saying its a good or a bad thing. But its a reality. You can see the red/blue distribution in that map.

That Afghanistan has been invaded consecutively in the last 300 years but not America?? All the **** from Europe, migrated to America, took over someone else's land and then declared wars or the rest of civilizations, 222 times out of the 239 years since it has been formed.

I dont disagree with you, events like Wounded Knee and the Trail of Tears and my utmost respect for Metacom and Tecumseh are known here. However, we are talking about how stable nations are built.

Additionally, have you ever thought about how and why the tribes lost out in both Canada and the US?

It was because for every Tecumseh there was a DZJ type that thought "gee wouldnt it be awesome if my backward lice ridden Shawnee Indian tribe dressed up in suits and ties and took on names like Derek RunsWithWolves and Tina MountainShawnee. They basically did to the natives, by coopting subversionists and dividing and conquering, what they are now doing in Afghanistan.

That it has not been invaded, does not imply that it does not deserve to be invaded.

I cannot respond or comment on that in this new environment. We arent talking about what should or shouldnt be done to people - we are talking about why its a stable superpower. And generally the reason isn't because they wear short skirts and are Christian and secular or whatever retarded reasons Badlun offers. The reality is that internal stability, lots of resources, a relatively small population and free enterprise offered the Americans the chance to build up a country across a 400 year experience. We need not say we morally agree with them. but for our own people we should understand the how and the why.

Donald trump is what America stands for and what it's all about. You may have lived there for over 20 years but beneath its layers, your ideology is no different than his. Same level of donkey like intolerance.

Donald Trump is playing to his audience. In the past he has called Iraq and Afghanistan interventions mistakes. Currently, he spoke directly to the Jewish lobby indicating to them that he doesnt need their money. etc.

It is true that he is a jack as-s but personally I think Ted Cruz and Santorum are just as bad and a whole lot more deceptive.

My personal sympathies are with Ron Paul.

I am not surprised at all that you are defending a neocolonial society for being a bully while encouraging those that provide the conditions that allow for another country to fall prey in to the hands of America.

Really? It wasnt the "backwards lice ridden rurals" that attempted to neocolonialize Afghanistan for Russia back in the 1970s, that dubious distinction belongs to the secular liberal leftists who imposed a marxist regime that the former fought back. Now the latter is, in its prostitute like meanderings, in bed with the very super power that its enemy Pakistan was working with because they claim "we need them for now."

As I said, the only one enabling neocolonialism has been Karzai and now Ghani... after all, who signed over colonial outputs in perpetuity to them?

Until yesterday, or heck, even an hour ago, I thought of you as someone with whom I held a difference of opinion.

Im growing on you.

Regardless of how contradictory our opinions were, it was in the interest of Afghanistan and its people but now things are different and far more clear.

One day my dear, you will think back to these moments and realize I was right. Everything I say and do is out of empathy for all human beings. I have the unforunate ability to be able to see the world through Eastern and Western eyes and know that generally average human beings (Americans, Canadians, Afghans, etc) merely want to live their lives to the best standard they can while perserving their ways of life. Unfortunately, our elites have propelled people who generally have no interest or gain into a conflict that they did not ask for.

We don't have differences of opinion, we have differences of interest.

I have no interests at stake. My God's grace I have no needs financially, politically, sect wise etc that push me toward needing to advocate a vantage point that I see no evidence for. If I see evidence that the view you push has merit, I would have no qualms saying that it makes sense. Unfortunately, I know otherwise.

It's clear where your loyalty rests..

As frenemies, loyalties are always smoke and mirrors.

x

[DaZahroJaam.]

first of all, i don't consider usa as being a stable government and secondly, if the definition of a stable government comes by the means of exploiting the innocent, poor and vulnerable of another nations, we are not interested. don't impose such corrupted and deceitful forms of freedom or stability on us, that too, while under the guise and with the claim of being proper muslims.

instead of focusing on what we have at hand, half of your argument is based on a time when i was not even born and the other half, of what you assume i will come to believe in future. i wouldn't expect such a distorted level of judgment from an ill fated donkey that might have been confined to a cave all his life, let alone someone who has been brought up and educated in the west for over 20 years of his life...what did i read last night.. let me think about it.. it was michel de montanigne and he said, " i prefer the company of peasants because they have not been educated sufficiently to reason incorrectly..".

and you know what.. it's good to for one's political views not to be influenced by their financial status, however, in the comfort of your home in the west, you can sit on your ass and claim to believe in this or that. that does not necessary give your views more of an advantage or a genuine position than that of a jobless individual in afghanistan who is concerned about the present and future financial status of his children. familiarize yourself with the fact that financially motivated political movements are not entirely corrupted, people who have prostitutes in their beds are not necessarily bad leaders and that there is no such thing as a "DZJ type".

your credibility of concern over what takes place in whose bedroom lost all meaning and purpose the moment you suggested that a government be built over lies and the exploitation of the weak and vulnerable. go be pretentious elsewhere.

[Damir9000]

That video was funny as hell lol

[BarakzaiAbdali]

first of all, i don't consider usa as being a stable government

Agreed that instability has slightly (very slightly) increased with the economic woes and the lack of high quality jobs post 2001.... but that being said, the status of the dollar as the world's currency and the fact that no real challenge to the federated or state governments exist and each election cycle passes without much turmoil doesn't support your cause of it not being for the most part stable.

and secondly, if the definition of a stable government comes by the means of exploiting the innocent, poor and vulnerable of another nations,

Not just others, but even their own. Do you think that their lower class that gets shuttled into the military knows why they are abroad fighting in reality and who benefits of their getting maimed and hurt?

That being said you cannot lump all Americans into one block. Glenn Greenwald, Ron Paul, Michael Scheuer, Jeremy Scahill etc are one type of America and Bill Kristol, Paul Wolfowitz, and Douglas Feith, and W Bush are another.

we are not interested. don't impose such corrupted and deceitful forms of freedom or stability on us, that too, while under the guise and with the claim of being proper muslims.

You're being absurd. I never said impose anything on anyone including American Democracy. I said that 400 years of no one disrupting your land has benefits.

Its like a family. If you have one family that is constantly on the run, living in a sh-itty neighborhood, family members getting harassed by local thugs parents getting discriminated against etc. vs

Another family that for the most part lives in tranquility and father and mother can do what they need do and kids can live as kids etc, there may be the occasional oddity that occurs but for the most part this latter family will have the chance for progress and stability. In fact studies validate this, that familial stability and access to resources generally result in better outcomes for the kids.

America, Britain, Russia to a lesser extent, etc have had their chances to develop as nation states that may have fought wars from time to time but they are not like that abused family (Afghanistan) that has not had the chance to live up to their full potential.

I am saying Afghans can govern and live by whatever standard they like, but contrary to your approach which is imposition of government systems you like by Harper and Obama because you "like it" - they need to be left alone to have hash out their own squabbles, come to their own middle ground on the role of federal and local government, religion, etc.



instead of focusing on what we have at hand,

You are really confusing yourself with me. Is it not you that supports Karzai and Ghani and the central government that, when it gets criticism from America and Canada it does what they say instead of what it originally set out to do (i.e. it is not an autonomous decision maker to learn from its own mistakes or adhere to its own cultural motifs and values?)

So what we have at hand is an admission by you that you dont like, agree, or want for the Afghans what Americans have created in the North American continent...

And do you really think Canada is some sort of paragon of military virtue? Canada, especially under Harper, has backed every American misadventure around the world and even transferred data from spying on its own citizens to the NSA.

So then we can we have an admission from you that the Americo-Canadian history and government is not one you admire or want to emulate... yet you are also arguing for these same governments to prop up a government they created with a constitution written in their own image based on a military implementation similar to what they did before eradicating their own people.

You are one confused person DZJ. At least Badlun says: "Yep, I like their way of life and think their history is awesome and I think they should enforce their way of life on Pashtuns for Pashtuns own benefit." He sort of knows where he stands and doesn't have qualms or create weird contradictory circuitous logic to try and live in a state of cognitive dissonance - i.e. your state of claiming to hate what America stands for yet clearly arguing for the sham government they created and continue to influence.



half of your argument is based on a time when i was not even born

Thats called history my dear. We study it and its repeating patterns to avoid making the same mistakes. If we do not know what problems occurred previously how can we guard against what is to come?

and the other half, of what you assume i will come to believe in future.

Its a guess, but I think when you see the outcome of your approach in the next 10-20 years and realize that your approach to on the one hand having passionate beliefs about Americo-Canadian aggression (which you are not wrong about) yet somehow in the same moment justifying the results of Americo-Canadian aggression has resulted in merely extending the suffering of Afghans - you will like do the following:

Curse the Kharijaan and then blame them for the failures of the central government instead of putting the blame where it belongs: the opportunistic elite in Kabul and her treasonous well wishers abroad.

i wouldn't expect such a distorted level of judgment from an ill fated donkey that might have been confined to a cave all his life,

Caves can be beautiful on the inside. I once passed through Kentucky and went to Mammoth Cave. Beautiful stalactite and stalagmite natural columns and ceiling extensions that take your breath away... so I don't understand your issue with caves.

let alone someone who has been brought up and educated in the west for over 20 years of his life...what did i read last night.. let me think about it.. it was michel de montanigne and he said, " i prefer the company of peasants because they have not been educated sufficiently to reason incorrectly..".

My dear, its the educated of Yale and Harvard that set out the designs of these wars and folks like Haidar Akbar who were community college flunkies whose dad's newly appointed Khanships in Kabul got them admitted to these ivory towers. And peasants are nice people too -if you don't antagonize them or trample on their honor or way of life (something that your friends in the central government seem to not understand).

and you know what.. it's good to for one's political views not to be influenced by their financial status,

Im blushing. A compliment.

however, in the comfort of your home in the west, you can sit on your ass and claim to believe in this or that.

You have it wrong. Its not about believing anything. Its about history, facts, logic, metrics and a basic understanding the human condition. You on the other hand have been conditioned to ipso facto accept the narrative you grew up with instead of letting the aforementioned guide you to the right conclusion here which is:

BA and DZJ are both "sitting on their asses" in the West. But DZJ is the one clammoring for Harper and W and Obama to use force and fiat and bombs and torture and murder and aggression to attempt to recreate her life as she lives it in Canada in Afghanistan. But what she fails to understand and what Barakzai does understand is that A) That's now how stable, autonomous governments are made - no one can build something for you especially if their intentions are to really just benefit themselves and enrich themselves.

B) So this is a mental conundrum DZJ because she doesnt want to feel morally wrong here so she has to invent reasons to back those horrible things being done to people in her name (and by her recommendation) - so she decided to justify it by making up a narrative in which Afghans were held hostage by bearded, nonexistent nihilists (the reality is the latter were Afghans themselves who were fighting in their own civil war).


that does not necessary give your views more of an advantage or a genuine position than that of a jobless individual in afghanistan who is concerned about the present and future financial status of his children.

Nor does said individual have an advantage or better genuine position than, say, Qari Dawat or the numerous other Afghans that are concerned about their nation's past, present, and future on a larger level and prefer autonomy above all else and are willing to fight for it. And for that matter if said individual is a jobless person who is relying on Harper and Obama for a job that involves hunting, killing, maiming and destroying his own people - to the contrary, I think I stand on the higher moral ground my dear.

familiarize yourself with the fact that financially motivated political movements are not entirely corrupted,

Uh if they are using Afghan wealth to build villas in Dubai and steal money out of the central bank - they are under the definition of entirely corrupted.

people who have prostitutes in their beds are not necessarily bad leaders

Depends on what one defines as leadership. In most nation states the executive or representatives of the people offer both technical governance and are supposed to adhere to that nations culture, customs, and moral code. Yes, a lecherous drunkard can also be brilliant - but if his people want him to "lead" they expect combinations of things out of him.

When I use the word prostitute , I am referring to the fact that these Afghan liberal secularist types that you have praised in the past seem to have a promiscuous and hypocritical preference for who they get their guns and money from. In the 1980s they got them from Moscow so that they could keep building up and shoring up "progress" and they railed against America... but like the opportunistic rats - when that ship sank they suddenly determined that their ideological foe _i.e. Uncle Same was their savior.

and that there is no such thing as a "DZJ type".



your credibility of concern over what takes place in whose bedroom

Madame, you are chasing ghosts. You are taking metaphors I am using and assuming I am commenting on what happens in the bedroom. I explained above what I meant by prostitute ... I mean that karzai is an ideological prostitute - as far as I know he hasn't utilized the red light district of Kabul but a syphilitic mind might explain a lot of his retarded moves.

lost all meaning and purpose the moment you suggested that a government be built over lies and the exploitation of the weak and vulnerable.

You are just arguing now to argue. My point was that whatever Afghans build has to be Afghan built and not imposed AND that whatever it is that they use to govern themselves is unlikely to happen during war after war after war after war and while multiple nations with their own interests are roosting on Afghan land and shooting 14 year old Afghan boys for sport. The proof of this is that the longest tenure of Afghan development was after Nadir Shah took over up to the Soviet invasion ...when Afghans finally had a little chance to breath and develop their own balance of a central government and local tribal/cultural laws that seemed to permit a slow but meaningful exchange between urban and rural centers. For a period of time, despite some of the retarded moves of Zahir Shah, an Afghanistan was emerging that was developing its own law codes, systems, etc.

go be pretentious elsewhere.

Why? I would miss you and you me, frenemy.

x

[DaZahroJaam.]

Uh if they are using Afghan wealth to build villas in Dubai and steal money out of the central bank - they are under the definition of entirely corrupted.

You mean like mullah mansour, the pig?? What you refer to as "history" is what I call a diversion. Your gibberish along with Badlun's, belong in the same trashbin and far away from mine. I am pleased to hear that you are finding his opinions worth comparing yours with.






When America invades Vietnam, thats alright because that is how a nation gains stability. But when America takes a break from bombing the **** out of Afghanistan to build a road or a school in Afghanistan, your moral disagreement wakes up and bites you in the ass to the point where not only do you find it necessary to abandon everything else, (including the fact that your actions have brought the nation to the point of begging from the rest of the world in order to survive) to the point where you are not only compelled to destroy that school but also to hang the "traitor" who dared to earn two times worth of a meal for his family in exchange of labour..

Cherry on top is the part where you call that Islam and then, expect us all to be good Muslims.



Red is such an unsightly colour. Or maybe I feel sick because you are constantly inserting the word "dear" in there like an idiot.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

You mean like mullah mansour, the pig??

Sure, if he's doing that kind of stuff and using money provided to him by the Afghan people for safe keeping - call him bacon!

What you refer to as "history" is what I call a diversion.

Really? So the last 300 years of incursions, defensive posturing, excursions/offensive posturing by some nations toward others never happened or is a diversion? Maybe you should sign up for DeVry or Kaplan Online because I think a liberal arts education serves no purpose in your case.

Your gibberish along with Badlun's, belong in the same trashbin and far away from mine. I am pleased to hear that you are finding his opinions worth comparing yours with.

I simply said he doesn't, unlike you, need to live in a state of cognitive dissonance. He simply recognizes what he prefers and backs it in totality. You on the other hand prefer to censor facts that are uncomfortable (e.g. ANA soldiers and other folks doing horribly sick minded stuff to civilians that are reminiscent of what bought Taliban into power in the 1990s) and, as you said above, refer to historical facts as "diversions."

That's the utmost state of practical sub conscience hypocrisy referred to as cognitive dissonance. Its like knowing that one's dad is a mafioso, murders people to make his living - but saying its all ok because he's "dad" and just sweeping his bad deeds under the rug.




When America invades Vietnam, thats alright because that is how a nation gains stability.

You are really behind the 8-ball here. I have been for the longest time referring to Martin Luther King's quote regarding Vietnam, chastising America for being the "greatest purveyor of violence" in the world when he went up against the war.

And rather its you that should call yourself a Vietnam supporter since the Vietcong (who were fighting to free their nation) were accused by your types in South Vietnam of being "terrorists" of "harming civilians" etc etc all the while the South Vietnamese used your parsibaan style defense of inviting in America (and France before her) to "stabilize and advance the nation."

Your ignorance of Vietnam is glaring here because you would never have even broached the topic realizing how you would be in the pro Vietnam war camp based on your current support patterns.

Dhiem, after all, was the Vietnamese Karzai and was propped up as a stooge by them.

But when America takes a break from bombing the **** out of Afghanistan to build a road or a school in Afghanistan, your moral disagreement wakes up and bites you in the ass to the point where not only do you find it necessary to abandon everything else,

Uh, perhaps because your losers in office over there have been proven time and time again to either make money purely for themselves at the EXPENSE of the Afghan people off these endeavors, or because exorbitant fees are put at the doorstep of people who have no stake or support for the war and to the Afghan government itself:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/03/AR2011010302175.html

Title of the article?

U.S.-funded infrastructure deteriorates once under Afghan control, report says

Roads, canals and schools built in Afghanistan as part of a special U.S. military program are crumbling under Afghan stewardship, despite steps imposed over the past year to ensure that reconstruction money is not being wasted, according to government reports and interviews with military and civilian personnel.

So basically, in order for you to feel good about supporting aggressive and hard handed occupation you tout some guy named Abdullah getting a temp job pouring cement into a dirt pit and calling it a road where the overwhelming majority of examples indicate poor subsequent care by your retard Kabuli dogwashers or their acolytes.

So that's almost humorous, DZJ touting "jobs" as a reason to support occupation, and brutalization because losing autonomy and being debased and having your nation pretty much raped and handed over to Dostum and Co results in "Give Abdullah a Job campaign."




(including the fact that your actions have brought the nation to the point of begging from the rest of the world in order to survive) to the point where you are not only compelled to destroy that school but also to hang the "traitor" who dared to earn two times worth of a meal for his family in exchange of labour..

Destroy what school? The ones that you are unable to keep because your dogwashers are the most mentally handicapped leadership ever to occupy Kabul in all the years of Afghan rule and history?

Your bald headed zoot suit wearing, philandering, HPV infested pervs in Kabul cannot even keep a basic road intact DZJ, a basic road:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/after-billions-in-us-investment-afghan-roads-are-falling-apart/2014/01/30/9bd07764-7986-11e3-b1c5-739e63e9c9a7_story.html

Western officials say the Afghan government is unable to maintain even a fraction of the roads and highways constructed since 2001, when the country had less than 50 miles of paved roads. The deterioration has hurt commerce and slowed military operations. In many places, the roads once deemed the hallmark of America’s development effort have turned into death traps, full of cars careening into massive bomb-blast craters or sliding off crumbling pavement

A few jamba Juices are built in Kabul to create DZJ sim world and suddenly thats development and progress in your mental midget world? No I take that back... mental midget is not an appopriate term because you actually have the capacity to function at a higher level... its far worse - you're a combination of self deceived and deluded.



Cherry on top is the part where you call that Islam and then, expect us all to be good Muslims.

Citation please? All my references are to simple cause effect paradigms. Islamic jurisprudence has its own opinions on these matters but I need not even go there to make a simple case of why the Kabul government is full of traitorous lecherous idiots.

Red is such an unsightly colour.

Red roses exist in nature for a reason - blue roses (like the famous blue rose of Baghdad) are actually nonexistent and a fabrication!

Or maybe I feel sick because you are constantly inserting the word "dear" in there like an idiot.

What can I say? You've grown on me even if you are completely wrong about pretty much 90% of the views you hold.

x

[DaZahroJaam.]

You mean like mullah mansour, the pig??

Sure, if he's doing that kind of stuff and using money provided to him by the Afghan people for safe keeping - call him bacon!
provided to him?? how about money he earns by sloughtering the afghans?? can we still condemn him for that or does it only count when he builds villas in dubai with the money provided to him by afghans??

What you refer to as "history" is what I call a diversion.

Really? So the last 300 years of incursions, defensive posturing, excursions/offensive posturing by some nations toward others never happened or is a diversion? Maybe you should sign up for DeVry or Kaplan Online because I think a liberal arts education serves no purpose in your case.
i was talking about your gibberish. perhaps a person who can't make a distinction between being addressed and a reference made to history, should keep his mouth shut and stop suggesting academic goals to others.

Your gibberish along with Badlun's, belong in the same trashbin and far away from mine. I am pleased to hear that you are finding his opinions worth comparing yours with.

I simply said he doesn't, unlike you, need to live in a state of cognitive dissonance. He simply recognizes what he prefers and backs it in totality. You on the other hand prefer to censor facts that are uncomfortable (e.g. ANA soldiers and other folks doing horribly sick minded stuff to civilians that are reminiscent of what bought Taliban into power in the 1990s) and, as you said above, refer to historical facts as "diversions."

so what if he is singing his gibberish from the other end of the spectrum, he is just as self deluded as you are. he has no need for patting your back or maybe he simply doesn't trust you enough and isn't wasting his efforts but it's very natural and predictable of you to pat his, when it comes to a disagreement with me. it's serves your purpose. if you can [all of a sudden] denounce your loyalty to the pig, you are capable of doing anything in order to save your ass from landing on the curb.
That's the utmost state of practical sub conscience hypocrisy referred to as cognitive dissonance. Its like knowing that one's dad is a mafioso, murders people to make his living - but saying its all ok because he's "dad" and just sweeping his bad deeds under the rug.

speaking of fathers, i hear mullah mansour is dead..?? my condolences. may your father's soul rest in hell with maggots feasting on it.

on a totally unrelated note, my dedication to my father is not based on the fact that he is my father but because he belongs to a caliber of men that you don't come across many off in a course of a lifetime. i am not saying he is not capable of killing anyone but if he doesn, i can bet my arms and legs on stake that it would be for very very appropriate reasons. and i love my arms and legs alot. but hey, you are a doctor, right?? in america. i doubt, you ever having climbed an afghan mountain, let alone, put yourself in the same position as your fathe-- i mean, mullah mansour.



When America invades Vietnam, thats alright because that is how a nation gains stability.

You are really behind the 8-ball here. I have been for the longest time referring to Martin Luther King's quote regarding Vietnam, chastising America for being the "greatest purveyor of violence" in the world when he went up against the war.

And rather its you that should call yourself a Vietnam supporter since the Vietcong (who were fighting to free their nation) were accused by your types in South Vietnam of being "terrorists" of "harming civilians" etc etc all the while the South Vietnamese used your parsibaan style defense of inviting in America (and France before her) to "stabilize and advance the nation."

hello uncle.. don't jump in to directions that don't need to be jumped in to. america's method of invading Vietnam may have been wrong but it does not mean that veitnam was going in the right direction or that there was no need for interference in that situation. similarly, america invading afghanistan or whatever you want to call it, may have been wrong because it was america doing it but don't you for a single moment suggest that it was unnecessary. america has been dishonest about it's intention behind these interference because it's a corrupted society ( a characteristic that you find admirable in it because according to you, that is the epitome and definition of a strong nation). NO ONE IN HERE IS SUGGESTING THAT AMERICA IS HONEST ABOUT IT'S INTENTIONS BEHIND 'INVADING' AFGHANISTAN. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S YOU WHO IN ONE INSTANCE IS DROOLING OVER THEIR TACTICS FOR BEING SO EFFECTIVE IN DESTROYING OTHER NATIONS IN THE NAME OF FREEDOM PROVIDERS AND ARE WHINING THE NEXT MINUTE BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT, YOU CLEARLY CAN'T BE ROWING WITH YOUR FEET IN TWO DIFFERENT BOATS AT THE SAME TIME. CONFLICTED MUCH??



Your ignorance of Vietnam is glaring here because you would never have even broached the topic realizing how you would be in the pro Vietnam war camp based on your current support patterns.

SHUT UP, YOU HYPOCRITE. YOU HAVE ME CONFUSED WITH YOURSELF.

Dhiem, after all, was the Vietnamese Karzai and was propped up as a stooge by them.

But when America takes a break from bombing the **** out of Afghanistan to build a road or a school in Afghanistan, your moral disagreement wakes up and bites you in the ass to the point where not only do you find it necessary to abandon everything else,

Uh, perhaps because your losers in office over there have been proven time and time again to either make money purely for themselves at the EXPENSE of the Afghan people off these endeavors, or because exorbitant fees are put at the doorstep of people who have no stake or support for the war and to the Afghan government itself:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010302175.html

Title of the article?

U.S.-funded infrastructure deteriorates once under Afghan control, report says

Quote:
Roads, canals and schools built in Afghanistan as part of a special U.S. military program are crumbling under Afghan stewardship, despite steps imposed over the past year to ensure that reconstruction money is not being wasted, according to government reports and interviews with military and civilian personnel.
So basically, in order for you to feel good about supporting aggressive and hard handed occupation you tout some guy named Abdullah getting a temp job pouring cement into a dirt pit and calling it a road where the overwhelming majority of examples indicate poor subsequent care by your retard Kabuli dogwashers or their acolytes.

So that's almost humorous, DZJ touting "jobs" as a reason to support occupation, and brutalization because losing autonomy and being debased and having your nation pretty much raped and handed over to Dostum and Co results in "Give Abdullah a Job campaign."

i am not wasting my time by reading your article. i have no interest in it and i am not going to volunteer put myself in the position to be brainwashed by you but i think it has to do with somone being bribed. tell me something. HOW OFTEN DOES A TALIB PERFORM JAHAD ON SUCH INDIVIDUALS?? HOW OFTEN DO THEY SUCCEED IN SERVING JUSTICE TO THESE MEN?? WHY DO THEY ALWAYS GO AFTER PEOPLE WHO CAN BARELY SERVE THEIR CHILDREN A DAILY MEAL TO MAKE THEIR POINT?? you save individuals like these for the sole purpose of using them as examples to justify your actions but when it comes time for butchering, it's the helpless who pay.





(including the fact that your actions have brought the nation to the point of begging from the rest of the world in order to survive) to the point where you are not only compelled to destroy that school but also to hang the "traitor" who dared to earn two times worth of a meal for his family in exchange of labour..

Destroy what school? The ones that you are unable to keep because your dogwashers are the most mentally handicapped leadership ever to occupy Kabul in all the years of Afghan rule and history?

Your bald headed zoot suit wearing, philandering, HPV infested pervs in Kabul cannot even keep a basic road intact DZJ, a basic road:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...9a7_story.html



Quote:
Western officials say the Afghan government is unable to maintain even a fraction of the roads and highways constructed since 2001, when the country had less than 50 miles of paved roads. The deterioration has hurt commerce and slowed military operations. In many places, the roads once deemed the hallmark of America’s development effort have turned into death traps, full of cars careening into massive bomb-blast craters or sliding off crumbling pavement
A few jamba Juices are built in Kabul to create DZJ sim world and suddenly thats development and progress in your mental midget world? No I take that back... mental midget is not an appopriate term because you actually have the capacity to function at a higher level... its far worse - you're a combination of self deceived and deluded.

kudos to them for trying while you sit on your ass in USA and taunt them for trying. you see, while you were being feed haram and being educated in usa, they were forced to grow beards like apes and rock back and fort in madrasas for the sole purpose of keeping their minds occupied so they don't cause disturbance to your father's thugs looting them and raping the country. an ounce of effort from their side is worth more than your entire collection of whatever **** you have earned in the name of credentials in the comforts of the west.

Cherry on top is the part where you call that Islam and then, expect us all to be good Muslims.

Citation please? All my references are to simple cause effect paradigms. Islamic jurisprudence has its own opinions on these matters but I need not even go there to make a simple case of why the Kabul government is full of traitorous lecherous idiots.

go **** yourself.

Red is such an unsightly colour.

Red roses exist in nature for a reason - blue roses (like the famous blue rose of Baghdad) are actually nonexistent and a fabrication!
you know what else is nauseating?? the tedious admiration of overrated **** like flowers in life. blue is the color of the sky after the sunset and before the sunrise. but i wouldn't expect you to know that. you are more likely to find yourself being fascinated by the trickling of lice from mullah mansour's beard. and maybe the stink of his naswar.

Or maybe I feel sick because you are constantly inserting the word "dear" in there like an idiot.

What can I say? You've grown on me even if you are completely wrong about pretty much 90% of the views you hold.

go **** yourself, barakzai.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

provided to him?? how about money he earns by sloughtering the afghans?? can we still condemn him for that or does it only count when he builds villas in dubai with the money provided to him by afghans??

What you refer to as "history" is what I call a diversion.

Slaughtering Afghans? You mean like the ANA and the Khost Protection Force is doing in Khost as we write? Between shooting 14 year olds in the back and raping girls in the fields, I think at best Monsour is a Bachelorate level whereas your paid by the West thugs have PhDs in that sort of thing my dear.

Regarding "history" you mean that you cannot rebut or deal with solidly investigated high impact factor sources? Sure, call it a diversion or call it your inability to cope with reality - whatever helps you sleep at night.

I was talking about your gibberish. perhaps a person who can't make a distinction between being addressed and a reference made to history, should keep his mouth shut and stop suggesting academic goals to others.

Uh, pretty much what we have is you, referencing Khamaa using sources that are rebutted by other dogwasher sources in the NY Times and even your beloved Toronto Star loooool. So its sort of like saying, I DZJ as a slow tard cite slow tard sources and when reality is made evidence, I will ignore it.

As per above regarding whatever helps you sleep at night, I am all for it.


Your gibberish along with Badlun's, belong in the same trashbin and far away from mine. I am pleased to hear that you are finding his opinions worth comparing yours with

Actually the comparison was with yours. Badlun has been clear that he disagrees with 99.5% of what I state but acknowledges the evidence in the sources. You on the other hand state two hypotheses but pilfer some of the poorest quality references to buttress your worldview (eg. the random "cousin" in Kunduz, the facebook pages of other parsibaanaan, khamaa, etc)

speaking of fathers, i hear mullah mansour is dead..?? my condolences. may your father's soul rest in hell with maggots feasting on it.

Mansour is Mansour and I am me lol. If God decides Ahmad Wali Karzai (a known thug and drug dealer who got taken out by one of his own men) and his cousin Hashmat Karzai (the gay boy with the lion in his backyard who got turban decimated) and Monsour are going to be bunk buddies, then so be it.

on a totally unrelated note, my dedication to my father is not based on the fact that he is my father but because he belongs to a caliber of men that you don't come across many off in a course of a lifetime.

Who is absolutely wrong about everything he taught you if his beliefs mirror yours in any way. Doesnt mean he was a bad man or a bad human being, or that he himself ever hurt anyone it just meant he was dangerously ignorant for the well being of Afghans in Afghanistan and, like most ideologues, preferred some sort of ideological surrealism be hoisted on his people no matter what the blood and what the costs.

i am not saying he is not capable of killing anyone but if he doesn, i can bet my arms and legs on stake that it would be for very very appropriate reasons.

Thats the same reasoning the Gottis give for their dad disappearing people in NYC. You sure you aren't half Italian?

and i love my arms and legs alot.

You can get insurance on those.

but hey, you are a doctor, right?? in america.

Yep.

i doubt, you ever having climbed an afghan mountain,

Incorrect. Mountains are a hobby of mine, South America, America, and back home in the watan. I recommend altitude training - it makes it easier.

let alone, put yourself in the same position as your fathe-- i mean, mullah mansour.

See thats the rub here. Its the classic commie/failed marxist liberal secularist subversionist attempt to silence critics or stifle criticism. The canard "you are comfy in the West" is nonsensical. What of Mullah Omar? What of Qari Dawat? What of Mossoud? or of the hosts of young men who aren't in the West who view the ANA as an occupier extension and the Kabul government as an occupation government and who never left but chose to fight.

Oh I forgot, they are "lice ridden." lol. So basically if you live abroad, in DZJ world - you cant comment and if you live there and want to remove occupation - you deserve a bullet.

This is despite the fact that you arent the girl getting raped in the field by the ANA commander (thank God), and you arent the girl getting beat into lower extremity paralysis by the government funded militia - but you sure are comfy and toasty in Canada asking Harper Bibi to launch missiles and occupy Helmand - so that some Canucks can abuse Afghan elders and committ atrocities.

So rather, the greater hypocrite is you. Once you go liver under the Karzai and Ghani regimes in Helmand in the villages (i.e. 80% of Afghanistan) out of the safe environs of the Green Zone and Jamba Juiceistan Kabul you can talk. Until then, your mouth is just flatulating canards.


hello uncle.. don't jump in to directions that don't need to be jumped in to. america's method of invading Vietnam may have been wrong but it does not mean that veitnam was going in the right direction

Uh Vietnam is an autonomous nation that is now able to establish trade on her own terms. It was Dr. Paul who noted that Vietnam vets are now able to visit Vietnam and bury the hatchet with the very soldiers they sought to murder and kill and that Vietnam is now able to try and balance her trade partners.

You know why? Because Vietnam A) Launched their DZJs to the moon and made sure that faction was removed from the dialogue and B) removed all foreign interference.

or that there was no need for interference in that situation.

Uh looool, you just contradicted yourself 3 posts ago hypocrite.

similarly, america invading afghanistan or whatever you want to call it, may have been wrong because it was america doing it but don't you for a single moment suggest that it was unnecessary.

It was absolutely unnecessary for both American non elites and Afghan nonelites. For folks who where previously lice ridden (aka you) and got ahold of a bottle of some lice shampoo now living abroad - its a luxury to be able to get Harper Bibi to drop munitions on a bunch of brown people somewhere else but these days but for the Afghan people its been a devastating ride to the bottom and the unfortunate Afghans who have had to flee to Lesbos and Europe can attest to that.

america has been dishonest about it's intention behind these interference because it's a corrupted society ( a characteristic that you find admirable in it because according to you, that is the epitome and definition of a strong nation).

All nations and empires generate motivations to justify their invasions. Thats reality. Its very rare in history that an empire tells its young men and women in the theater of war "hey you are dying there so that Lindsey Graham and Rohrbacher can make lucrative deals with lobbies post their congressional jobs."

NO ONE IN HERE IS SUGGESTING THAT AMERICA IS HONEST ABOUT IT'S INTENTIONS BEHIND 'INVADING' AFGHANISTAN. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S YOU WHO IN ONE INSTANCE IS DROOLING OVER THEIR TACTICS FOR BEING SO EFFECTIVE IN DESTROYING OTHER NATIONS IN THE NAME OF FREEDOM

Uh thats reality. Im not praising the US but there is no doubt that their introduction of the drone into warfare for instance, has changed the way wars are fought. Just as Alexander introduced the phalanx and then thousands of years later Napolean used a variant of it - the technology introduced into war by the Americans is unparalleled. A realist has to admit this. It doesnt mean that its enough to win wars (they have actually lost two wars and are on their way to losing a third).

One can admire Steve Job's creations and innovations without personally like Steve Jobs (who seemed like an abusive *******).

PROVIDERS AND ARE WHINING THE NEXT MINUTE BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT, YOU CLEARLY CAN'T BE ROWING WITH YOUR FEET IN TWO DIFFERENT BOATS AT THE SAME TIME. CONFLICTED MUCH??

Not at all lol, its you that used the Vietnam example - then got served and then stated invading was the right thing or may have been deserved above and now are having some schizophrenic melt down. I am very happy thank you.

SHUT UP, YOU HYPOCRITE. YOU HAVE ME CONFUSED WITH YOURSELF.

You're very cute when you write in all caps. I would compare it to a rose bud bearing its leaves but I think in your case its more like watching a Venus fly trap open up and reveal its teeth.

i am not wasting my time by reading your article.

Translates to: I, DZJ, concede your factual data supercedes my fairy tale obsessionalism. Data and history are trivial in my DZJ world where only DZJ endorsed non facts matter. loooool.

i have no interest in it and i am not going to volunteer put myself in the position to be brainwashed by you

Red pill vs blue pill my dear. The choice is yours. As I said, I have no stake in convincing you of anything. I just enjoy the back and forth.

but i think it has to do with somone being bribed.

You want money? Thats what all this is about? I should have known, Karzai Bibi is a hero of yours so what else would I have expected (Joking)

tell me something. HOW OFTEN DOES A TALIB PERFORM JAHAD ON SUCH INDIVIDUALS??

How often did the Vietcong or any insurgent force have 100% accuracy? When the dogs of war are unleashed and you have a super power or pretty much any nation thats ever fought wars being unable to reduce civilian counts to 0, to expect either the West or the Talibs to do so is unrealistic. All we can do is decide who is in the moral right and who has the moral imperitive. Sun Tzu in his Art of War alludes to the fact that home grown insurgencies have a moral imperitive that invading armies rarely have. In that same vein, expecting a group of men using Korean era weapons to respond with magic bullets and low resolution weaponry that even the most powerful nations to exist havent invented is absurd.

Instead the moral problems are you, and those that open the doors of war and inflict massive assymmetry on a nation to further your own perverted goals of "redesigning" Afghanistan in your own bizarro image.

HOW OFTEN DO THEY SUCCEED IN SERVING JUSTICE TO THESE MEN??

I dunno, ask Hashmat and Ahmad Wali Karzai... Sorry, too soon?

WHY DO THEY ALWAYS GO AFTER PEOPLE WHO CAN BARELY SERVE THEIR CHILDREN A DAILY MEAL TO MAKE THEIR POINT??

I dunno, did they learn that from the KPF (aka the group that Karzai loved?) or from Abdurrazaaq in Kandahar (appointed by your baldheaded zoot suit HPV invested Kabuli governmentals) who has personally shot 13 year old boys and buried them in pits? Or maybe they got their designs from those ANA guys that raped and pillaged recently.

you save individuals like these for the sole purpose of using them as examples to justify your actions but when it comes time for butchering, it's the helpless who pay.

Yet you are the cheer leader of the invasion and occupation. I can hear it now, "Give me an N, give me an A, gimme a T and an O, what does that spell? NAAATOO, Goooo NATO" - DZJ with pom poms.

kudos to them for trying

Uh, the point is they arent trying. They are just enriching themselves because they have donkeys like you believing that they are trying. They never meant to try and have no intentiont to do so.

while you sit on your ass in USA and taunt them for trying.

Uh, their dismal performance despite having literally the whole world help them militarily and economically is what deserves taunting.

you see, while you were being feed haram and being educated in usa,

Are you passing fatwas now my dear?

they were forced to grow beards like apes

You really like a clean shaven lad dont you? I would have you realize that John Lennon's beard period was his most artistic.

and rock back and fort in madrasas for the sole purpose of keeping their minds occupied

The practice of rocking back and forth while reading the holy text is not something found in classical Islamic literature... its something indigenous to the region.... so in essence you are mocking the way that Afghans have read the Quran for hundreds of years as a cultural motif. I don't mind that, but its your world.

so they don't cause disturbance to your father's thugs looting them and raping the country.

Uh correction, we have tons of documentation, open source and what not that show your parsibaanaan in the ANA are the professors of looting and rape. And lest we forget what we called Dostum in Kandahar and his forces was "gilaam jaam" or the carpet baggers i.e. looters and thugs... yet Mr. Dostum is your hero these days.

an ounce of effort from their side is worth more than your entire collection of whatever **** you have earned in the name of credentials in the comforts of the west.

Says the person who is all too happy to watch A) misuse and alter the facts about Farkhonda and Rokhsana's deaths for her political ends and B) who excused rapists and murderers in the ANA as "Mullah Omars fault."

go **** yourself.

Why? Thats mean.

you know what else is nauseating?? the tedious admiration of overrated **** like flowers in life.

Every flower is beautiful in its own way even evil Venus fly traps. The Venus fly traps dont have to envy the red roses - there is a worker bee out there for every flower if they are patient.

blue is the color of the sky after the sunset and before the sunrise. but i wouldn't expect you to know that. you are more likely to find yourself being fascinated by the trickling of lice from mullah mansour's beard. and maybe the stink of his naswar.

Incorrect, physicists would disagree. Sunsets and the associated sky often appear red because of light scattering

This results in the scattering of greater and greater amounts of yellow light. During sunset hours, the light passing through our atmosphere to our eyes tends to be most concentrated with red and orange frequencies of light. For this reason, the sunsets have a reddish-orange hue. The effect of a red sunset becomes more pronounced if the atmosphere contains more and more particles.

http://www.physicsclassroom.com/clas...nd-Red-Sunsets

go **** yourself, barakzai.

Thank you DZJ.

[DaZahroJaam.]

I will criticize your choice for living in the west while mocking afghans who are desperately trying to make sense of their lives or fixing their country for as long as I remember the horrible incident of eating an egg salad sandwich prepared with Greek yogurt because the mayonnaise was tossed out of the fridge and in to the trash bin a week prior to that. And I can assure you, that would be a very very long time from now.

These young men need to realize that these individuals are just tools of a bigger plan and agenda. That wiping them or other innocent people by roadsides is not necessarily going to solve the problem. But you will not be the one suggesting or pointing that to them because that will mean revealing to them the fact that there are people who gladly cheer for these young men to go ahead and give up their lives for the sake of the ultimate freedom but omit the part where YOUR TAX MONEY PAYS FOR THE BULLETS THAT PIERCES THROUGH THEIR CHESTS and that you consider Americans capable for having the courage to build their own empire at the cost of the blood of these young men. You will not reveal that hypocrisy to them.
It's very interesting that you should remember the case of that one girl which was raped by an ANA officer but the 100s of others that are subjected to abuse or stoned to death otherwise are almost invisible to you. If you gave a rat's ass about we honour and your remembrance of her case did not have to do with your personal agenda, you would have things to say of the actions that lead to circumstances that allowed for her to be raped the way she was. Her country is in turmoil because you liceheads have created circumstances where things like what happened to get take place. But let's ignore the root of the problem. Because when a man rapes a woman, it's his workplace and his colleagues that are held responsible for his actions.

First of all, I don't care for foreign in references but while we are at it, what counts as foreign interference?? When Taliban want to pursue peace meetings, it's Qatar or Pakistan that they turn their faces to rather than directly approaching the afghan government and otherwise, they have an aversion towards foreign interference.
Vietnam probably didn't have *******s living in USA and opposing the USA occupation of Vietnam while supporting Vietnamese terrorists who were creating chaos to justify the occupation of Vietnam by Americans at the same time.
When you support bombing the afghan government, you don't get to be the ******* who criticizes it for being incompetent too.

Farkhunda was torched as the result of the brainwashing that the afghan society has been subjected to by the religious fanatics that you worship and last I remember, you justified rukhshaana's death because apparently, she ran away from her husband of 55, for the 5th time.

You are a butcher. Stop trying to act like a poet. You sound like an idiot. Poets don't seeks to put in to prospective the physics of how sunsets are formed in order to justify their beauty or admire them.

Don't call me dear or tell me this or that is mean. I am not a pair of shoes that have "grown on" to you. I remember every single "mean" thing you have said to me in the past. I will be more than glad to remind you in case you have forgotten.

[Karachi]

^his types are the most dangerous, he is knowledgeable, western educated, yet always supports Taliban and the ISIS life style.

He reminds me of the couple who killed 14 people just the other day in California, they were very educated, the guy was probably making over 100K as a health inspector. But the monster inside them makes them do really evil things

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I will criticize your choice for living in the west while mocking afghans who are desperately trying to make sense of their lives or fixing their country

LOOOOL, yeah Ghani and Karzai, the former a failed professor and the latter who couldn't tolerate dish washing sure are "desparately trying to make sense of their lives." Nice try to appeal to emotion. Its fascinating how Ghani and Karzai have the whole lot of their families deposited for safe keeping in the West alongside the likes of you, cheerleading the bomb dropping.

for as long as I remember the horrible incident of eating an egg salad sandwich prepared with Greek yogurt because the mayonnaise was tossed out of the fridge and in to the trash bin a week prior to that. And I can assure you, that would be a very very long time from now.

Well, I am not a fan of Greek Yogurt - so I can empathize, but I am sort of glad it happened to you of all people.

These young men need to realize that these individuals are just tools of a bigger plan and agenda.

And Karzai Bibi is just some non tool awesome guy right? As is that fruit of a man Atmar? Harper Bibi and you would love for these young men to realize your agenda and just stop - but it seems like instead they are intensifying their resistance.

That wiping them or other innocent people by roadsides is not necessarily going to solve the problem.

Hmm, but Khost Protection Force and the northern militias and Dostum's men wiping them out in their own homes is going to solve some problems instead of creating them right???? lol. You're so full of s*** that it smells all the way here.

But you will not be the one suggesting or pointing that to them because that will mean revealing to them the fact that there are people who gladly cheer for these young men to go ahead and give up their lives for the sake of the ultimate freedom but omit the part where YOUR TAX MONEY PAYS FOR THE BULLETS THAT PIERCES THROUGH THEIR CHESTS

Ahem, oh and Harper Bibi is just firing flowers at them that disintegrate into 1000 shamrocks where each clover leaflet wishes them and their families good luck. So you are sort of double screwed because not only do you support the Great Baldini and his inheritor Ghani, but you also pay for the bullets too. So the contrary, those that oppose this war still have a moral level above you.

and that you consider Americans capable for having the courage to build their own empire at the cost of the blood of these young men. You will not reveal that hypocrisy to them.

Lol. causation does not justification make my dear. Insurgents the world round and any military historian of any worth would tell you that the American military might is incomparable (in its potential to be fair, not its use).

To make this clear to you since you dont seem to be able to understand basic comparisons: its as you said the other day - a man can have a prostitute in his bed and still be a good leader. In this same vein, the Americans do have a state of the art military with the F35 jet and what not, but that doesnt make them morally superior.

It's very interesting that you should remember the case of that one girl which was raped by an ANA officer but the 100s of others that are subjected to abuse or stoned to death otherwise are almost invisible to you.

How can they be invisible when you are apparently using the deaths of those stoned and incapacitated for political gain while ignoring the stonings and the lashings inflicted by your beloved ANA thugs and drugees.

If you gave a rat's ass about we honour and your remembrance of her case did not have to do with your personal agenda, you would have things to say of the actions that lead to circumstances that allowed for her to be raped the way she was.

Oh you mean those circumstances when your parsizubaan types welcomed in the reign of Najib and used Marxists to try and build jamabajuiceistan back in the 1970s and the 80s that led to the most violent conflict of that era which in turn resulted in a fractured nation and fractured tribes. Those circumstances creating a war of near Darwinian effects where tribal leaders like Karzai were effiminate and stuck to the back lines instead of leading from the front where the zealots emulated the Ghazis of Amanullah's era and died in the drove to throw out your Moscovite retards?

Sure we remember the conditions your predecessors created very well

Her country is in turmoil because you liceheads have created circumstances where things like what happened to get take place.

LOOOOL. Yes they came out of nowhere it couldnt have been the conflict initiated in the 1980s and 1970s by DZJ 1.0 who thought she could inflict the kabuli mindset onto the countryside using General Boris from Moscow to do the job.

Come to think of it, its like every generation of Afghans has had a DZJ who comes up with justifications to "advance" the Afghan people using guns and swords and pistols and outside powers.

Oh let me guess "that all happened before I was alive" therefore it never happened.

But let's ignore the root of the problem. Because when a man rapes a woman, it's his workplace and his colleagues that are held responsible for his actions.

Reference?

First of all, I don't care for foreign in references but while we are at it, what counts as foreign interference?? When Taliban want to pursue peace meetings, it's Qatar or Pakistan that they turn their faces to rather than directly approaching the afghan government and otherwise, they have an aversion towards foreign interference.

LOL. There is no Afghan government, there is just a clown show that requires 35 nations to prop up. These clows in turn are being used as inlets to give a forward operating base to see into China, Pakistan, iran, etc etc. So even that guilt comes back to you since you are basically ensuring Afghanistan be seen as a constant threat to her neighbors who neither want a strong Americocentric Afghanistan but also dont want militancy spreading. Therefore they will do their best to maintain a constant state of inflammation.

Vietnam probably didn't have *******s living in USA and opposing the USA occupation of Vietnam while supporting Vietnamese terrorists who were creating chaos to justify the occupation of Vietnam by Americans at the same time.

Wrong again. There is a great frontline documentary about reporters who were taken out by anti northern Vietnam pervs, lechers, and sell outs like you for simply reporting on a proxy force called the National Front whose intention was to topple the government that beat back the Americans from Saigon. And in fact, many Americans who have not an ounce of Afghan blood also oppose American interventionalism because they view it as a moral bankruptcy if their national character.

When you support bombing the afghan government, you don't get to be the ******* who criticizes it for being incompetent too.

Nah, under the first amendment thankfully, we can express opposition to the DZJ types loudly and proudly.

Farkhunda was torched as the result of the brainwashing that the afghan society has been subjected to by the religious fanatics that you worship

Ehhhhh (sound of buzzer going off again). Farkhonda was herself a wahhabist who studied in the madrassah and was torched because she opposed the CULTURAL custom that we all even saw in our youths of Tawiz sales. The salesman then claimed she burned a Quran for which actual literalists will tell you no real punishment exists since the methodology of Quranic disposal in Othman ibn Affan's time was burning the text and in the Prophets time the full book was not in a jamaa mushaf.

There you go again, misuing a young girls death to make your pseudo point

and last I remember, you justified rukhshaana's death because apparently, she ran away from her husband of 55, for the 5th time.

Lol. wrong again. That thread still exists and everyone hear already saw you get trounced there when you tried to create out of thin air a random nonexistent mullah ala Khamaa news sources that were also soundly rebuffed by investigators.

You are a butcher. Stop trying to act like a poet.

Thats a bit dense... so you are saying there is no butcher out there that is poetic? Its sort of unfair to butchers everywhere.

You sound like an idiot. Poets don't seeks to put in to prospective the physics of how sunsets are formed in order to justify their beauty or admire them.

And wannabe poets dont need to ignore the fact that those physics effects describe why sunsets turn the adjacent sky RED not blue.

Don't call me dear or tell me this or that is mean.

Thats a little bit of a mean request.

I am not a pair of shoes that have "grown on" to you.

I wish you were so I could by a new pair of shoes instead.

I remember every single "mean" thing you have said to me in the past.

Hardly as mean as you - but its OK, I forgave you since I am the bigger person

I will be more than glad to remind you in case you have forgotten.

First of all, you were playing the juvenile role of a mean girl by pushing around a girl half your age and making fun of her skin color. So all of those instances were applauded here because you were out of control - acting like an internet bully.

x

[BarakzaiAbdali]

^his types are the most dangerous, he is knowledgeable, western educated, yet always supports Taliban and the ISIS life style.

He reminds me of the couple who killed 14 people just the other day in California, they were very educated, the guy was probably making over 100K as a health inspector. But the monster inside them makes them do really evil things

Crotchee, we are having a conversation here and I can still smell the stank on your lips and mouth from crawling through figurative feces to please Jennifer and Tom at work to convince them your real name isnt Ahmad but Billy. Everytime I see you write, I get sick to my stomach because I see a man whose testicles have completely receded into his abdomen only to be replaced by a female donkey genitals.

Explaining causation is hardly a ringing endorsement. What created that couple are mentally handicapped nitwits like you spreading your dinsinformation about what is going on. Thankfully we have people like Dr. Scheuer, CIA trained who are there to ensure fools like you dont get the last word (so now who would you like to report being the bigger threat, myself or the former head of the UBL Unit at the CIA who trained the agents that tracked him?):

The Islamist attack in San Bernardino: The attack itself is merely another small skirmish — and another American defeat — in a war that an increasing part of Islamic world is waging on the United States. The Islamist are waging that war in large measure because of our national government’s relentless, tyranny-protecting interventionism in the Muslim world. As noted above, these attacks will become a fairly reliable feature of American life, and while that is certainly too bad, they will continue so long as the national government neither annihilates the enemy nor wises up, stops intervening, and leaves the Middle East to the catastrophic self-destruction it so richly merit

http://non-intervention.com/