More Pashtun women should be involved in music and arts

[faye]

you are the biggest hypocrite. twice i have seen you freaking out at the idea of these liberated muslim women marrying non-muslims, saying they need to be contained. liberty for women, does not mean insecure men, like you, still own and control them.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

what does that have to do with female participation in society ........clearly you are not a measure of anything rational as you clearly have no coherency in your arguments. The only insecurity is from females of Western background who want to degrade Muslim women to be as trashy as they are .....women like yourself and try to play the emotional black mail tactic of accusing others of insecurity to manipulate women to follow suit.

[Toramana]

saw an afghan woman giving a lecture about afghan women participating in art yesterday, she was married to a white guy and drinking wine in the afternoon while rubbing noses with rich jews.

i am all for afghan women participating in these things, but 100% against this stuff being promoted or invested in by kaffirs. art for the sake of strengthening the culture, not to be some kaffirs little pet project.

Yes, I agree with that. One shouldn't perform art for the interest, comfort or happiness of others but rather for self-gratification and cultural enrichment. And one should maintain one's dignity.

The problem arises when you stigmatize art like EmKhan etc. are doing. Then you leave it to the vulgarity of Brothal houses, dancing families, etc. etc.

But I will avoid saying such words like kafir etc. etc. These seem distasteful. Why you quick-jump to bring religious antagonism into it?

[faye]

what does that have to do with female participation in society ........clearly you are not a measure of anything rational as you clearly have no coherency in your arguments. The only insecurity is from females of Western background who want to degrade Muslim women to be as trashy as they are .....women like yourself and try to play the emotional black mail tactic of accusing others of insecurity to manipulate women to follow suit.

was that an argument? it thought it was a critique of your hypocrisy.
oh, my, the word games you are apt at mean nix. you are a sexual pervert, as we have all been able to witness, by your expose of kinky and violent sexual fantasies.

falsely accusing me of wanting muslim women to be 'trashy' is irrational and a lie. accusing me of being the trashy one, when you are the pervert, is also irrational and illogical.
so where is this revolution through reason?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

was that an argument? it thought it was a critique of your hypocrisy.
oh, my, the word games you are apt at mean nix. you are a sexual pervert, as we have all been able to witness, by your expose of kinky and violent sexual fantasies.

falsely accusing me of wanting muslim women to be 'trashy' is irrational and a lie. accusing me of being the trashy one, when you are the pervert, is also irrational and illogical.
so where is this revolution through reason?

It's very rational as they're the norms of your upbringing and your culture the typical White ethno-centrism has historically sought to pervade its deteriorating society in other parts of the world "White man's burden" or shall we say in this case "White woman's burden".

Your claim that something is irrational lacks merit since you don't have the capacity for rationality in the first place as you have demonstrated.

[faye]

lol, you do not know the 'norms' of my upbringing. you are more mentally colonised than me, with your kinky perversions looped in with your anger, and your emotional immaturity.
your belief in 'white mans/womens burdon', must be a projection because of your own inferiority complex, due to the mutazillah, failings for the islamic golden age.
the need now, for the likes of yourself to get your education and existence in the west, is obviously painful for you.

lol, who really cares about this' rationality' when it is losers who are supposedly rational, highly educated and knowledgable, like yourself, who are the ones wrecking the planet with toxic creations, making wars, running around killing people in cinemas and indulging in kinky sexual fantasies?
that's just word games.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I do

you're white
European
existing in a land mass which you was affording to by colonial enterprise
thus you were raised within that sociiocultural paradigm

your accusations and analysis of the merits of others rationality is based on the false premises of your culture , thus has no princpal rationality whatsoever, but it is a logical fallacy. The insecurities are a projection of the emotional black mail to pull everyone with you. The self destructive character of your culture.

[faye]

wow, so original muttzeal.

you are white/pink, bald and half blind
american
existing in a land mass that you are colonising
thus you were raised within the socioicultural paradigm of u.s. of a.
you've seemingly spent more than half your life in school being indoctrinated.
horror movies, grunge/heavy metal, videos, youtube, tv, kinky porn, internet/forum addiction, due to lack of a real life.
obsesssive need to be 'right', hence insecure.

such an educated, logical rational use of the english language you have there. you obviously have been successfully, mentally colonised by your american masters.
don't tie yourself in a knot there, with your anger/frustrations.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

most of that is just your run away imagination, a caricature you create for yourself to cope with your own social and cultural brainwashing. and how I've humiliated you with ease.

you may hve named some incidental facts about me, my appearance, but none can assert the pathology of my paradigm. However I described yours to a T. You're a very generic case of white European psychology of supremacy mixed with white guilt, a very conflicted soul you must be.

[faye]

i saw a doco the other night about a music school started by an afghan man, in kabul. it was a happy story, for a change, and there were many young women learning musical instruments as well as the boys.

[Manzareh]

The bigoted interpretation you are attaching to the commands of Allah indicates your own insecurity regarding your women-folk, your identity crisis, your lack of guts to adjust or to at least find some level of compatibility with modern global culture, and a fundamental lacking in your brought up (some confined brought up). It is not something written on the wall. 95% Muslims in your own environment would not agree with you---would rather consider you psychologically unstable.

You simply have taken refuge in an interpretation that provides some moral ground to your psychologically abnormal thinking and weaknesses of your personality and character. I can well imagine how maladjusted you might be in your environment.

Now just answer one question; why is it ok for you to watch movies and listen to songs ? If you are not looking at it as art and consider it bad for your own women and think that there is sin attached to it, doesn't it indicate you are doing it for your own pervert satisfaction? Were you considering it art, you would not be considering it sinful.

Work on your own-self instead of super-imposing your abnormal/unstable psychosis on others.

You see, youve been in this forum for ages and yet have the same tactic, you believe in the intermingling of women and men..not only is this against mainstream Islam but also against Pashtun customs, so your a loser on both terms, and when a Muslim man reminds you of the consequences of mingling with pradeh women instead of refuting the Islamic law you label the person a pervert and insecure, more like your insecure, perhapse the women folk in your household have no pashtun or muslim morals and no dignity that you feel intimidated by the idea of muslim women adhering to pashtunwali and Islam, your insecure in your own faith that you find comfort in intertwining the concept/role of a muslim man with your own personal perspective and spit it out of your backside as some mainstream ideology which muslims should abide by, prove to us that Islamically mixing with women and all the other ludicrous laws that you choose to twist are halal then maybe you will have a leg to stand on.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

You see, youve been in this forum for ages and yet have the same tactic, you believe in the intermingling of women and men..not only is this against mainstream Islam but also against Pashtun customs,

Against mainstream Islam???????? then please explain to us why did Khalifa Umar Ibn Khattab(ra) appoint a woman named Shiffa Bint Abdallah (ra) as head of the markets? Clearly she had to interact with men to run the markets right?

http://muslimheritage.com/topics/default.cfm?ArticleID=854

and how did Nabi(saw) meet Khadija and run her businesses for her???? were they interacting by carrier pigeons?


The most obvious things escape you; so much for you saying you follow Islam more than Pashtun culture.

[Master Khan]

to combat misogyny and hatred and women will only come when men get used to seeing women equally participant in all aspects of society.....this includes the Arts, Media and Music.

We should encourage Pashtun women of all ages and backgrounds to enter film, television, music and media such as journalism, internet and writing

Maybe EMKhan will commit suicide if this happens, but one low life is worth losing for many lives to be born

how about NO!!!
what a stupid thing to say..then again you always said stupid things.
Pashtun women should be more involved in educations and learning about their language and culture then Damtub.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

how about NO!!!
what a stupid thing to say..then again you always said stupid things.
Pashtun women should be more involved in educations and learning about their language and culture then Damtub.

I agree with you except one thing, music and arts are a part of culture.

Damtub is the culture of the Daam, who are not Pashtuns.

Yes, more Pashtun women should be involved with building their country and future, not entertaining men. When country is built, they can belly dance for all I care.

And another thing, Pashtane peghle daase na gadezi. Pashtun girls do not "dance" for men.

[Manzareh]

Against mainstream Islam???????? then please explain to us why did Khalifa Umar Ibn Khattab(ra) appoint a woman named Shiffa Bint Abdallah (ra) as head of the markets? Clearly she had to interact with men to run the markets right?

http://muslimheritage.com/topics/default.cfm?ArticleID=854

and how did Nabi(saw) meet Khadija and run her businesses for her???? were they interacting by carrier pigeons?


The most obvious things escape you; so much for you saying you follow Islam more than Pashtun culture.

Were they singing and dancing though?, now your saying intermingling is also halal, what next.