Request to ban and prohibit

[unknownprince]

Salaams,

I would like this forum to be off limits to people who support the war on the Afghan people. People like noorzai, pir Rokhan, Zahed, and Mostafa.

this is a Pashtun forum. Pashtuns are all Muslims.

It is against Islam to support war on your own people

It is also against Pashtunwali to support war on your own people.

Please do not disappoint us.

Thanks

[BLS_1919v2.0]

This is a forum for everyone to discuss and give their opinions. You can't just ask for people to get banned because they don't agree with your point of view. If that was the case one too many people would be banned and it makes for horrible discussion.

[unknownprince]

There is a holocaust being committed against the Afghan people. Freedom of thought and outright support for the war that is against Afghan people are two different things.

Jews would not tolerate someone supporting the Nazi death camps, likewise, this should not be something to debate about.

Just today 58 people in Pakistan died from drone attacks, and 16 people were killed in a US airstrike.

This is a massacre, and any views supporting such can and must not be tolerated here.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I think that attention should be paid as to who throws out the first insult. The retort is generally: be a bigger person. Thats BS. No one is going to sit there and tolerate insults and no one should. However, if someone, in the words of Charlie Murphy, becomes a "habitual line stepper" by instigating a fight by directly confronting a member repeatedly then that should be identified.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Listen Ashraf, you again fail to see the forest for the trees (I think I got that right :-P). This is a forum, not a political think tank or some revolutionary hub. If you are concerned about this as many of us, you work for it in the real world. Many people here feel horrible about the plight of our people, so we are active in organization/charities outside of this forum. That is the only logical recourse.

BTW this is not a holocaust rather one of the many international and regional proxy wars that are being played out in our homeland. Because we are weak, lack unity, political sense, etc we are paying the price for it. There are so many issues internally, and have been so that has put us in this current position. Now the fact that you can't stomach another individual's views than tough luck and grow a backbone. In the real world, opposition is a lot stiffer and consequences far more stark.

To politically mature, we need to take a step back and hear all views, and the internet does this by giving us a platform to speak on.

[Sheenka]

if you say stop or carry on the war, like its gonna happen lol

[gadoonwal]

check their ips pls.
the same people coming with different nicks.

[unknownprince]

[QUOTE=BLS_1919v2.0;481879]

Listen Ashraf, you again fail to see the forest for the trees (I think I got that right :-P). This is a forum, not a political think tank or some revolutionary hub.

This is a Pashtun forum, not a pro war against Pashtun forum.

If you are concerned about this as many of us, you work for it in the real world. Many people here feel horrible about the plight of our people

, so we are active in organization/charities outside of this forum. That is the only logical recourse.

BTW this is not a holocaust rather one of the many international and regional proxy wars that are being played out in our homeland.

The mass slaughter from the sky and by the night raids target specifically Pashtuns. This is a war of aggression against the Pashtuns. The US is angry that they are losing, so now they are killing all. These are war crimes.

k, lack unity, political sense, etc we are paying the price for it.

No, we had a few cancerous individuals who supported war on our people. People like Najib, and todays Kabul government.

There are so many issues internally, and have been so that has put us in this current position. Now the fact that you can't stomach another individual's views than tough luck and grow a backbone.

When someone supports war against Afghan people, it is not something that can be tolerated at all.

In the real world, opposition is a lot stiffer and consequences far more stark.

Irrelevant to me pointing out that support for this Afghan Holocaust can not be accepted.

To politically mature, we need to take a step back and hear all views, and the internet does this by giving us a platform to speak on.

No Afghan will ever tolerate people who support the bloodshed of Afghans which is all due to the foreigners

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Ashraf you are just spouting rhetoric...that is it. If you want to hear simpleton black and white then by all means continue on, but it doesn't add much merit to your statements. US doesn't base its policies just to kill, they have their objectives. While I don't like it, I can't make into a bollywood us vs them.

Pashtuns have many flaws in their society and they aren't due to a few people...there is a chronic stagnation in the pashtun area (you see it back home and in diaspora). Stop blaming others for the problems of Pashtuns. They have their interests and we have our own. If we lack the proper tools, we can't blame others for picking politically prudent options.

It is very simple, this is a forum with diverse opinions...deal with it.

[AnGaaR]

No this is PF (Pakistan Forum) :D

[unknownprince]

This is a war against Afghan people on several fronts. One of them is to divide along ethnic lines, and the second is to kill as many as possible through night raids and airstrikes.

This is a crime.

[unknownprince]

[QUOTE=BLS_1919v2.0;481986]

Ashraf you are just spouting rhetoric...that is it. If you want to hear simpleton black and white then by all means continue on, but it doesn't add much merit to your statements

Do you deny that this war is not directed at Afghans, and specifically Pashtuns? The war is against the Afghan people. It is black and white. All we see is Afghans being killed in airstrikes and nightraids, and being tortured in prisons.

US doesn't base its policies just to kill, they have their objectives.

Actually, their military industry complex does allow them to base their policies just to kill.

While I don't like it, I can't make into a bollywood us vs them.

As 100 Afghans die every day, there is no need to remain blind as to what this really is- a war against Afghan people.

Pashtuns have many flaws in their society and they aren't due to a few people...there is a chronic stagnation in the pashtun area (you see it back home and in diaspora).

This is irrelevant to the constant massacre of Afghan people by airstrikes and night raids.

Stop blaming others for the problems of Pashtuns. They have their interests and we have our own.

I should not blame the foreigners for the deaths of Afghans? I should blame only the Afghans. Yes, while it is true that Afghanistan should have been stabilized with an air defense and strong army, this by no means should imply that foreigners can massacre civilians with impunity. They should understand like the Russians that they will never achieve their objectives, and that they will continue to have daily casualties and loss in treasure. The pressure is on them since they ware there as aggressors. The pressure is on them to quit. No Afghan will stop opposing them until they are all out. We do not care for their interests. Like the Soviet's interests, their objectives will fail, BUT there should be no support among anyone for them at all.

[unknownprince]

Qaddafi has exposed someones private information. This is a violation of the rules.

Qaddafi is Mdresden is MeWrora.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Ashraf you can't simplify these things. Now I won't repeat myself any more. It is a forum, you will have to deal with different views. End of story.

[Qaddafi]

Do not fear....great pashtuns will get banned if they ever dare venture to speak against Religion....Tyranny is in many forms including on this forum.

Plus it is part of Pashtunwali who wage war on your own people in the name of Islam? like what Shia and Sunni Pashtuns are doing, what Taliban are doing?

Again...I still cant muster why children have infested this forum with stupid views.....I suggest the thread starter to read some history of Afghanistan, and understand that Afghans have been slaughtering eachother for centuries and Nato are committing no genocide that wasnt started before they came over.

Nato did not invent Afghan tribalism and neither did Nato sell Peshawer to the Sikhs.

One needs knowledge of the region before they start blowing the war horn.....and please stop associating Pashtunwali with Islam....Pashtunwali out dates Islam....Islam contradicts Pashtunwali.

Hypocrites.....why doesnt the thread starter talk about the number of people killed by Taliban in the name of holy jihad.....Useless!