I have got an inappropiate infarction

[Roshina]

Also if you read the post above you would know how serious this is

People refusing to join this forum because some members here are being violent towards other members (mostly "pro-Pakistanis")? ...

[SwatiTheBrave1]

People refusing to join this forum because some members here are being violent towards other members (mostly "pro-Pakistanis")? ...

don't say "some" for gods sake. Out of all the members, Its only Talal, Dino and me that are here and we show our Pakistani Pride. If your gonna give me a reply telling me theirs more than us, then the rest of the Pakistanis that are here and quiet about this issue sukk at being Pakistanis.

[Talal]

QT I pm'd u

[Son of Mountains]

Its general trend of the forums that admin is always anti pakistan or supporters of anti pakistanis.
At c.k, master khan was banned istead of a rubbish man pukhtoon007. There was a stupid "Joker" too who's banning was sadness for many.

@Qrratu and Mesbah: if i start u pm or reports, there will be so many and i believe that no afghanistani will then bear the banning of Sarbaz khan, makeen maseed, afghan soldier, sanger and their so called pashtun gruop. I know admin of forums only banns pakistan lovers

@all other tor_khan lovers
i thought him sensible person. Yes he is asset of PF but whatsoever he is, i ll think him my enemy if he will support those people who are anti of my country.
The end.

[Admin Khan]

Id like to take a slight dramaturgical approach to the situation on hand and clear a few things up.

1)If you have a problem with an infraction you have received, Feel free to contact me or a moderator.

2)PF does not encourage members to disrespect and insult one another. If you see a post that you deem to be inappropriate, please contact any of our staff members. We will gladly embrace your message and rectify the situation immediately.

Now Dinosaur Khan, I am sure you know this infraction you have received is based on a cumulative behavior. You and I both know how many times we have discussed this, with that being said, I will send you a message and speak to you regarding this. Talal, I have also sent you a message. Swatithebrave1, I have responded to your PM. I am not on this website 24/7, I have other commitments as well.

[QUOTE=Son of Mountains;24431]Its general trend of the forums that admin is always anti pakistan or supporters of anti pakistanis./QUOTE]
Please refrain from generalizing. You do not know if I am Pakistani, Afghan or better yet a complete different nationality. Id appreciate it if remarks like these are sent to me privately. With that being said, those that know me here, are very well aware of my stance. They know I handle things from a neutral perspective.

You can not point a single post of mine in which I have insulted Afghanistan or Pakistan.

Thanks.


P.S

This whole concept that PF is "Anti-Pakistani" is nothing but absurd, I find it absolutely ridiculous that such a comment is made by our respected members. Every member who I have seen type up a comment Anti-anything without a logical explanation has been warned. But expect to see various views in the political forums. You can not expect us to ban everyone who dislikes Pakistan, I am sorry but that would be too extreme on our boards behalf. I encourage freedom of speech, but everything to a certain extent. I am not even going to go into the details of the above as I have made myself very,very clear previously.

With that being said, I am locking this thread. If anyone has any concerns,feel free to contact me.

[tor_khan]

It seems that overnight (for me at least) there's been a lot of debate over something that occured following the starting of a thread by Dino.

In this instance, I think that we should concentrate on the "now".

First of all, a public show trial is NOT what this should have become. It was a matter between a moderator (me) and a contributor (Dino).

Dino knows that it is not about a signature. It's unfortunate that members should think the matter was as simple as that. As a matter of interest I had already begun the discussion with Admin Khan with regards to a "banned words" list - not because I want to impose restrictions - but because web developers/forum admins etc. take this into account when building websites. We all work within boundaries and it's good to know what may/may not be acceptable. See http://banbuilder.com/ for an explanation of this and the kinds of words that were being added to a "banned" words list.

The four letter P word that has ak in the middle and that ends with i is an example of a word that I don't want using here. I am against it because it is a loaded term and my discussion with Admin Khan was that there were people who were being creative with getting around this.

Again, when the dust settles, Dino knows that I agree with him on this. I don't support variations of this word. That was a conversation that I'd already begun with Admin Khan. Qrratugai also made reference to it in a reminder about forum rules.

The problem stemmed for an attempt where there was a clear intention to start a politically divisive thread in a space where you least appear to expect it to happen - Dalkhor - is another loaded term. Imagine for example building a similar thread on a Panjabee forum called Akhrot. It's not appropriate. There are too many passions attached to the misuse of these words and whereas there is nothing at all wrong with daal, those who eat it and so on, why begin a thread that is obviously intended to be inflammatory.

The paradox of the situation is that I was then labelled anti-Pakistani because I locked a thread that could have potentially been anti-Pakistani.

I don't think that my messages to users should spill out into an open area like this. As another point of interest, Talal (posting as Credere) shared some forum rules with Admin Khan and quite clearly one of the points there was around moderators, disputes and responding to them. Opening up threads that are intended to character attack are wrong.

I've already had a serious conversation around this recently resulting in the deletion of a thread.

I am human so mistakes may occur, but on the other hand, I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that I think I judge carefully. If there is a dispute, however, I am willing to listen.

I am disappointed that I have to write this because, provided we stick to the rules, there is no dispute. No-one need call anyone anti this or anti that.