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    Salam. I have been lurking on these forums as a guest but I have finally made an account as I wanted to participate in all these discussions and debates as well as ask some questions of my own.

    My own background is that I am a Pashtun born and raised in America who hails from the Pakistani side of the Durand Line. Specifically, we are originally from Nowshera(our village is Ziarat Kaka Sahib) although my family has long since moved out and most of us live in Peshawar and Islamabad. My tribal information is a bit complicated as we don't come from any of the established Pashtun tribes; We are part of a small clan descended from a Turkish Sufi saint by the name of Akhund Adyan Baba(His shrine is in Akora Khattak) who settled among the pashtuns and was adopted by them. We are identified by several names including Seljukis, Qazis, and Qazis of Ziarat Kaka Sahib, although I would say Seljuki is the proper name of our tribe. But that isn't to say we don't have any relations with established tribes. My maternal grandmother is a Yusufzai from Swabi and half of my relatives are of that background as we are heavily married into them. My paternal grandmother is a Khattak from Nowshera although not as many of my relatives are Khattaks.

    Even though I am born and raised in the United States because of my parent's effort as well as frequent visits to Pakistan I speak fluent pashto(I'm okay but still lacking with reading and writing) although my vocabulary and exposure to different dialects is lacking due to not spending enough time with Pashtuns outside of my family and the other few pashtuns we have where I live. Alhamdulliah I also strongly identify as a Pashtun as well as a Sunni Muslim.

    My personal hobbies are reading, study of subjects that interest me, and writing. Specifically I am interested in Islamic studies and religion in general, as well as philosophy, history, linguistics, and politics. I am also interested in Economics and other social sciences although I haven't invested myself in them too much. I have noticed many intelligent people on this forum and I hope to discuss all this.

    Having said this, though, there are some questions I would like to ask about this forum the answers to which will decide whether I continue to use it.
    1. I have noticed there are many trolls and people with strange personalities as well as non-pashtuns posing as Pashtuns to cause trouble. They often derail threads and I wonder how much influence they have on the thread.
    2. Is this place safe? Donald Trump's administration is very harsh and I am concerned that using this website could get me in trouble with the government. There is no radical messaging here but unfortunately the Feds can make something out of nothing if you're Muslim and Pashtun.

    And that's it. Hope being on this forum ends up being a great experience!
    Salam.
    Originally posted by Kaushika

    majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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    Walikum salam and welcome to the forum. Recommend some fiction??



    "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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    • #3
      Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post

      Walikum salam and welcome to the forum. Recommend some fiction??


      I usually don't read much fiction but right now I'm reading Lord of the Rings. Pretty good series.
      Originally posted by Kaushika

      majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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      • #4
        Walaikum as salam

        Welcome to the forum

        This forum is a place for Pashtuns from all around the world to communicate with each other, exchange views on a wide variety of subjects in free manner and of course take advantage of wide variety of knowledge tools we have on the forum. Non Pashtuns are also welcomed who join this forum for whatever reason.

        It is up to you to make the decision if this forum is safe to use wherever you live but I would say this forum is not linked to any organization or promotes a particular agenda.

        If you have need any help, pm a member of staff who will be more than hally to help.

        P.S. Dont delveleve too much into philosphy, never ends well :P

        Enjoy your stay, steray meshe

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        • #5
          welcome

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Traveller View Post
            Salam. I have been lurking on these forums as a guest but I have finally made an account as I wanted to participate in all these discussions and debates as well as ask some questions of my own.

            My own background is that I am a Pashtun born and raised in America who hails from the Pakistani side of the Durand Line. Specifically, we are originally from Nowshera(our village is Ziarat Kaka Sahib) although my family has long since moved out and most of us live in Peshawar and Islamabad. My tribal information is a bit complicated as we don't come from any of the established Pashtun tribes; We are part of a small clan descended from a Turkish Sufi saint by the name of Akhund Adyan Baba(His shrine is in Akora Khattak) who settled among the pashtuns and was adopted by them. We are identified by several names including Seljukis, Qazis, and Qazis of Ziarat Kaka Sahib, although I would say Seljuki is the proper name of our tribe. But that isn't to say we don't have any relations with established tribes. My maternal grandmother is a Yusufzai from Swabi and half of my relatives are of that background as we are heavily married into them. My paternal grandmother is a Khattak from Nowshera although not as many of my relatives are Khattaks.

            Even though I am born and raised in the United States because of my parent's effort as well as frequent visits to Pakistan I speak fluent pashto(I'm okay but still lacking with reading and writing) although my vocabulary and exposure to different dialects is lacking due to not spending enough time with Pashtuns outside of my family and the other few pashtuns we have where I live. Alhamdulliah I also strongly identify as a Pashtun as well as a Sunni Muslim.

            My personal hobbies are reading, study of subjects that interest me, and writing. Specifically I am interested in Islamic studies and religion in general, as well as philosophy, history, linguistics, and politics. I am also interested in Economics and other social sciences although I haven't invested myself in them too much. I have noticed many intelligent people on this forum and I hope to discuss all this.

            Having said this, though, there are some questions I would like to ask about this forum the answers to which will decide whether I continue to use it.
            1. I have noticed there are many trolls and people with strange personalities as well as non-pashtuns posing as Pashtuns to cause trouble. They often derail threads and I wonder how much influence they have on the thread.
            2. Is this place safe? Donald Trump's administration is very harsh and I am concerned that using this website could get me in trouble with the government. There is no radical messaging here but unfortunately the Feds can make something out of nothing if you're Muslim and Pashtun.

            And that's it. Hope being on this forum ends up being a great experience!
            Salam.
            pakhair rahglay ror jana.
            That was one big intro.Anyway - I hope you enjoy using this forum and participate in the discussions going on here.You do not have to worry about safety,that shouldn't be a problem.
            You are right to say that there are many trolls here who post and comment absolute c**p, but unfortunately nothing can be done about that.
            Welcome once again.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by toughpashtun View Post
              pakhair rahglay ror jana.
              That was one big intro.Anyway - I hope you enjoy using this forum and participate in the discussions going on here.You do not have to worry about safety,that shouldn't be a problem.
              You are right to say that there are many trolls here who post and comment absolute c**p, but unfortunately nothing can be done about that.
              Welcome once again.
              Manana. I wanted to give a long intro so people can get to know me and my background.
              Originally posted by Kaushika

              majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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              • #8
                Non-pashtuns do tend to be annoying and are especially irksome when the members are discussing an enervating topic, such as our origins or questions that might delve onto verbose topics. Thats when these posers chip in. Boils ones blood especiallh when one isn't a member and can't reply

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ZarakDurrani606 View Post
                  Non-pashtuns do tend to be annoying and are especially irksome when the members are discussing an enervating topic, such as our origins or questions that might delve onto verbose topics. Thats when these posers chip in. Boils ones blood especiallh when one isn't a member and can't reply
                  Tbh it's kind of gratifying that they're so obsessed over us.
                  Originally posted by Kaushika

                  majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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                  • #10
                    ^ Don't be fooled in to believing that. No one is here because of their inmsense admiration for the Pashtuns. They are here to rip off whatever uniformed identity you build for yourselves as a nation. They will distract you with stupid arguments and keep you occupied while the rest of the world advances far ahead.
                    I have been in this forum for over 5 years. Subjects most popular here are bachabazi, how attractive Pashtuns are and how Pashtuns should get rid of non Pashtuns afghans in Afghanistan.

                    "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                      ^ Don't be fooled in to believing that. No one is here because of their inmsense admiration for the Pashtuns. They are here to rip off whatever uniformed identity you build for yourselves as a nation. They will distract you with stupid arguments and keep you occupied while the rest of the world advances far ahead.
                      I have been in this forum for over 5 years. Subjects most popular here are bachabazi, how attractive Pashtuns are and how Pashtuns should get rid of non Pashtuns afghans in Afghanistan.
                      Lol I know. I just find it funny how much energy they spend in their efforts. Although you are right that we should be careful to make sure they don't find success.
                      Originally posted by Kaushika

                      majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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                      • #12
                        You should get a genetic test to see if that claim of Seljuk/Turkic ancestry is legit.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dovahkiin View Post
                          You should get a genetic test to see if that claim of Seljuk/Turkic ancestry is legit.
                          Gemetic tests won't show much since the Turkic element is heavily diluted and is mainly patrilineal. And We don't really care about "claiming" Turkic ancestry. It's just a fact about our tribe. We have a family tree going back to our progenitor Sheikh Akhund Adyan Baba Seljuki who came to historic Afghanistan in the early 1600s at the behest of his student Sheikh Rahimkar(also known as Kaka Sahib). His shrine is still in Akora Khattak and his story is well known to many.
                          Originally posted by Kaushika

                          majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                            Manana. I wanted to give a long intro so people can get to know me and my background.
                            I have been thinking over this for a few days . That we should start a thread where we all post some details about ourselves.Such as place of residence,where we are from originally,job,family etc.
                            I would not give my name(as I want some degree of privacy) but I would be okay with the other details.
                            Everyone can post whatever they feel like sharing about themselves.
                            What do you think ?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by toughpashtun View Post
                              I have been thinking over this for a few days . That we should start a thread where we all post some details about ourselves.Such as place of residence,where we are from originally,job,family etc.
                              I would not give my name(as I want some degree of privacy) but I would be okay with the other details.
                              Everyone can post whatever they feel like sharing about themselves.
                              What do you think ?
                              Definitely. Esp what area and Tribe we are from. That's the information Pashtuns traditionally share with one another when we meet other Pashtuns for the first time.
                              Originally posted by Kaushika

                              majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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