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thanks though i have not heard cap used for naswar apart from Bannu and Waziristan.Originally posted by Badlun View PostWe may not call the Bannu accent Our Language. I know cap is naswar or snuff but not only in Bannu,in many areas naswar is called cap."[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"
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Wow, so because you don't share my vision of a pashtun nation that does not believe in the apartheid notion of "the lighter you are, the more intelligent and good looking you are" you attempt to insult me by calling me a "brainwashed culturless paki". Go ahead and worship the same people who massacred our ancestors and pillaged our lands whilst at the same time insulting them and blaming all of our problems on them, that's fine with me. But I would much rather accept our problems as our own doing and seek ways of fixing them one of these is undoing the ridiculous elitism based on skin colour which is endemic all throughout Asiatic and African society. BTW, i am not the person you think I am.Originally posted by Khostai View Postlol yeah right, you are so transparent, killzai was the only branwashed western brat who thinks that the rest of the world bases their identity just on their skin color, a typical culturless paki who was born in the west.
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Really? I remember my dad telling me that "za mung wala jaba dai Jalalabad sa ra der lagei" (im srry if you cant understand what I have written, im still getting used to how Pashto words are spelt in english script). In your other points I agree with you though in order for pashtun nationalism to succeed we must make pashtuns feel more unified. I can also back up your last point on a recent visit to Peshawar, practically all the signs and names i saw of shops and such were in urdu, even shops owned by Pashtuns. Pashtuns in Pakistan have been taught to prize and cherish urdu so much so that they place it above their own language and make fun of peers who cant speak urdu (I have been a victim of this myself).Originally posted by Badlun View PostIn Pashto Linguistics,the term Dawarh dialect does not exist. Only we have hard dialect i.e. as in Peshawar and Jalalabad and soft dialect i.e. as in Kandahar or Quetta or Bannu . Rest are accents.
Pashtun nationalists must talk of Pashto as a unit and let the Linguists go into the nuances.
As in Pakistan Pashto does not have an official status,thats why Writing and Reading of Pashto is always neglected.
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So, because you don't like what im saying you try to discredit my claim to Dawar descent. No, I do not no what "cap" means I have never been able to speak the Bannu dialect and the last time I went to Mir Ali or Waziristan was when I was three. I will however do my best to convince you i am of Dawar descent. My dads family always respond with the same phrase when i try to speak to them in the Pekhawari dialect. Im hopping this phrase is familiar to you "raigha pashtai ghajaiga". Which means speak proper pashto. I also have many family who have relocated to bannu amongst them is my uncle who my father recently visited he described bannu on eid day, saying that everyone in Bannu had come to this tiny little park (i dont know if you live in bannu anymore but im hoping you know this scene from previous eid's). I also have various descriptions of Mir Ali which I have heard from my father but im guessing you wouldnt be familiar with Mir Ali.Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Posttrorzai da kho mizha akhpalwon ye.
sha gula bya ka ta dawar way,darta wo shaya che "cap" de mizha pa zhaba sha sashi ta waye?
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Jalalabad accent belongs to hard dialect like Peshawar. Dawars of Tank and DI Khan speak soft dialect similar to Kandahar.Originally posted by Dawar Faudzi View PostReally? I remember my dad telling me that "za mung wala jaba dai Jalalabad sa ra der lagei" (im srry if you cant understand what I have written, im still getting used to how Pashto words are spelt in english script). In your other points I agree with you though in order for pashtun nationalism to succeed we must make pashtuns feel more unified. I can also back up your last point on a recent visit to Peshawar, practically all the signs and names i saw of shops and such were in urdu, even shops owned by Pashtuns. Pashtuns in Pakistan have been taught to prize and cherish urdu so much so that they place it above their own language and make fun of peers who cant speak urdu (I have been a victim of this myself).
Pashto writing and reading is almost dead in Pakistan. Reason is that it has no official status in Pakistan. Pashto is facing tough competition and linguistic invasion from Persian and Urdu.
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Perhaps my dad was talking about the Pekhawari dialect at the time. I asked again and my Dad told me that the Bannu dialect is closest to parts of Balochistan and Afghanistan. In terms of its similarity amongst the four main Pashto dialects he told me it was closest to the Quetta dialect not Kandahar.
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