Happy Easter Good People!!!

[HalloIsBack]

Incorrect, centaur.

whatever
in your world centaur, in my world jigit

[Badlun]

Tuomi

Many many thanks for your first serious and a thought provoking post. Your approach towards Pashtuns is a balanced one. This is a realistic way to look at Pashtuns. They have many good and unique things but very bad things too. They are the world's largest tribal society but in their society individual has no say. Society or community or family decide every thing. Even boys do not have a right to select his own life partner forget about girls.

They live and die for honor but mostly their symbol of honor is woman. they are over protective of women. Even they protect their women from the eyes of each and every man excluding few like husband, father, son, brother . This is why Pashtun women do not have their own source of income and their lives are limited to bed and kitchen. Although the original Pashtun society there was no segregation. It was introduced by Islam.

Pashtuns are very brave but in this bravery they also kill their own brothers some times on a piece of land and some times for religion. Pashtuns are hospitable but their doors are also opened for evils like Osama. Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires but Afghanistan itself is also a graveyard. More than 95% Taliban are Pashtuns and Pashtuns are the most extremist religious group these days. In Pakistan the two main Islamist parties JUI and JI have Pashtun leaders. Raiwand is full of Pashtuns. We need Nobel prize holders not terrorists.

take care and we are in touch

[Tjanaparh]

whatever
in your world centaur, in my world jigit

Wow, you've learned Turkish too?

[HalloIsBack]

Wow, you've learned Turkish too?

no i just love caucasian people

[Tjanaparh]

no i just love caucasian people

They have their own words to say "udalec"
We use for example "Ktrich" or "Qaj Ari"

[HalloIsBack]

They have their own words to say "udalec"
We use for example "Ktrich" or "Qaj Ari"

udalec? something new for me
anyway thank you

[Tjanaparh]

udalec? something new for me
anyway thank you

Jigit or better Yigit means Udalec or Molodec in Russian. It's a word from Turkic languages (Turkmen, Kyrghyz...)

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Tuomi

Many many thanks for your first serious and a thought provoking post. Your approach towards Pashtuns is a balanced one. This is a realistic way to look at Pashtuns. They have many good and unique things but very bad things too. They are the world's largest tribal society but in their society individual has no say. Society or community or family decide every thing. Even boys do not have a right to select his own life partner forget about girls.

They live and die for honor but mostly their symbol of honor is woman. they are over protective of women. Even they protect their women from the eyes of each and every man excluding few like husband, father, son, brother . This is why Pashtun women do not have their own source of income and their lives are limited to bed and kitchen. Although the original Pashtun society there was no segregation. It was introduced by Islam.

Pashtuns are very brave but in this bravery they also kill their own brothers some times on a piece of land and some times for religion. Pashtuns are hospitable but their doors are also opened for evils like Osama. Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires but Afghanistan itself is also a graveyard. More than 95% Taliban are Pashtuns and Pashtuns are the most extremist religious group these days. In Pakistan the two main Islamist parties JUI and JI have Pashtun leaders. Raiwand is full of Pashtuns. We need Nobel prize holders not terrorists.

take care and we are in touch

Thanks a lot. Excellent post! I wasn't aware that even males were prevented from selecting their own bride. Certainly this can't be the case across the whole of Pashtun society (limited to certain tribes/regions maybe)? I think the lack of power that the individual possesses in determining her or his own destination in life is possibly the most disturbing characteristic of Pashtun society. I understand the importance and sometimes necessity of collectivism within any group of people but of course not in many of the particular ways that it's carried out within the framework of tribal Pashtun society. Lastly, I strongly commend you on your courage to speak so boldly about certain topics that many people would turn away from to avoid controversy.

Take care!

[Badlun]

Thanks a lot. Excellent post! I wasn't aware that even males were prevented from selecting their own bride. Certainly this can't be the case across the whole of Pashtun society (limited to certain tribes/regions maybe)? I think the lack of power that the individual possesses in determining her or his own destination in life is possibly the most disturbing characteristic of Pashtun society. I understand the importance and sometimes necessity of collectivism within any group of people but of course not in many of the particular ways that it's carried out within the framework of tribal Pashtun society. Lastly, I strongly commend you on your courage to speak so boldly about certain topics that many people would turn away from to avoid controversy.

Take care!

No choice in selecting one's bride or groom is almost every where in the whole Pashtunland. Even Pashtuns living abroad have to consult their families for their brides or grooms. one must strike a balance in individual, family, tribe and society.

I am not worried about controversies. We must reflect the reality as it is. If we avoid controversial themes, then no progress or improvement will take place. Pashtuns must face the challenges of the 21st century and may not wholly base their life system on some 1400 years old Sharia or thousands years old Pashtunwali.