Newbie! In need of some advice

[Old School Killiwal]

I know many Paktiawalls straight from Paktia who prefer Farsi.

Thats a moot point though. Yall need to step your game up. How does my district out bang your whole LOYA PAKTIA

Peace to Aziz Alemzay, but yall are weak, no one respects Paktias Gangsta

Rich and educated people don't count, and neither do Kabul-settled Paktiawals.I don't get the rest of your post.By the way, how do Kakars end up in Ghazni?

[khushal]

Khushal, that's a nice avatar of the Michauds' classic picture from their
travels in Afghanistan. For anyone who doesn't know,
Roland and Sabrina Michaud are a husband and wife team from France
who did, in my opinion, by FAR and away, the BEST photography in Afghanistan pre-Soviet war [and probably
ever after !]. They have an unrivaled feel for the people and the land.
No American photographer got anywhere near them.

They also did National Geographic articles on Hunza and environs, and
the Wakhi as well.

Im impressed you noticed where I got it from. I agree they do have great photography. I like their photography of buzkashi, the game on horses.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Rich and educated people don't count, and neither do Kabul-settled Paktiawals.I don't get the rest of your post.By the way, how do Kakars end up in Ghazni?

Ghazni Pakhtuns are 90% Ghiljai...Tarakai, Hotak, Tokhi, Andar, Kharoti, Wardag etc

I dont know how the Kakars ended up there. Either we rolled with the great Sultan or resisted him viciously and were transported back as slaves. No clue tho...

[khushal]

Any one who goes on tv has to put make up on. I understand youre a loser who doesnt know this, I forgive you

Lol @ this nonsense, why dont these Paktia fighters fight in Paktia?

They have to come to Andar to fight?




I know many Paktiawalls straight from Paktia who prefer Farsi.

Thats a moot point though. Yall need to step your game up. How does my district out bang your whole LOYA PAKTIA

Peace to Aziz Alemzay, but yall are weak, no one respects Paktias Gangsta

Paktika which is part of loya paktia has killed more foreigners than the whole of ghazni provence, forget the district. Most fighters from the whole of ghanzni are from loya paktia not to mention wazirs and masuds.

you want to take credit for paktiawals game.

[khushal]

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I know many Paktiawalls straight from Paktia who prefer Farsi.

Was it not paktiawals that deposed the farsiwan kala khan. All the tajiki paktiawals I know prefer pashto over farsi.

[khushal]

Not to mention Andar is a part of Loya Paktia.

Yes I know but your dealing with a blindly arrogant person.
watch for the insults as soon as he is realizing he is losing the debate.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Paktika which is part of loya paktia has killed more foreigners than the whole of ghazni provence, forget the district. Most fighters from the whole of ghanzni are from loya paktia not to mention wazirs and masuds.

you want to take credit for paktiawals game.

LOL once again why arent these brave paktia wals fighting in paktia?

and loya paktia is right on the border it should be a blood bath but its not. Ghazni is an 1.5 hr drive from the gates of Kabul and its killing season

Yes I know but your dealing with a blindly arrogant person.
watch for the insults as soon as he is realizing he is losing the debate.

No, I insult people before, during and after debates, and then for good measure I insult them in passing 3 months later

I really dont wanna have to crack my books to prove how stupid you sounded in that Mongol thread, but if Im gonna have a hyena licking at my feet for the next 2 months thread to thread, itll be worth it

[khushal]

LOL once again why arent these brave paktia wals fighting in paktia?

and loya paktia is right on the border it should be a blood bath but its not. Ghazni is an 1.5 hr drive from the gates of Kabul and its killing season

like I said paktika alone has killed more foreigners than the whole of ghazni forget the district.

No, I insult people before, during and after debates, and then for good measure I insult them in passing 3 months later

I really dont wanna have to crack my books to prove how stupid you sounded in that Mongol thread, but if Im gonna have a hyena licking at my feet for the next 2 months thread to thread, itll be worth it

spoken like a true khar

[amatullah]

I thought is very rude and unnecessary of a 'convert' to deeply question cultural background of her husband.
.

You think its rude that I want to put Islam first and question culture?
I have every right to question his culture i'm trying to understand it and it will be a part of my life and my childrens lives. And i'm not willing to accept any part of it that has no basis in Islam. So yes I will question EVERY culture unless it strictly follows Quran and Sunnah. And it certainly is necessary as I will be living there. Thank you for your advice.

[amatullah]

I will sincerely advise you to comprehend the sphere of influence of both Islam and Pashtunwali. Both are mutually exclusive.

Islam is just your religion which determines your supernatural beliefs in God, prophets, angels, hereafter then your modes of worship as salat, zakt, ramadan and hajj(the pillars of Islam) and your religious morality. Nothing more than that.
While Pashtunwali determines your culture , society and some aspects of politics.

Your dress is not determined by Islam. Islam and Arab culture or society are two different things. Wear the way you wish or according to the climate, society and situation. Be Pashtun by your habits, behaviour, character and be Muslim by your beliefs, worship and ethics.

Thanks for your advice but I would have to disagree. Islam is a way of life. Everything we do is determined by Quran and Sunnah. It was sent as thee last guidance from Allah and it is perfect, its all we need to lead a good life, we don't need any culture to follow, Islam replaces all of that. Quran and Sunnah advise in much more than just the five pilliars and morality...

[Michin Khel]

You think its rude that I want to put Islam first and question culture?
I have every right to question his culture i'm trying to understand it and it will be a part of my life and my childrens lives. And i'm not willing to accept any part of it that has no basis in Islam. So yes I will question EVERY culture unless it strictly follows Quran and Sunnah. And it certainly is necessary as I will be living there. Thank you for your advice.

No, you have no right to question flaws in his background infront of us. Go ask these questions from your husband directly.
You should have investigated these things before marrying him. Now you are asking stupid questions that why pashtuns are violent people, dont educate their women blah blah...i am sure your husband is educated, neither he is carrying gun , talking of revenge and other BS nor he has prevented his sisters from getting education.

[Badlun]

Thanks for your advice but I would have to disagree. Islam is a way of life. Everything we do is determined by Quran and Sunnah. It was sent as thee last guidance from Allah and it is perfect, its all we need to lead a good life, we don't need any culture to follow, Islam replaces all of that. Quran and Sunnah advise in much more than just the five pilliars and morality...

This is the approach of Taliban and all extremist Wahabi Salafi Muslims that every thing is determined by Islam and hence they challenge the thousands years old culture like Pashtunwali. These Taliban have destroyed the paradise on earth the enchanting valley of Swat and the whole Pashtunland.

How can one ignore culture and society which is not based on religion. Religion just determines your beliefs, modes of worship and ethics but nothing beyond that. How can you impose the Arab nomadic culture of desert on the green valley of Swat. Where in Quran God has imposed the Arab culture on Pashtuns in the name of Islam.

Read the holy Quran and you will only find injunctions on faith, worship and ethics but nothing on culture. All ethnic groups are free to follow whatever culture they have in their countries or areas.

Pashtuns are 7000 years old Pashtuns and 1400 years old Muslims. They are Muslims only religiously but not culturally.

[یاسمینه]

advice from a non-Pashtun. Try to understand the nature of Pashtun tribalism, its history rather than to question everything in advance.
I am also sure you have heard about Hanafi fiqh.

Forgive me my question - what's the point to enter into a Pashtun family if you are going to question their culture, tradition, heritage?

[khushal]

^^^^^
oh come on, she wants to understand it. If she is going to live in pashtunland, she needs to understand the pashtun culture. When I came to America, I was questioning the American culture. The idea of individuality was foreign to me and I never really understood it until I learrned the structure of the American society.

[khushal]

I will sincerely advise you to comprehend the sphere of influence of both Islam and Pashtunwali. Both are mutually exclusive.

Islam is just your religion which determines your supernatural beliefs in God, prophets, angels, hereafter then your modes of worship as salat, zakt, ramadan and hajj(the pillars of Islam) and your religious morality. Nothing more than that.
While Pashtunwali determines your culture , society and some aspects of politics.

Your dress is not determined by Islam. Islam and Arab culture or society are two different things. Wear the way you wish or according to the climate, society and situation. Be Pashtun by your habits, behaviour, character and be Muslim by your beliefs, worship and ethics.

define religion and define culture and explain how they are mutually exclusive because you are confused.