George XI of Kartli (Gurgin Khan)

[Nick]

Georgians and Azeris get along very well. Azeris mostly are living in rural region of Kvemo Kartli in Georgia, also in Tbilisi and other bigger towns. There are of course integration issues (in rural areas this is mostly language related, also Azeris do not participate very actively in political and social live of Georgia, but then again not even Georgians from rural areas are very active citizens ) For now there is a statewide action plan dealing with ethnic minority integration issues and it is more less successful. Also lots of NGO's in Georgia work on ethnic minority issues and hopefully long term effect of this actions will be very good.

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What's your say in regards to Georgia's russian minorities and the racial or ethnic wars. As you know Georgians are the hero in moscow as well as in Ukraine where they Gang has been active in downsizing the skinheads. As you know the kavgas people tried their best to create an organization like Georgians to push the skinheads back but russian police and bribery etc kavgas people lost. I was once told that in georgia they was an skinhead organization is that true? And what's your say skinheads backed by Russian politicians and their ideas of purify Russia and largely Moscow from Islam or other minorities?

[chedo]

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What's your say in regards to Georgia's russian minorities and the racial or ethnic wars. As you know Georgians are the hero in moscow as well as in Ukraine where they Gang has been active in downsizing the skinheads. As you know the kavgas people tried their best to create an organization like Georgians to push the skinheads back but russian police and bribery etc kavgas people lost. I was once told that in georgia they was an skinhead organization is that true? And what's your say skinheads backed by Russian politicians and their ideas of purify Russia and largely Moscow from Islam or other minorities?

I have not heard about Georgian skinheads, it is funny to imagine though )) otherwise Russians feel in Georgia fine, no one is bothering them

[Tjanaparh]

Actually Ossetians should be as more close t Pashtuns, if I know well the ossetian language is from the same family?! Actually there are some small languages in the Pamirr very related to Ossetian.

[zurab kapanadze]

hello from Georgia.
i am interested how does afghan historians and Afghan people review gurgin khans leadership in Afghanistan.

[HalloIsBack]

hello from Georgia.
i am interested how does afghan historians and Afghan people review gurgin khans leadership in Afghanistan.

oh gruzin privet
kak dela?
dobro pozhalovat' !

[giorgi XI]

hello im from georgia
i wanna know some facts about gurgis khan
are there anyone?

[Khilji]

hello im from georgia
i wanna know some facts about gurgis khan
are there anyone?

he was used by the safavids as servant to occupy afghanland like usa uses right now georgia to occupy afghanistan

[giorgi XI]

i want to know some facts. its difficult for me to say what is legend and what is really true. in every country people look at the same facts differently.
i have some questions and can you answer me?
in my country few people know about this king . in our history books it is only four-five sentences about him.( like he went in afghan and then he died) i think that his story is really intersting with good and bad sides.
i search some facts but i didnt find anything what afghan people or historians really think about him.
sorry for bad english

[AftonFitz]

Welcome aboard the forums, have a great stay here.

[giorgi XI]

in our country some people say that afghan has never been conquered before gurgin khan. is it true or false?
i read somewhere that he was cruel and he even rape afghan girls. i dont believe this (about rape) in that time georgia was also conquered, his mothers , sisters , daughters were taken captive . some were shahs wives some other khans wives and this was really tragedy for our country. because of this he cant harm another countries women. about cruelty i believe , he maybe was Makiaveli's style ruler. without this he cant hold afghan .
do your historians know where his tomb is? i know some story that there is a great monument dedicated to him. its true or false?

[Kushan Prince]

Gurgin was Nadir Shah's slave.

[Khilji]

in our country some people say that afghan has never been conquered before gurgin khan. is it true or false?
i read somewhere that he was cruel and he even rape afghan girls. i dont believe this (about rape) in that time georgia was also conquered, his mothers , sisters , daughters were taken captive . some were shahs wives some other khans wives and this was really tragedy for our country. because of this he cant harm another countries women. about cruelty i believe , he maybe was Makiaveli's style ruler. without this he cant hold afghan .
do your historians know where his tomb is? i know some story that there is a great monument dedicated to him. its true or false?

gurgin was like this soldiers here from georgia

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[Khilji]

Gurgin was Nadir Shah's slave.

safavids and gurgin was sendet back were they came from

[ډګروال]

Gurgin khan was an invader in the name of safawids and Mirwais Khan Hotak wacked him.
he was simply a dirty ****bag who got punished for his crimes.

[giorgi XI]

khilji why did you put this video? to dishonor georgian soldiers?
you know , gurgis khan took only 4500 soldier with him. they called themselves "sheficulebi" (man with oath). from birth they have oath to fight for king. each theirs families had unique style of fighting (which is lost nowadays). they were like black ops. they were strongest and bravest soldiers in persian empire. and these 4500 soldiier took afghan (before them persians were like sheeps) and hold this land until afghans assasinated gurgis during the feast (he was guest there ). i respect afghans because they fighting till the end and they release their motherland from strangers. but writing that georgian soldiers were cowards its something new for me. i read georgian, persian, english historians . i knew man who discuss about this with afghan old man and he said that in these time word "gurju" means "strong", "brave". after his death afghans not only release their country but they also took iran (respect them for this) . he was one of the powerful and strong man in persian empire and call him what you wish but no coward.
i came in this forum to read more about him. i thought there were also historians who knew real facts. i asked some questions and wish you aswered me not dishonor my people. but its your business i dont care think wahht you want.
i wish afghans only good. i wish freedom for you . i wish the world learned your culture and history . i know what is war, and wish you only peace.
thank you for "good" welcome.