where did the word "Pathan" came from

[shehram]

Is there any reference in this book?

The book at home
and i m too far now
and also exactly forget on which page it
kho doomra da che pa awal pages ke da
da Pukhtoon pa tareef ke leekalay da aw lande werta da Hafiz rehmat khan da kitab hawale werkarree dee

[Nick]

Dear Saifullah your explanation hummm well lol lets just say forget it...
Dear Jasmine the word Pathan did not derived from Path, and I see a lot internet BS, created to bad name Pathans for being thief and rappers.

Dear Shamaar your first and last points are not pertinent however your Second should be given a little more tension cause stories from ancient time’s records of Bathan. I mean there were lots of Afghans that Went to Media for Example Quis was famous but also father of Imam Al Azam, (Abu Hannifa) may he rest in peace. There is a possibility that being Pakhtrian was noted in old days and translated into Arabic Bathan.
Althought brother Levanaye Zalmaye and Emal Khan gave a different and a new version of how Indians came to be calling us Pathans.

Lets not forget that Pathan is an Indic-Muslim word, and not a Hindu word and it should be respected as it has applied by a different meaning, and that brings us to the story of Mohammad (PBUH) blessing us with that word. There are dozen languages that carries the word Pathan including Armenian and it all different meanings but one of the meaning points to brother Shehram's visual explanation of Keel=Batan in Arabic is very important part and initial step in construction of a ship, and very important in terms of keeping the Ship/boat going and proventing from falling or tipping.

The Fact that it was from Afghanistan that Islam went into India and it was these afghans that actually completed Mohammad (PBUH) prophecy of what it meant by "Keel" or Bathan.

[Wrayun]

The word Pathan was and is used by various Afghan/Pukhtoon descendants that ruled India from ancient times. It was used by various clans belonging to the Suris and Lodhis. It was borrowed from the original story of Qais (Makhzan-i-Afghani) who met the Prophet, and received this title. Pukhtoons of India who lost their mother tongue used this word 1. to associate themselves with Afghans 2. to see themselves as legitimate Islamic expansionists after the Delhi Sultanate.

Today Pathan is a high caste in India, equivalent to Sayyid and Brahmin. It has no derogatory overtones. Only in Pakistan, Pathan has been made to be a joke. While in India it is a title of esteem.

[ijaz yousafzai]

Another theory regarding the name, " Pathan", says that at the time of Hameed Lodhi and Behlol Lodhi, many Pakhtun families migrated to India from Roh in search of subsistence and most of them settled in the Indian city of " Patna". The local Indians, therefore referred to them as " Pathan", the people settled in Patna.The noted Pashtuns,General Bakht Khan and Hafiz Remat Khan led Pashtuns in Rohilkand and they were called Rohilas, poeple from " Roh".Hafiz Rehmat Khan compiled his acclaimed history, " Twareekh-i- Hafiz Remat Khani", which has endorsed "MAkhzan-i- Afghani" of Khwaja Naimatullah Harvee.

[Bengal_Tiger]

The word Pathan was and is used by various Afghan/Pukhtoon descendants that ruled India from ancient times. It was used by various clans belonging to the Suris and Lodhis. It was borrowed from the original story of Qais (Makhzan-i-Afghani) who met the Prophet, and received this title. Pukhtoons of India who lost their mother tongue used this word 1. to associate themselves with Afghans 2. to see themselves as legitimate Islamic expansionists after the Delhi Sultanate.

Today Pathan is a high caste in India, equivalent to Sayyid and Brahmin. It has no derogatory overtones. Only in Pakistan, Pathan has been made to be a joke. While in India it is a title of esteem.

Correct.

In India the term Pathan is used in a respectful way, and actors like Salman Khan, Saif Ali Khan and others all take pride in their "Pathan" ancestry.

Another well known Indian Muslim community is Pathan. The Pathans are Muslims who arrived from Afghanistan to India. The Pathans put their surname as Khan. They are regarded as brave, honest and righteous.

http://www.culturalindia.net/indian-...ons/islam.html

The same in Bangladesh.

However in Bangladesh the shalwaar khameez is called the "Punjabi", whereas in India it is called the "Pathan" suit.

In Pakistan however it is a different story, I have met many Punjabis who use Pathan in a respectful way viewing Pakhtoons as noble, religious and tough people. However there are also those who use it in a derogatory way.

"Yaa Pathan....Ya Khan Saheb"

This is in the context of a "Pathan" (Pakhtoon) as figure of fun, with limited intelligence.

I can understand why Pakistani Pakhtoons would object to the word "Pathan", but it is not wholly offensive as some may think.

One of my friends in Bangladesh who is descended from Usman Khan Afghan is from a village (hamlet/homestead to be more accurate) which is called "Pathan bari" (Pathan village).

Some Bangladeshis even have the surname Pathan.

http://www.iutoic-dhaka.edu/facultie..._mukaddim.html

http://faculty.bracu.ac.bd/~spathan/

As in India, with the cricketer Irfan Pathan.





Other Bangladeshis have the surname Khan....but Khan can indicate either Pakhtoon lineage or Turkish lineage.



Dr Irene Khan from Bangladesh, current head of Amnesty International. The Khan surname indicates either Pashtun or Turkish ancestry.

[zai]

pathan means to destroy sombody respect

pathan is a sansecrit word, which was given to pashtun invaders by indian. path means to destroy or injure and 'an' means respect or status.

[Admin Khan]

pathan is a sansecrit word, which was given to pashtun invaders by indian. path means to destroy or injure and 'an' means respect or status.

Zai Jaan,
do you have a source for that?

[pukhtana]

pathan is a sansecrit word, which was given to pashtun invaders by indian. path means to destroy or injure and 'an' means respect or status.

I heard the opposite. I heard its a sanskript word that means woman kidnapper.

[Wrayun]

It might me a high caste in India but in Pakistan its used more in a derogatory why. Wrayun why dont you just admit that we would rather be called Pashtun?

heratigirl, I never objected to anything. You can call yourself whatever you please. The argument for Pukhtoon/Pashtun is a reasonable one and I don't disagree. I was just addressing the subject matter.

pa drunwale

[Manzareh]

In 652 AD after entering hind with the Arabs in conquest of India, The Pashtuns first settled at Patna. Pat'an in the language of Patna means to "root out, to annihilate, to expel" This race therefore was called Pathan i.e. (or patanr) who expelled the original inhabitants of Patna


The Word Pushtun is derived from a place 'pushth' in Ghor Afghanistan where Qais first settled. His off springs were later called Pushtun with reference to pushth



The word Pathan is not derogetory word, the punjbis/indians use it alot of the time as they pronounce it easier than 'pakhtoon', they have difficulty saying "khaa" "ghaa" its like calling an australian an 'ozzy' or an american a 'yank' nothing bad about what so ever. INFACT many indians and punjabis have respected the word pathan so much that MANY have changed their surnames to Pathan. the word Khan is respected in the Indic regions and Pathan and Khan go hand in hand in respective terms.

[pukhtana]

Manzareh so people like Zaheer Khan of Indian cricket team are actually Pashtun or do they have it because they want to to be part of our culture and history?

[Manzareh]

i never said they are or claim they/he are pashtun for you to presume thats what i meant or intended, i said they respect the name Khan as much as they respect the word Pathan.

[fzpz]

It's not as straight forward as people would like to believe. Khan as a last name does NOT automatically mean pashtun ancestry or decent. If this was the case then Genghis Khan would be a pashtun. It's just a title given to people in the middle ages in Central and South Asia. New converts from reputable background to Islam in South Asia usually took on the name of Khan. That's is the reason you see Khan in the Potohar region, Gilgit-Baltistan, Kashmir, Punjab, and as far as Bengal even though they have no pashtun/outsider blood in them. It was common to assume the identity of the people that conquered you back in that time. Similar is the case with the last name of pathan or even the Syeds. Upper case converts ended up mingling with or assuming the identity of Syeds.

[Michin Khel]

When pashtuns arrived in india, they were called ''uloo ka patha'' by locals. With time the term reduced to patha which further modified to pathan.

[Yousafzai Pakhtun]

A famous historian "Roshan Khan" writes that when Afghans attacked Hindustan, most of them belonged to "Betani" tribe of pukhtuns at that time.......Betani is the 3rd largest tribe of pukhtuns and Lodhi, Suri, Khilji & Sarwani are other branches of Betani...Hindustanis called them Betans which later on became Pathan......Khushal Baba in "Dastar Naama" writes that the word Pathan was actually Batan, Sultan Mahmood Ghaznavi used this word for Pukhtuns.....